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SBG Interest Thread: FC Track-Day Big Brake Kit

We are posting this thread at the request of a few FC owners to see if there is interest in producing an FC version of our FD Track-Day Big Brake kit. Utilizing many of the same components from our AP Competition Big Brake Kit, our Wilwood based brake kit uses the same pads and rotor size, but at nearly HALF the cost. The rotors can be upgraded to AP Rotors at a later date as the hat is the same.

Regarding the FC kit, if we can get 20 people on board, we can make FC specific brackets. Price for the brake kit will be the same as the FD at $1600, however first-time introductory pricing would bring the base kit down to $1275 + shipping!!! We dare you to find another track worthy BBK for a similar price . This kit will only happen with enough people on board (and PAID). As many of the components are shared with the FD brake kit, we could potentially turn this kit around in a few weeks after close.

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Building on the success of our AP Competition Brake System, we produced this brake kit, with the intention of bringing race-inspired engineering to the broader motorsports market. Utilizing many of the specifications of our AP kit, we have designed what is in essence, a light-competition brake system, employing high-end track & street components. The result is a system which provides incredible performance for cost, accessible to the broader driving enthusiast market, which can be easily upgraded to race-performance components if you choose.



Forged Superlight Calipers use the same 20mm Brake Pads that our AP kit uses. These not only add additional thermal barrier between the rotor and caliper, but will also last longer than a standard competition brake pad. Many other calipers use pads that are 12-17mm’s thick resulting in reduced thermal insulation (potentially more brake fluid boiling), and significantly increased pad replacement intervals. In essence you're getting more brake pad material for the same cost of a set of brake pads. Thanks to using a very common pad shape, replacing pads will also be significantly cheaper and easier to source.





Our SBG Premium Brake Rotors have been designed to provide the highest possible performance for cost. Our design utilizes race-inspired directional veins, which drastically increases air flow compared to a stock, straight vein rotor. Our proprietary slot design improves the responsiveness of braking, with better bite, and prevents excessive brake dust build up, keeping brake components clean and improving mechanical engagement. Optionally this kit is offered with an upgrade to AP Racing Floating Rotors for extreme track use.





This is the perfect package for customers looking for the maximum bang for their buck when it comes to brake performance.

Our Package Includes:

• Wilwood Forged Superlight Calipers
• 6061 Billet Caliper Mounting Brackets
• SBG 325x32mm Solid Mount Premium Brake Rotors or Optional 325x32 Floating AP Rotors
• SBG Designed 2024 T351 Aluminum Rotor Hats
• DOT Approved Stainless Steel Brake Lines with dirt/abrasion sleeves
• Full Pictorial Installation Guide


For more details, view the product page, HERE!


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So this is a front kit only? How do the piston area, pad area, and effective radius compare with stock? Ive tried a few big brake kits only to end up with a heavily front bias system which cant really be fixed easily. If you're going to call it a track-day kit this is highly pertinent information.

The closest ive gotten to stock F:R bias with a big brake kit in the front required much larger rotors in the back, even larger radius than in front. Still was more front bias than stock.
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So this is a front kit only? How do the piston area, pad area, and effective radius compare with stock? Ive tried a few big brake kits only to end up with a heavily front bias system which cant really be fixed easily. If you're going to call it a track-day kit this is highly pertinent information.

The closest ive gotten to stock F:R bias with a big brake kit in the front required much larger rotors in the back, even larger radius than in front. Still was more front bias than stock.
We have three piston sizes to choose from so bias wise we can match stock as well as increase front bias to pair with something like our existing FD rear competition brake kit. If there's interest in the front kit, we'll re-work our mounting brackets for our FD rear to make an FC version... price would be the same as our FD competition rear kit at $995 GB (which relocates the stock brake caliper further radially outward). If there is FURTHER interest we can always make a matching rear kit with 4 pot calipers, which would end up at the same cost as the front kit, however... that's REALLY putting the horse before the cart because from previous experience trying to sell performance parts in the FC market, most attempts to make performance parts for the FC have been flops or luke warm simply because no one wants to pay.

So, long story short the engineering side of things is very easy for us.... getting FC people to buy in numbers (and actually follow through with paying) is the tricky bit here
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Don't i know it. Because i end up having to buy one-offs for all of this kinda stuff.
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how much for shipping to australia? post code 6018
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I need a kit for all 4 corners of my cosmo....
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how much for shipping to australia? post code 6018
Shipping to Australia is pricey. We've been working with Ricshaw Racing, if you're familiar with them. I would contact them about importing a set as we can send them with other kits sea freight for MUCH cheaper. Shipping them air mail would be around 350-400.


At this point though, we need more interest to even get this off the ground. The FD kits sold 15 sets in a couple weeks and are still going strong. RX8 and FC there's just not much interest so it's up to you guys really. We won't make something no one will buy.

Sign up and put your hat in the ring you guys. If people want performance parts development for their chassis to continue you've got to buy parts, otherwise the chassis and support for it dies.
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Are we out of interest in this setup? This happened with the fire extinguisher mount, the EWP kit, the coil kit, and other parts that halfway made their way to the surface for the FC... there just weren't enough people total that wanted the parts so they fell by the wayside. At this rate we'll have a low mileage T2 motor with amazing compression, a 1991 vert, and a huge pile of pristine stock parts to sell off in very short order
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I'm surprised there's not some more interest in this? This appears to be a fantastic brake upgrade at a incredible price! Heath don't sell the FC just yet!
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Are we out of interest in this setup? This happened with the fire extinguisher mount, the EWP kit, the coil kit, and other parts that halfway made their way to the surface for the FC... there just weren't enough people total that wanted the parts so they fell by the wayside. At this rate we'll have a low mileage T2 motor with amazing compression, a 1991 vert, and a huge pile of pristine stock parts to sell off in very short order
Maybe there are not nearly enough FCs running in comparison to FDs, maybe FD owners have better paying jobs than FC owners, or maybe FC owners are more DIYer than FD owners?

My reality is this, out of all of your intended products for the FC community, the big brake package (including a setup for the rears) is the only one that has caught my attention, unfortunately, it is truly out of my price range at this point in time.
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The brakes I've been waiting for all these years... and I don't have an FC anymore.

The AP kit is what I'm eyeing now...
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I now have (relatively) stable full time job and I should be able to cough up for a few items now if you are still doing any of these!
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I now have (relatively) stable full time job and I should be able to cough up for a few items now if you are still doing any of these!
Please add your name to the list... if we hit 10 committed people we can produce this brake kit for you guys

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keep em comin boys! At this rate we'll have a brake kit available by the official release of the new RX7
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It sure is interesting. But I have to wait a wile before I could even look at a big brake kit.

Do these fit 17" wheels?
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It sure is interesting. But I have to wait a wile before I could even look at a big brake kit.

Do these fit 17" wheels?
Yes min 17" wheels
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Cool, I might be interested, but not sure when I'm able to buy. New wheels first, and new brakes.
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How much space between rim and the disc and or hub is required? Just had to ditche my evo 8 brake setup since it take up over one inche to much of space :-/
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