General Rotary Tech Support Use this forum for tech questions not specific to a certain model year

Detune a rotary? Rotary hybrid?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-23-02, 05:05 PM
  #1  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
Sammymatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Wayward Hayward
Posts: 735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question Detune a rotary? Rotary hybrid?

Hi,
did some searching but I couldn't find anything, sorry if I'm reasking!

I would like to DETUNE a rotary engie!

Don't throw things at me please. But I actualy saw a hybrid electric car in a mag and they used a rotary engine that was detuned to generate electricity. I believe they said it had like 40hp? But I can't quite remember.... But supposedly the engine got much better mileage as well as cleaner emmisions.

I would think just burning less fuel and less air by keeping RPMs down would be an obvious way to start. Is it really that simple? Or is there more that could be done?

I'm still learning but I love the rotary engine and think it would be great to make a rotary hybrid car. The engine is gonna be the easy part, I'm shaking in my boots when it comes to the electronics.
Old 08-23-02, 07:43 PM
  #2  
Old [Sch|F]ool

 
peejay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Posts: 12,506
Received 414 Likes on 295 Posts
The engine was probably significantly smaller than the engines we have. Engines are most efficient when they run at full load. You gain even more efficiency if you tune everything to work in a narrow RPM range and keep the engine there. With CVTs, or using an engine to drive a generator (which is like having a CVT) you can do that.

I bet that engine was fairly small (like maybe 1/4 the size of a 13B?) and operated in a very narrow RPM range.
Old 08-27-02, 06:59 PM
  #3  
Lives on the Forum

 
RETed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: n
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 15 Posts
Originally posted by peejay
Engines are most efficient when they run at full load.
Unless my definitions of "efficient" and "full load" are different, I don't think this is true.&nbsp By definition, "most efficient" is typically peak torque.&nbsp Oddly enough, Mazda has tuned most of the rotary engines to be efficient between 3000RPM and 4000RPM, coincidently where most of the peak torque specs are.&nbsp There is also documentation (SAE papers) that show proof that intake manifold design was specifically targetted to this narrow RPM region...


-Ted
Old 08-28-02, 12:53 PM
  #4  
Old [Sch|F]ool

 
peejay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Posts: 12,506
Received 414 Likes on 295 Posts
RPM notwithstanding, engines are more efficient when they are unthrottled.

Now, if you size the engine so peak torque (at full throttle of course) coincides with normal load, then you'd really have something.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
datfast1
Old School and Other Rotary
18
06-20-19 10:53 PM
Under PSI
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
19
09-23-15 11:47 PM
datfast1
West RX-7 Forum
3
09-14-15 06:58 PM
andyvideopro
SE RX-7 Forum
0
09-05-15 06:56 PM
befarrer
Single Turbo RX-7's
1
09-04-15 08:26 PM



Quick Reply: Detune a rotary? Rotary hybrid?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:07 PM.