B2600 Bell fit TII Trans?
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B2600 Bell fit TII Trans?
Will the B2600 bell housing fit the TII trans? I know the two are supposed to be pretty much the same trans, but I just wanted to make sure...
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Originally Posted by N1XRR
The short answer is no, without major modification. The TII's did not have a removable bellhousing.
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Funny thing is I have a B2600...
Tell me, does the Turbo II tranny have a removable cover plate on the bottom, rectuangular shaped, about the size of a very large dictionary type book?
I also believe they are the same tranny. I know some of the B2000/2200 guys swap in RX-7 trannies for better gear ratios. But those are all N/A Model M (Type II) trannies...
2600 and Turbo Rotary are Model R (Type III) trannies...
I wager yes, although I'd like confirmation, as I'm doing homework to put a Turbo rotary in my truck.
Tell me, does the Turbo II tranny have a removable cover plate on the bottom, rectuangular shaped, about the size of a very large dictionary type book?
I also believe they are the same tranny. I know some of the B2000/2200 guys swap in RX-7 trannies for better gear ratios. But those are all N/A Model M (Type II) trannies...
2600 and Turbo Rotary are Model R (Type III) trannies...
I wager yes, although I'd like confirmation, as I'm doing homework to put a Turbo rotary in my truck.
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Originally Posted by N1XRR
The short answer is no, without major modification. The TII's did not have a removable bellhousing.
It should be as both the B2600 and the turbos share the same model 'R' trans. This actually includes the FD trans as well. The reason is the the 87/88 B2600 had a Mits 2.6. 4G63+B2600 bell+Turbo trans= A nice RWD 4G63 application
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Originally Posted by 13btnos
Please don't make any comments if you don't have experience with them. The TurboII's transmission bellhousing is removeable, atleast all the ones I have removed are, just like the early RX4 and Cosmo, 4 and 5 speed respectively, transmissions. The N/A transmissions are not removeable. Hope this clears things up for you. But adapting the B2600 bellhousing I wouldn't know. You use the bellhousing from a turboII to use on an adapter like Kennedy enginneering to a VW transaxle or a Gforce transmission and even a Liberty transmission all utilize a turboII bellhousing.
Maybe some came removable? But, the handful I've worked on have most definetly been non-removable.
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http://www.mazdatrix.com/g1.htm All the early "ribcase" transmissions and the turbo transmissions which are ribcased also have a removable bellhousing. If it is a smooth case then the bellhousing would be integrated to the body of the transmission and there fore it is not a turbo transmission. All N/A transmissions from 1979 to 1992 have the non-removable bellhousing. I've been doing this for over 10 years and every ribcased transmission I have dealt with has had a removeable bellhousing. This is what I mean by ribcase transmission there are like 6 bolts on the inside of the bellhousing that separate it from the transmission.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
http://www.3rdgenrx7.com/images/transmission.jpg
And this is a N/A transmission
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
http://www.3rdgenrx7.com/images/transmission.jpg
And this is a N/A transmission
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
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The Mitsu 2.6 liter is considered to be a "wide" block mitsu model. The 4G63, 4G64, and G4CS engines are all "narrow" block models. The wide block models will work with Starion bellhousings. The mitsu 2.0 truck is a narrow block engine, and the trannies in the 2.0 trucks bolt right to the Eclipse engines. An eclipse engine will bolt right into a 2.0 litre mitsu truck using the same motor mounts. I have yet to find a manual trans for a narrow block mitsu engine that has a removable bellhousing.
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Originally Posted by Doc Holiday
The Mitsu 2.6 liter is considered to be a "wide" block mitsu model. The 4G63, 4G64, and G4CS engines are all "narrow" block models. The wide block models will work with Starion bellhousings. The mitsu 2.0 truck is a narrow block engine, and the trannies in the 2.0 trucks bolt right to the Eclipse engines. An eclipse engine will bolt right into a 2.0 litre mitsu truck using the same motor mounts. I have yet to find a manual trans for a narrow block mitsu engine that has a removable bellhousing.
The 87-88 B2600's used a Carbureted 2.6L Mistubishi engine.
The 89-93 B2600i's used a Fuel Injected 2.6L Mazda engine. No other changes. Mazda tranny all years.
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Originally Posted by Doc Holiday
The Mitsu 2.6 liter is considered to be a "wide" block mitsu model. The 4G63, 4G64, and G4CS engines are all "narrow" block models. The wide block models will work with Starion bellhousings. The mitsu 2.0 truck is a narrow block engine, and the trannies in the 2.0 trucks bolt right to the Eclipse engines. An eclipse engine will bolt right into a 2.0 litre mitsu truck using the same motor mounts. I have yet to find a manual trans for a narrow block mitsu engine that has a removable bellhousing.
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Originally Posted by Pele
The Starion to B2600 Truck swap is theoretically possible. Nobody on the Mazda truck forum has documented it though. Good way to get a strong turbo engine.
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