Water instead of ATF for decarboning
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Who gives a ssshht guys. Back to the mane topic of water treatment. I tried it in my REPU which as an engine with less than 10k on it and it did not blow up. I couldn't realy tell much of a difference and my exhaust did not seem to get any hotter. then I tried it on my rx-3 sp which I just bought and I think has a lot of carbon in it, did not blow up and I think it runs a little smoother. My advice is that it doesn't hurt to try somthing new and it's easy. Mabey do the h20 treatment every oil change or somthing. I understand both of your points. And this is to the honda guy, I have built a few of these rotary engines and know how to port them street and peripheral adn consider my self pretty knowledgable and I see crap posts on here all the time by people that are not informaed and have never even seen the inside of a rotary and my advice to you is that to them they THINK they know what they are talking about. You just need to take it all in stride and understand that there is more good that comes out of the forum than bad. Any ways I hope we all learned one important thing from this thread and that is water does offer cheap fast engine cleaning although it might not be perfect does definitaly help.
CJG
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From: lebanon
Originally posted by Rotortuner
Who gives a ssshht guys. Back to the mane topic of water treatment. I tried it in my REPU which as an engine with less than 10k on it and it did not blow up. I couldn't realy tell much of a difference and my exhaust did not seem to get any hotter. then I tried it on my rx-3 sp which I just bought and I think has a lot of carbon in it, did not blow up and I think it runs a little smoother. My advice is that it doesn't hurt to try somthing new and it's easy. Mabey do the h20 treatment every oil change or somthing. I understand both of your points. And this is to the honda guy, I have built a few of these rotary engines and know how to port them street and peripheral adn consider my self pretty knowledgable and I see crap posts on here all the time by people that are not informaed and have never even seen the inside of a rotary and my advice to you is that to them they THINK they know what they are talking about. You just need to take it all in stride and understand that there is more good that comes out of the forum than bad. Any ways I hope we all learned one important thing from this thread and that is water does offer cheap fast engine cleaning although it might not be perfect does definitaly help.
CJG
Who gives a ssshht guys. Back to the mane topic of water treatment. I tried it in my REPU which as an engine with less than 10k on it and it did not blow up. I couldn't realy tell much of a difference and my exhaust did not seem to get any hotter. then I tried it on my rx-3 sp which I just bought and I think has a lot of carbon in it, did not blow up and I think it runs a little smoother. My advice is that it doesn't hurt to try somthing new and it's easy. Mabey do the h20 treatment every oil change or somthing. I understand both of your points. And this is to the honda guy, I have built a few of these rotary engines and know how to port them street and peripheral adn consider my self pretty knowledgable and I see crap posts on here all the time by people that are not informaed and have never even seen the inside of a rotary and my advice to you is that to them they THINK they know what they are talking about. You just need to take it all in stride and understand that there is more good that comes out of the forum than bad. Any ways I hope we all learned one important thing from this thread and that is water does offer cheap fast engine cleaning although it might not be perfect does definitaly help.
CJG
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ATF works better than water IMO because the engine needs to be running for water to work. You can't buy a "dead" engine from the junkyard for $100, soak the insides with WATER for several days, and expect it to de-clog the seal grooves so that the engine will run. Nope, you use ATF to soak the engine.
Also IMO, you shouldn't need to ATF an engine that already runs... it is my inderstanding that it is a method of deflooding engines or freeing stuck seals to bring "dead" engines back to life. Of course the whole idea is to keep it from happening in the first place... which means try to get more highway driving than city, keep your ignition system in good condition, don't run too rich, and (this is again IMO) eliminate the OMP and use premix exclusively... motor oil isn't designed to burn cleanly, while premix oil is. "What about boingers that burn oil..?" They carbon up too, you should see some of the nasty carbon that you have to remove from an oil-burning piston engine, even one that burns less oil than a rotary does normally. Audi has a deflood procedure for the 1.8t that is suspisciously like what us FC owners have known for years... why do they flood? According to the TSB, carbon lodges the piston rings away from the cylinder. Why do they carbon up... they suck oil.
I've noticed my engine runs worse after I try decarbonizing with water or carb cleaner, and it runs better if I dump a lil' MMO in the gas tank, about a 300:1 ratio with the gasoline.
Also IMO, you shouldn't need to ATF an engine that already runs... it is my inderstanding that it is a method of deflooding engines or freeing stuck seals to bring "dead" engines back to life. Of course the whole idea is to keep it from happening in the first place... which means try to get more highway driving than city, keep your ignition system in good condition, don't run too rich, and (this is again IMO) eliminate the OMP and use premix exclusively... motor oil isn't designed to burn cleanly, while premix oil is. "What about boingers that burn oil..?" They carbon up too, you should see some of the nasty carbon that you have to remove from an oil-burning piston engine, even one that burns less oil than a rotary does normally. Audi has a deflood procedure for the 1.8t that is suspisciously like what us FC owners have known for years... why do they flood? According to the TSB, carbon lodges the piston rings away from the cylinder. Why do they carbon up... they suck oil.
I've noticed my engine runs worse after I try decarbonizing with water or carb cleaner, and it runs better if I dump a lil' MMO in the gas tank, about a 300:1 ratio with the gasoline.
