JIC coilovers and dented hoods...
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JIC coilovers and dented hoods...
Well,
I really love the JIC-FLT2 coilovers. The only problem is that the rebound adjustment stalk is just alittle too high in the front.
It never dented my hood, but I would see it rub on my hood liner. Then today during a oil change (yes I usually change my own oil but since moving I don't have a garage
), the mechanic let the hood "drop" close.
When I got home I noticed a small dent on the hood
dammit!
To those with the new JIC just be careful and close the hood and then push it close. Maybe the next time I have it off there could be a way to put some padding or rubber just to space the coilover....
I really love the JIC-FLT2 coilovers. The only problem is that the rebound adjustment stalk is just alittle too high in the front.
It never dented my hood, but I would see it rub on my hood liner. Then today during a oil change (yes I usually change my own oil but since moving I don't have a garage
), the mechanic let the hood "drop" close.When I got home I noticed a small dent on the hood
dammit!To those with the new JIC just be careful and close the hood and then push it close. Maybe the next time I have it off there could be a way to put some padding or rubber just to space the coilover....
Ouch. If it is just a hair more room you need add a couple washers between the top of the strut mount and the shock tower. This will give you a little more space between the hood and the stem.
I have a picture taken from inside the engine bay (I have that dubious luxury, at the moment) of the clearance of my JICs to my hood. I'll dig it up when I get home tonight and see if I can't post it.
I noticed that they're very tall also, but planned on putting rubber caps on top of them to protect the hood However, absolutely no one touches my car, nor do I ever drop my hood closed.
I noticed that they're very tall also, but planned on putting rubber caps on top of them to protect the hood However, absolutely no one touches my car, nor do I ever drop my hood closed.
BTW, while we're on the subject of the JICs... Rishie, do you know if there are replacement coils available in different spring rates, or if "standard" Eibach coils (for coil-overs) will work as replacements?
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Jim,
if you still have your stock hood liner, and you put rubber caps on it; I think it will hit.
Like I said mine never dented the hood before, but I would see it rub the liner.
I think that the yahoo of a mechanic, when he slammed the hood, caused it to go down the extra 2-3mm to cause the dent...it really is small but dammit!
if you still have your stock hood liner, and you put rubber caps on it; I think it will hit.
Like I said mine never dented the hood before, but I would see it rub the liner.
I think that the yahoo of a mechanic, when he slammed the hood, caused it to go down the extra 2-3mm to cause the dent...it really is small but dammit!
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Originally posted by jimlab
do you know if there are replacement coils available in different spring rates
do you know if there are replacement coils available in different spring rates
About the dented hood problem. I also have the JIC Flt-A2's on my car. I noticed that the adjustment **** rubs on my liner. I also let my hood down, gently, until it latches and then push it down with my hand. So far no dents (knock on wood). I don't particularly care for the fact that there is a potential to dent my hood. However, I do really like the way the car handles now.
- Cody
OK, maybe it rubs on the liner (I haven't re-checked the clearance since I put a new liner on the hood, but it's untouched so far) but it sure looks like there's plenty of clearance on my car...
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Jim like I said before mine didn't hit...but say you take into account the reduced clearance that you could get by compressing the rubber liner around the engine bay say from dropping the hood closed???!?!!
I think that's where it hits....its just really close
I think that's where it hits....its just really close
Originally posted by 7racer
Jim like I said before mine didn't hit...but say you take into account the reduced clearance that you could get by compressing the rubber liner around the engine bay say from dropping the hood closed???!?!!
I think that's where it hits....its just really close
Jim like I said before mine didn't hit...but say you take into account the reduced clearance that you could get by compressing the rubber liner around the engine bay say from dropping the hood closed???!?!!
I think that's where it hits....its just really close
Maybe I'll have to take another picture now that the liner is installed and use a tape measure.
Originally posted by 7racer
Nice pic BTW!!
Hurry up and finish that beast will ya
Nice pic BTW!!
Hurry up and finish that beast will ya
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Jim, I'll try tomorrow to measure the distance from the top of the rebound adjustment **** to the base of the fender body,
at least that way...that may be the same...then the difference would have to be the fit of the hood and liner
at least that way...that may be the same...then the difference would have to be the fit of the hood and liner
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I will look at the FD we're doing at the shop in the morning. Regardless I will relay this again to JIC.
Rishie
You can use ERS or any spring with the same diameter. In fact a friend of mine in Japan suggests that the Eibachs are superior to most spring manufacturers. They will take HKS springs off and use ERS.
Rishie
You can use ERS or any spring with the same diameter. In fact a friend of mine in Japan suggests that the Eibachs are superior to most spring manufacturers. They will take HKS springs off and use ERS.
Originally posted by jimlab
Thanks Rishie. Do you happen to know what the "standard" spring rates are for the JIC coilovers for a reference point?
Thanks Rishie. Do you happen to know what the "standard" spring rates are for the JIC coilovers for a reference point?
regards
fabian
ps....when i installed the flta2's, i thought for sure they were gonna touch the hood. they haven't, but i suspect it's pretty close. i would avoid the washer spacer idea since that interface is where the "weight" of that corner transfers onto the chassis. by using washers you'd be lessening the surface area to the size of the three washers. probably ok on the street, but i wouldn't do that kinda thing on my track car.
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Originally posted by foko
i believe the JIC recommended spring rate is 12kg/mm front and 9 kg/mm rear on the FLTA2.
i believe the JIC recommended spring rate is 12kg/mm front and 9 kg/mm rear on the FLTA2.

- Cody
JIC owners:
A little off topic, but what has been your experience w/ the height adjustment? Are you able to adjust ride height without removing the shock from its lower mount to turn the threads?
A little off topic, but what has been your experience w/ the height adjustment? Are you able to adjust ride height without removing the shock from its lower mount to turn the threads?
I just double-checked and the adjustment posts on my coilovers are VERY close to the hood liner. I had no idea that the hoodliner sat so much lower in that area. If it didn't already have indents for the area over the shock, they'd be piercing it. What the hell? 
I will still put rubber caps over them. I figure a "softer", more rounded surface is better than a hard edge. Hopefully it'll keep them from chewing up my brand new hood liner... if my car ever moves under its own power again...

I will still put rubber caps over them. I figure a "softer", more rounded surface is better than a hard edge. Hopefully it'll keep them from chewing up my brand new hood liner... if my car ever moves under its own power again...
Originally posted by VTAOE
I can confirm that 12 kg/mm front and 9 kg/mm is what JIC is using right now. It even says it on the empty JIC box in my living room.
I can confirm that 12 kg/mm front and 9 kg/mm is what JIC is using right now. It even says it on the empty JIC box in my living room.

Is it as simple as 9 kg/mm = 228.6 kg/in. = 504 lbs./in.? That would mean the 12kg/mm springs were 304.8 kg/in. or 672 lbs./in.
672/504??? If that's true, then JESUS those are STIFF springs. I don't need that much spring, let alone WANT that much spring with 19s...

Max, what would you recommend for a street going car? I saw your post on the 450/350 combination in the M2 coilover thread.





