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My 10th AE has red injectors! should they be purple?

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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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My 10th AE had red injectors! should they be purple?

Yeah so anyway I read this today, from the FAQ and...

What size injectors does my RX-7 use? What colour are they?
Year Engine Plug Size Colour Part #
84-85 13B NA, low square center, 680cc, orange, 195500-0900
86-87 13B NA, low square center, 460cc, red, 195500-1350
86-87 13B Turbo, low square center, 550cc, tan, 195500-1370
88 13B NA, high square offset, 460cc, purple, 195500-1350
88 13B Turbo, high square offset, 550cc, purple, 195500-1370
89-91 13B NA, high oval center, 460cc, red, 195500-2010
89-91 13B Turbo, high oval center, 550cc, purple, 195500-2020


And me injectors are red! Does this mean they were changed at some point since factory? I know they flow the same, it's like finding out who your girlfriend slept with before you... lol

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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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Red injectors are NA injectors. Compare the part numbers printed on your injectors with the info in the FAQ. You DO NOT want to be driving under boost using NA injectors.

Edit...Some 720cc injectors are red as well. If you don't know, post the part number and I can look it up. The number should look something like "1995500....".

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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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seems retarded that someone would downgrade the injectors. They're probably aftermarket.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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No, he's probably just mistaking purple for red. The purple on the 88 turbo injectors doesnt look all that purple, until you compare them to the actual red 88 injectors, which are red/pinkish, and then they look much more purple.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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My 10 AE had red injectors too. Though on further inspection they are purple that has heat faded to a reddish color.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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^^

That seems more probable than smaller injectors, even if it was an accident. Then again, you never know WHAT people are thinking these days...
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Well, It's raining and cold in here the northland... So I wasn't gonna take my car apart... Next best thing, I found by report card from Marren Fuel Injection last year... it says...

NipponDenso 195500-1370

avg C.C. of fuel per minute after cleaning and balancing
157.9

So, the part number seems to match up... Phew... You suppose mazda could made the 550s like green or something... Purple and red look similar I guess after 16 years of driving...
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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So this is what you are seeing?



They are the correct injectors for the car as others have mentioned.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Well, tomorrow I will pull off my uim and take a look... Update to follow. Thx Aaron.
My report card says
"Injector Type: Sat. 13.8 Ohm"
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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The part number matches, the colour is close enough and the resistance is right, so you're probably fine.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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thanks to rotaryrockstar for posting the serial numbers i have identified the injecors i was given as s5 tii injectors, now i'm closer to turboing my project car wee
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Lol, hey Aaron... I just checked out your website and, My mom is on there as one of the inspirational stories! Lmao, I was the 21 year old son who told her to get one!
I.e. Carolyn E. Blake
Couldn't believe it...
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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That's awesome! Not to get too off topic, but lots of weird things relating to my website have happened too me lately. People stopping me on the street, meeting people at the electronics store buyings parts for my circuits, stuff like that. Crazy.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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thanks to rotaryrockstar for posting the serial numbers i have identified the injecors i was given as s5 tii injectors, now i'm closer to turboing my project car wee
...from my website...
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
...from my website...
Actually, if you read what he copy and pasted, it shows the info to come form the FAQ, in a post by Aaron. Not that the source substantially important.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 02:29 AM
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Actually, I had the info posted a year or so before the faq on this site included it. Looks familiar, minus some editing.

"Year type impedance plug style plug notch position flow rating color part number
84-85 13B NT low square center 680cc orange 195500-0900
86-87 13B NT low square center 460cc red 195500-1350
86-87 13B T low square center 550cc tan 195500-1370
88 13B NT high square offset 460cc purple 195500-1350
88 13b T high square offset 550cc purple 195500-1370
89-91 13B NT high oval center 460cc red 195500-2010
89-91 13B T high oval center 550cc purple 195500-2020"


http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/ro.../injector.html

True, not that it matters in the least, but I love how mysteriously all of the information I post on my site winds up in other people's tech articles and faq's with no mention of where it came from...yet the info wasn't available anywhere before I made it so.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 02:49 AM
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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Well, it just show that you're really helping people! It's too bad though that credit doesn't always seem to fall where it belongs. But hey, that's a problem that Clark Kent, Peter Parker and Kevin Landers just have to deal with! lol...
Regardless, thanx for all your data compilations and tech articles. Helped me remove my emissions! And this too! ahem...
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
No, he's probably just mistaking purple for red. The purple on the 88 turbo injectors doesnt look all that purple...
Then perhaps everyone should stop the confusion and not call them purple! The stock injectors in my 88 Turbo (tested at 550cc/min each) are not in the slightest bit purple. They are a darkish red just like the one in the photo Aaron posted above, not even close to purple.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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Then perhaps everyone should stop the confusion and not call them purple!
Okay, so let's clear that right up by saying "88 460cc red" and "88 550cc red". Yeah, that should do just the trick to eliminate confusion.

IF you look at both, you can make the argument that the NA's are actually an orange-red, while the t2's are actually a violet. Both could be called 'red" by someone who does not have the opposing set to compare with.

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
Okay, so let's clear that right up by saying "88 460cc red" and "88 550cc red". Yeah, that should do just the trick to eliminate confusion.
Well it's pretty silly to create confusion by describing them as a colour they're clearly not. That's why we have two people this week thinking their Turbo has red NA injectors.

IF you look at both, you can make the argument that the NA's are actually an orange-red, while the t2's are actually a violet.
Violet? I think you need to go look at a colour chart...

This is violet

Both could be called 'red" by someone who does not have the opposing set to compare with.
Maybe, but to me those injectors clearly look orange and red. No purple or violet to be seen. Why not just say that the NA injectors are orange and the Turbo ones are red? I'm pretty sure most people will be able to take a stab at whether their injectors are orange or red without a comparison. And if that photo's freely avalable then there should be little confusion.

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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For the record, I got this information several years ago on the FC3S_ORG list. I believe it was posted by Dale Clark.

It's not like it's super secret information or anything.

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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lmao... I didn't see this one coming... lol, sry guys...
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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I think the original picture was somewhat poor because of the backdrop skewing the color reference.

I have taken this picture to compare to red. The injector is from another car, and to the naked eye it is DEEP red, like an FD in VR. As is the top of the note pad. And the 88 turbo "purple" beside it. That color, whatever it is, is clearly NOT red. IT is too dark. True, it might not be fully violet, but it's closer to it than red. Perhaps burgundy. I believe if you follow the link you posted above to the color chart, "violet-red" comes pretty close.



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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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For the record, I got this information several years ago on the FC3S_ORG list. I believe it was posted by Dale Clark.

It's not like it's super secret information or anything.
I was on the same list since about late 98 in it's heyday. Not sure I ever saw Dale post that, though it did make some good posts about ecu applications and such which I copied to my site with permission.

And yes, it doesnt matter, I just find it odd that people were constantly asking me questions about this sort of info and no one could find any of it online, until I posted it, and then it pops up everywhere, yet it was supposedly "common knowledge" beforehand.
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