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Old 07-29-07, 11:17 AM
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E-manage Ultimate guys, i need help..

Hey guys just hooked up the emanage ultimate using dale clarks write up and the manual and im having a problem. im almost sure its something with the injectors. Dales doesnt really talk about it but i ran in emanage in series with the wire the grey stripe wire on the harness side and the red wire on the ecu side. And car does cranks but does not start. Do i need to have a basemap? These jumpers are kinda confusing. But i played with them and it didnt do anything? can i just have it run thorugh the emanage but not have the emanage effect it like running stock. thanks for any help guys
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I just tried testing the ingnition to see if is firing. i did not hook up to the ignition yet. the only thing in series is the airflow meter and injectors. And the trailing are not firing as frequent as the leading. Also the injectors dont seem to click when i was leistening. Even if i play with jumpers jp1, jp2 and jp18. If those are jumped does that mean it just runs the circuit through the emanage using the stock ecu? It sais open for using fuel trim adjustement and closed just to add fuel? is there not a way to run it through the emanage? do i need a basemap? As for the airflow meter jumper use the setting for karman vortex or honda air flow meter, ebing that we dont have either?SOrry guys im just so confused? any help is great thanks .brian
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The injectors are set up front rotor primary ecmanage chan 1 input wire is connected to ecu side and output wire is connected to harness side rear rotor primary is chan 2 front sec chan3 and rear secondary chan4 All with the input wire for the emanage on the ecu side of the cut and the output on the hanress side of the cut. Is this right?I did it this way because thats how greddys manual showed it on the hook up for add and trim. Or should the input be on the harness side and output be on the ecu side? Sorry for all the questions just have so many
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More input the car is in Fail safe mode:maintains besic signal at preset level. Im pretty sure i should have just spliced into the wires to add fuel. and think now i def some sort of basemap. im gonna go play on the labtop see if i can load anything
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Ok things i have discovered if you just splice the emanage harness to the injectors you will be in add only jump 1-2 for jp1-6 depending on which you spliced in. With the input wire( the wires with the red tracer).If you ran them in parallel(though im not sure if i hooked it up right) you should have jp1-6 open add and trim fuel. As far as the ignition signal i have no idea if thats 5v or 12v i havvnt seen a solid answer for that. i tried testing with my dmm although its not a dso and only shows average it showed about 1v. well that didnt help im leaning more towards 5v. But im not sure
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o alos never really found if the airflow increases voltage with increased airflow or decreases voltage with increased airflow just saw 2 different answers anyone know this solid?
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Well it started. Not really sure what i did exactly. but i picked the 13b in the parameters. and exported the data to the emanage unit and now it runs. i dont know if thats a base map or i believe its just running the stock map. SWEET... still have those questions about the airflow. I want to hook everything up. so back to researching then more soldering.
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i heard the trick about using the map senosr instead of the throttle position sensor. but hooked up the tps just to get it going for now. When data logging it does not show the tps as any percent open. I made sure that the ecu was getting the tps signal and it did its amazing what little range that sensor has. And the grey wire from the emanaged is spliced right onto that signal but it seems like the emanage is not getting it. Is there a jumper for this i didnt see anything. thanks for any help guys
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need help. guess there no that many emanage guys out there but ill give it a shot i hooked the pressure sensor up i get a good input but when data logging if the second pressure pick is output i dont have any out put. When i step on the gas pretty heavy the engine just dies. So i also think that might be because the emanage is not giving an output. ANY help,helps thanks guys
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I see from your avatar that you've got the TII - I have a UK convertible TII, and have managed to get the engine running with the emange Ultiamte - but pig rich !

I've spliced Injectors and Ignition circuits, set the water and intakte temps sensor inputs to open (not pull up). TPS signal is seen ok, although it was reversed until I swapped it over (0% when WOT).

It seems the eManage is loading the water and intake temp signals on the stock ECU and causing it to overfuel, as I've wired my loom so I can reconnect the stock signals back again, and with just TPS, Water and Intake Air temp it was overfuelling. Removed them and all went back to normal. I'm building a buffer box to isolate the stock ECU signals and prevent the eManage from dragging them down.

I'm using V2.13 firmware, apart from some problems with logging, it seems pretty clean.

Did you have to do anything other than what's in the manual to get it to run ok ?

Cheers,

Dave.
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