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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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soory bro , dont know where you got the idea that I was replacing power with skill, but come on, you can enter corners at much lower speeds with a high power car and drift through it, in a low power car, no can do, if you lose you power band, bye bye sliding, and your not drifting anymore. Thats why I think those who can drift in low power car, (full speed entery, and exit) show that they are more skilled, as if you started to learn in a high power car then go to a low power, you will have issues trying to get it to go sideways as you now need to focus on weight control vs power to drift.
false.
half-clutch/clutch kick = problem solved
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adjust your tire sizes to match your power
think outside the box, man

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big turbo=lag. same low end powerband problem as an N/A engine
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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Slow cars make fast drivers.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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spend money on cooling, youll need it
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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take your turbo off, leave everything else----- a guy on here says youll be the best.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Zerkster
spend money on cooling, youll need it
running a fluidyne with the air conditioning removed so temps are kept fine.

almost done sourcing out all of my parts and trying to finish my build in 1.5 months
got my turbo,manifold,ecu,manifolds, and modifying my n/a harness.
anybody with a s4 t2 diff in socal they're willing to sell?

gotta finish my drift/grip machine
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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your prob gonna need more than just a rad
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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i got a s4 tii diff lol. im down south from you. probably want to rebuild it, pulled it out of my car with like 130k miles
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor
Slow cars make fast drivers.
For once I actually agree with you.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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if your good enough to drift a low horsepower car then you can drift a high horsepower car for drifting is about throttle control speed angel and line...but mainly throttle control....if you can drift a low horsepower car then you have good throttle control its really not about power its about suspension tires and brakes im learning that now since i have been attending dai's drifting academy...my advice is start with your stock turbo and perfect your skills then move up to more power
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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your prob gonna need more than just a rad
on top of a fluidyne radiator and a taurus e-fan what else is good for cooling? i'm thinking of just running a stock top mount because the fmic i have is way too large for a stock turbo.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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low temp thermostat for sure and then oil cooling upgrades.
i have never personally used a taurus fan so i dont actually know hoe good thery are but i woulld invest in some real fans with a shroud

tmic is going to make your temps go up. the TMIC is gonna get hot and raise your IAT's and in turn raise your engine temp

its a bitch to keep my oil temps down
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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For once I actually agree with you.
Eh, everyone's not perfect.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor
Slow cars make fast drivers.
I believe this.

My friends are STARTING to get the hang of the idea as well.

We're building an ff del slow into a responsive curve hugging ***** soon. Just a few more parts my friend has to gather up and i have to get him stoned and talk him into atleast a gc/koni setup and we're trying to work out a deal on a jdm d series lsd tranny to bolt up to his turbo z6 sohc vtak. w00t. That chassis is going to be so fun. Screw all out horsepower. You dont need the **** to have fun. I had that mentality when i first stumbled into the drift/touge scene. Then i actually got to driving/drifting on the tight twisties. More powerful cars were harder to control and easier to find the limit on. Gas and steering input seemed almost too twitchy for me. I took the rx7 out a few times and drove a few hondas with loaded suspension and had a blast. Everything was linear and just felt "right" i guess.

I love a well balanced car that has anywhere from 140-220whp which is why i can't wait to get started on an 86 project my brother is wanting to do.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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86's are fun, I learned a lot in the month I had mine.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jackalop...20/hWSHd9NbaEM
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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FCs are way more fun than corollas.

And like 1/4 as stupid.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 04:53 AM
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Im selling my dd corolla... $3600 obo. Has 16 head and 20 valve block, Cams, true GTS, 86 hatch, trd springs in front,swift springs rear, tokico hp plus front and kyb agx 8 way adjustables rear, trd spark plug wires , nrg quick release, momo steering wheel, full interior, with welded diff. Has plenty of power.
Just putting it out there..

I need the money to rebuild my fc to formula d specs..Want to do pro am next year !
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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I'm still upset you got beat out by Hogan.......


DO NOT LET THAT **** HAPPEN AGAIN.


You > Friend killer who "thinks" he can drift.


And CJ, rollas do look like alot of fun.

FC's would pull more girls though.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Lol at using cars to get girls. No game?

Rollas are fun but not worth what people try to get for them. I paid $200 for mine and sold it for $400 blown up.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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yeah whats up with the ae86 community. People were asking $300 for one gts side axle, or asking $150 for a open diff. I snapped an axle in half mid drift[ I did not hit anything] and blew my gts LSD and everybody on club 4ag wanted an arm and a leg for a axle... Idk, I would never pay $150 for a open diff..
Maybe I should paint my corolla white black panda so it will sell easier >.<

Corollas are really expensive!!!! But I am selling mine for super cheap with rebuilt motor !! Need $$ for pro am! I just need a steady job.. damn me
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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3600? People sell stock corollas for that much. And you're in socal?! **** should sell like 30 seconds from now.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 02:24 AM
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alright guys... doing my turbobuild... still haha . running s5 turbo motor that im doing a medium streetport on both the intake and exhausts, which i havent done yet. here's my setup. i pretty much have everything except for a wideband and some side seal springs

Haltech e6x
Garrett t4 turbo .50 compressor trim .69 p trim exhaust side, journal bearing
front mount setup
550cc primary/1600cc secondary
3" straight pipe all the way back with resonators and a muffler


my question is... "is the stock turbo setup good enough to drift on?". I live in California so of course smog issues come into play... cops. im attempting to make this setup look legal, but since it's so much money... why go big if i can just go stock and drift fine on it.

so can i get any input from anybody? i'm looking forward to my build since my compressor trim is .50 it should spool early and plus everything's brand new.. but any pros/cons will be greatly appreciated
i got my D1 and Formula D licenses with a stock turbo, HKS tmic and 3" exhaust.. making 240hp... i would recommend starting with enough power to maintain drift without having to clutch kick a million times, but not too much that it detracts from learning the basics and really dialing in your suspension setup..
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by J.T.P.
i got my D1 and Formula D licenses with a stock turbo, HKS tmic and 3" exhaust.. making 240hp... i would recommend starting with enough power to maintain drift without having to clutch kick a million times, but not too much that it detracts from learning the basics and really dialing in your suspension setup..

wow that's all you have done with power? what about suspension mods though? all i have right now is just
part shop max coilovers,
rear camber adjuster,
polyurethane bushings all around,
racing beat sway bar up front, no rear swaybar,
strut tower bars,
dtss elminators
toe rod spacers
6 pt cage and that's about it . swapping out my diff mount since it went out on me to a competition mount.

and clutches? i'm planning on going with the ACT HD pressure plate and a 6puck clutch.

i'm thinking of modifying my hubs for a steering angle kit. this local shop part shop max does it for relatively cheap, but my friend does fab work and agreed to help me out with this too.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:40 AM
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He's not running that setup now. He first got his D1 and FD license a couple years ago.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DR_Knight
and clutches? i'm planning on going with the ACT HD pressure plate and a 6puck clutch.
ACT is the worst choice, when you will be working the clutch more... If you were drag racing, and used the clutch a couple times, then I'm sure it'd be fine... but when you need to "work" the clutch, it sucks.

You'll be splitting release forks, breaking pivot *****, failed hydros... They are a nightmare. Way too heavy pedal, for what they are rated to hold...
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DR_Knight
wow that's all you have done with power? what about suspension mods though? all i have right now is just
part shop max coilovers,
rear camber adjuster,
polyurethane bushings all around,
racing beat sway bar up front, no rear swaybar,
strut tower bars,
dtss elminators
toe rod spacers
6 pt cage and that's about it . swapping out my diff mount since it went out on me to a competition mount.

and clutches? i'm planning on going with the ACT HD pressure plate and a 6puck clutch.

i'm thinking of modifying my hubs for a steering angle kit. this local shop part shop max does it for relatively cheap, but my friend does fab work and agreed to help me out with this too.
that was my setup back in 06, now i'm making 460whp with a Borg-warner turbo setup.

if you're considering a new clutch setup, i would look at the OS-Giken twin disc's. they may be a little more money in the beginning, but i had one that lasted over 3 years of drifting along with daily driving. pedal pressure is awesome and it's easier on transmission parts.

also if you're considering modifying your spindles i make an awesome setup that may be a little pricey, but for what you get it's very reasonable. and i know they're proven. u can pm me for more info.
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