ricky732

Hey guys i have basically a stock 87 fc t2. It has a street port and an exhaust and thats it. I know what suspension i need to do, adjustable arms and the hole 9 yards, but im not to sure what to do motor wise. Should i just do turbo, fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, injectors and a front mount? With a tune ofcourse though....Imput from some people who drift FCs would be awesome!!

NoPistons!

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Dont screw with the motor.



Put the rest of your funds into a good seat, steering wheel and coilovers.

Any slop *** oem bushings and mounts should be replaced with delrin or aluminum. DTSS needs to go.

As far as adjustable arms, all you MIGHT need is a sublink and individual camber links for the rear.

Toe rods aren't a neccessity and coilovers have built in camber adjustment on the top hat.

ricky732

So your saying keep the motor bone stock? i know what i need to do for suspesnion, basically everything from tranny down is getting redone, bushings and all. But i dont think the 13b will have the power to keep em spinning sideways in 3rd lol

Skidtron

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Wont have the power to spin the tires in third gear?

Uhm

I have a NA motor that will spin the tires in third if its drifting. The T2 motor can easily spin the tires in third while drifting. You are correct in the fact that you cant just be driving on the freeway drop it in third and spin the tires. That's not the same as drifting though. Most drift cars for regular guys only make 300hp. There's guys with KAs with bolt ons in 240s that drift in third gear.

Like the other guy said do everything but the motor first.

My engine has the following:
(S5 NA)
Blitz intake
Full racing beat road race exhaust
Street ported
The ramp inserts in the 6pi sleeves from pineapple racing
No air pump or acv
electric air pump for the 6pi and vdi opening
choke plates removed from the throttle body
factory ecu
e fan
all misc bs removed from the engine like the thermovalve and what not
The only thing left on the engine is anything that throws a code. It doesn't all function but its there so the ecu is happy
most people say it should be making around 190hpish and 160ftish this seems about right since I can outrun a stock T2 but my car is super gutted and has suspension

I have no problem entering at above 95mph although I do have to shift to second to finish of the big entry turn since is so far the car starts running out of inertia plus gotta slow to make the transition to the infield where I drift. The rest of the course runs in 2nd gear.

The only thing I would do to your engine for now is make sure it even runs right. Most guys drive around with a motor that doesn't even work as good as a stock one and think they have something they dont.

Suspension, suspension, suspension. Wheels, knuckles, and whatever you need to stuff all that crap under the car. Seat is a big one once you go fast. Some people think it feels crazy to go sideways at 30mph. Think next time your doing 80mph on the freeway what it would be like to slide the car suddenly then you'll have a small glimpse of at least decent drifting.

I'm by no means the greatest driver but I'm decent and am quickly outgrowing my setup. I wanna see how far I can take the NA motor so more suspension for me.

ricky732

Oh i know seat and suspension is super important, i have 3 friends that are competing with D1 drivers. None of them have rx7's ofcourse so im the outcast haha

Skidtron

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If you stick with it youll be a better driver. The FC is very challenging compared to a s13 or s14. Mostly due to the stock steering angle.

ricky732

Im sure ill be able to get it down after a few runs, i tend to pick up stuff pretty quickly and ive drifted friends cars a lot haha

Skidtron

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You'll see the flaws of the car right off then. report back here and tell me what you think of the car when your done I'm interested to see a new FC driver's perspective.

It's driftable it's just not a 240 or hachi thats for sure.

dkwasherexd

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yeah it doesnt take much power for rotary to spin the wheels. this is what 250whp does!
225 18ss in the rear. Prior to this setup was a pretty stock s4 t2 setup and maybe put down almost 200whp, it was enough to keep up with other guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTi1s...layer_embedded

I would just get coilovers, camber plates, dtss eliminators, rear camber links, awr rear links and gp sports tierod or jtp knuckles.. a stock t2 engine is plenty.
Run 2154017 in front and maybe like a 235/40/18 rear.. Take out the rear sway bar and stiffen the front.

Skidtron

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Is that Cam's car at horse theif? If it is tell that guy to holla at me. He called like a month ago and I forgot to save his new number.

ricky732

allright cool thanks guys and ill deff let you know how it goes as well

shadowboym

to add, iv been drifting my fc and i have a stock t2 motor pretty much all i have is a front mount made and $15 intake from oreillys(my job) and have a full exhaust. i make plenty to spin third. i love my fc, and no its not easy like the s chassis, but i agree with what they are saying, SEAT, and suspension, and a good lsd or like me i run a welded diff. but all you need to start showing what a fc can do is of course SEAT TIME, a good seat, good suspension. on another note, im getting modded knuckles soon to see how that works for next season

ricky732

Yeaa i got a lot to go now.. my motor blew today -__-

K!NCH

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You guys keep mentioning seats, the stock seats in my FC hold me pretty well. What would you suggest for a DD. I was thinking about the Recaro Speeds since I DD the car and reclinable would be nice for trips. I don't mind fixed back but IDK if I wanna drive 4 hours home from school with one.

shadowboym

I love my corbeau forza it's not to bad

NoPistons!

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It wont be the last.

Motor first it is.

ricky732

well ive been thinking, its all about the ls1 now haha

TweakGames

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Go ls1, you won't regret it. Super easy to install once you do a little reading. Took me 4 weekends, makes the car a drift-matic. Don't even give it a second thought. I feel stupid for sticking with the rotary for so long. 28 MPG isn't bad either. XD

iani1.1

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im planning to do the ls2 swap. does it feel alot better?

TweakGames

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It's so much better, I honestly don't think it is possible to explain it. For example, I gave my friend Rob a ride in the car and half way through the ride he was already making plan on how to sell all his s5 T2 drivetrain. XD

Now to make it fair, I have had a LOT of rotary engines through my 88 GTU (over 10), and the last one being the highest powered one. 13-RE with T04S and then T04R. At 11 psi it was making ~312 rwhp.

Last weekend I did my first 2 day autocross event with the stock Ls1. Before that it took about 2 days to get fully used to the engine. I can guarantee to you the "big" v8 doesn't throw off the weight as I kept my coilovers at the same exact height/preload/numbers and it handled perfect.

The first day I took a test drive without any exhaust, just the stock exhaust manifolds I was honestly scared to drive the car. It would just launch forward, and I didnt have the tach hooked up. (just took 1 wire lol, the stock ls1 ecu works with the stock FC tach). I was more than happy with the power, and then once the tach was hooked up I was only reving it out to 3,500 rpm lol.

Got the full exhaust put on and got the front 02 sensors put on and it was perfect. I just had the cheapest crust bent 2.5 inch with 2 generic fake mufflers and it was fine. After figuring out 1st gear was pretty much useless and unnecessary the car got really fun. The power is instantaneousness and plentiful. I actually got yelled at by the autox women for not keeping my rear end under control the first day. XD So easy to slide and I have 255 nt05 rears. I ended up driving the autoX in 3rd or 4th and could still get the rear out at wot without a clutch kick.

Once I figured out the throttle, I did some stupid simple drifts holding constant throttle. Not fighting with raising and lowering power while holding the gas pedal down the same (from boost) makes it stupid simple. Give it 50% throttle you will always get XXX hp at that RPM. No hitting WOT then letting off after boost builds and finding a new pedal position to hold XXX power.

After the first day of autox, the car felt normal, like this was what it should be. The fact that I was able to drive the car back home after the event was a change for the car. The whole time I was at the AutoX I never got over 190* water, and my fans never even turned on. After watching the videos you can see and hear the car isnt stressed, reving out to the moon, just a constant deep muscle thumping around the course, while hauling ***.

Now, LS2.... personally I would say waste of money and time. You will have to spend some extra money on the front accessories, ecu, oil pan, and other things, when you honestly do NOT need that extra power. .3 more liters... Go find a crashed fbody car for 2k, take the engine, ecu, and transmission out, and throw it in your 7. If for some reason you feel like your life expectancy is still too long, go ahead and throw a cam and headers on. Pretty much 400 rwhp now days.

You might want to look into the junk yard 5.3L engines also. You can pick them up for 400$. Now that I have the oil pan, ecu, harness, and all that good stuff, if I blow up my ls1 somehow, I can go get a 5.3L and change all my stuff over for 400$.

Anyways, go to norotors.com and read up for a couple months. It's honestly easy as pie to install and get it running.

If you are thinking about doing it, just do it. After selling all my rotary stuff, and selling some of the parts off my fbody, I am only in it about $1000. Completely and utterly worth it. You COULD NOT PAY ME to put a rotary back in the car. Seriously.... do it.

~Tweak

iani1.1

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looks like im going ls now then. satisfied by what everyone has to say about it as far as drifting goes.