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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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rear sway bar??

i have a basically stock suspension s4 tII and i was told by a pro that i will leave unamed that it would help out alot if i took out the rear swaybar??? is this true or is it BS? please save the your an idiot comments cause i could care less what you think about my knowledge of suspension setups i just need to know if its a good idea and why? or why not? Thanks in advance
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Are you NA or turbo.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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You're trying to validate this pro's advice by asking RX7Club?
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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The only thing I can say is to try it out if you want. See how it works for you. I personally dont like it, makes the rear end way too loose!.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorifto_PG
You're trying to validate this pro's advice by asking RX7Club?

Lol^

Whats your say Lindsay?
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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it say tII in my original post sorry to be smart *** just couldnt help it but if you have input please continue
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorifto_PG
You're trying to validate this pro's advice by asking RX7Club?
im only asking because he drives an s13 so figured i would ask the people who actually drive the same platform i do
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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The only thing I can say is to try it out if you want. See how it works for you. I personally dont like it, makes the rear end way too loose!.
ok but what would be the benefit of taking it out?
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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The sway bar stops the car from "rolling" in a turn. Stopping the car from leaning to the left on a right hand corner and right on a left hand corner.

to me, there is no benefit, except for uloading 1 of your rear wheels. But this isnt a benefit in all actuality. You loose forward thrust from that wheel, and make the car that much more unstable and uncontrollable.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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it say tII in my original post sorry to be smart *** just couldnt help it but if you have input please continue
Keep it on. You have enough initial power depending on whether or not your car is running correctly that the rear sway bar is needed to have precise control on your car in at faster cornering speeds. If you were NA, or your buddy has a NA 240 removing the rear sway is a decent idea because you can start off a drift more easily due to the extra weight being moved to the direction you are trying to drift so it kind of pulls you around, but you will not have as much control when you are running tight consecutive corners.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by turboefini88
The sway bar stops the car from "rolling" in a turn. Stopping the car from leaning to the left on a right hand corner and right on a left hand corner.

to me, there is no benefit, except for uloading 1 of your rear wheels. But this isnt a benefit in all actuality. You loose forward thrust from that wheel, and make the car that much more unstable and uncontrollable.
thats what i was thinking why would you loosen somthing your trying to control... but i figured i would double check... more input would be appreciated thanks for all the immediate answers
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Keep it on. You have enough initial power depending on whether or not your car is running correctly that the rear sway bar is needed to have precise control on your car in at faster cornering speeds. If you were NA, or your buddy has a NA 240 removing the rear sway is a decent idea because you can start off a drift more easily due to the extra weight being moved to the direction you are trying to drift so it kind of pulls you around, but you will not have as much control when you are running tight consecutive corners.
thats what i figured but wanted to double check thanks alot
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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thats what i figured but wanted to double check thanks alot
Just remember most things in drifting can swing either way depending on your power output and weight. This is why i start out most of my posts here NA or turbo, it gives me a broad generalization to work with so I can answer your questions better.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by turboefini88
Lol^

Whats your say Lindsay?
word on the street sez lindsay rocks the no rear swaybar.

whoops, did i post that?

or was it jtp.. or both? i actually can't remember. lol
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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thats so strange to hear that removing the bar would help. I know alot of people ditch their front bar(i have done such).
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 03:00 AM
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tried removing the rear sway bar, didnt like it..... put it back in..

i hear alot of people like it better without though...
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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you that have removed it did you keep the front bar on?
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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I would hate to ride in some of your guys cars lol. TO run without front or rear bars on my old set up I would just rock all over the place and it was a bitch t control while sliding, but was easy to get started.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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I would much rather up my skill level than take the easy way out by removing parts.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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hahah what Pro did you ask? That is some stupid stuff started on another forum. Don't take the rear sway bar out. That is my Professional opinion.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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disconnect one drop link and try it. decide for yourself. you dont need to remove it completely for it to stop working. i personally like it disconnected.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I'd only advise doing it if you were driving a low powered car in which case its handy to have the momentum of the shifting weight moving around to keep you drifting. On the other hand if you don't actually need it then it feels pretty awful and makes the car unpreditable and hard to control because it will 'spring' from one side to the other as you transition from drifting one way to drifting the other way. Its the same if you have standard shocks on your car that are too high and soft for track/drift work. Having all the weight moving around is a good teacher so its often good to learn in a low powered car that you really have to throw around but once you get past this stage and understand what the car is doing you want to really tighten things down.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranzo
hahah what Pro did you ask? That is some stupid stuff started on another forum. Don't take the rear sway bar out. That is my Professional opinion.
like i said im not gonna say who but there on drift alliance lol
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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yeah there a few of them that swear that is the business..... I think they are doing it just to see who will try it for thier own entertainment. I find it hard to make into a serious topic of discussion.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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I'm going to leave it a mystery.

I'll just say that it is personal preference and it also goes hand-in-hand with your spring rates, power output, tire size, and chassis stiffness.

Also, I'll say that I disagree with Ranzo.

This reminds me of a story about a US kart team competing in SKUSA 125cc shifter class buying the Italian's championship winning Birel set up for like $1,000,000. They wanted to compare Beggio's kart and they tricks he did so that they could do that for their driver in the USA and "learn the secrets". Well the joke was on them, they got the stuff and it was all medium medium medium medium stock stock stock. They thought the Italians pulled a fast one and they were PISSED. Well, guess how Beggio wins his championships? He is the best driver.

Point is, what works awesome for some people might not be awesome for you.
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