CyborgRyu

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I just got back from a local event, I have a power rack that was just plugged up. I was pretty much forcing/fighting steer lock to get it going. The guys were telling me to go get Power Steering back; but really isn't an option for me anymore as I have a v-mount and it takes alot of room.

Is anybody looping the lines or manual rack having the same problem?

DRFT_HRD

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I would just reroute your piping on the cold side so it works drifting an FC without power steering is to hard and you will be worn out before you even get through 1 set of tires.

Ranzo

I did the manual rack conversion. It is better than a plugged rack by quite a margin. I will say that I want my Power steering back though. It is not bad when driving but if I change to a friends car or something.....WoW its so easy, almost like a vacation...LOL

I don't see why a V mount setup would interfere with your PWS though.

Dorifto_PG

Cold pipes usually have to either snake around the power steering, or if they are more direct you need to re(move) it.


I have power steering and big ol' V-mount. So does Justin (BoostinMyS5).

You need to get a 1st Gen GSL-SE power steering bracket. You need to trim it to fit an FC PS pump. This places the pump down low. You need to get another main crank pulley, and 3 crank pully spacers and flip it around and stack the pacers and mount it to the front of the existing crank pulley. And it lines up perfectly with the pulley from the FC PS pump AND the GSL-SE tensioner pully on the bracket.

Then walk into Autozone and get a belt that fits the measurement you pulled once everything is mounted. Viola.

Roen

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look for proper rack depower threads in the 2nd gen section.

CyborgRyu

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dunno.....right now i can't even put a strut tower bar on it as i want to. i think the fc pws sits pretty high. can i see more detailed pictures of this 1st gen PWS pump.

Dorifto_PG

My belt wasn't on in this pic, and my engine bay is a MESS, but it was right after a rebuild, just getting it running again. Just look at the PS placement, don't judge me on anything else!

Ranzo

nice setup. I never thought about using a GSl pws bracket. That lets the piping come right where it needs too.

I did a car with that sort of piping on a front mount and that bracket would have helped out a lot.

Twins80s

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I drift my FC without power steering. I am sure there are times I could have been alittle smoother if I had power steering, but over all I dont find that it is hard to drift without it.

DRFT_HRD

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Night and day.

Digi7ech

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I converted to a manual rack when my PS rack blew. It sucked for the first 2 weeks but now I love it. Some times I will need to make that extra turn of the wheel but generally I get along with it.

I wouldn't even bother with a depowered rack. It would just be too hard unless you modified it to allow fluid movement internally.

Roen

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fluid without a pump just serves as resistance. The least resistance method is to drain all the fluid completely.

Ranzo

You have to properly depower the rack by disassemling it and taking all the seals out and lubing it with grease in the proper amount.

A true manual rack is still easier to turn when sitting still but it is more turns lock to lock.

turboefini88

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a lil off topic!!! Ranzo. I luve your pain bro. Can you send me some hi res pics? I was thinking about doing the same but instead of grey, gonna do the Spicy Orange Mica the 03 Mazdaspeed Proteges came in (I had one, and loved the color)

/off topic

Im still rockin Power rack with stock top mount. My plan is to go V mount this winter and of Course Lindsay comes through with how to keep power with a V mount!!!

dkwasherexd

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u need POWER STEERING idont have powersteering on my car, never had its its a 86 s model, so i learned drifting with no powersteering and its HARD, buut eventualyafter 6months i got it down, and then i tried my friends s13 w/powersteering, i turned into adrift god seriously, powersteering makes it sooooooooo EZZZZZZZZZZ.. so much more steering input! u have to have powersteering..

dkwasherexd

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with more steering input by using power steering ucan recover more resposivly therefore you can aggresivly create more SICK angle and countersteer it quick enough. Man I need a PS rack so bad.... I have the Pump and lines already myfriends gave me, but still need a rack to convert to...The only time ican realy drift crazy since ihave no PS is in the rain[ez transfer], but when its dry its harder to swang becuase low steering input and big wheels in the front just makes it more harder..

Ranzo

Here is a link to my website. Hi res pics on page 1 and 3. This is off topic...no pics of steering rack on this link.


http://www.tractionoptional.com/foru...pic.php?t=1474

luckyfd

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any diffrance in the s4 and s5 ps system??? like ratios and all that.... except the ps computer on the s5

TheRedPirate

I use power steering in my fc wouldn't have it any other way. but i do need to go to v mount I know the top mount isn't doing me much good especially since i daily drive it

CyborgRyu

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the ratio is all in the rack itself. the pumps are universal.

just ordered my GSLSE ps pump and fc power steering pump. I hope its easier because I like to drift when my car runs right!

royalwithcream

Quick question and suggestion that you guys may be able to correct me with. How much caster are you running on your car with no power steering mate? The only time I drifted my FD before it blew I had an electric PS setup (from a small hatchback) which was hard work but after driving s13s and skylines for the last 8mths I realised a lot of it was to do with having very little caster on my FD so the wheel wouldn't centralise all that quickly and I'd have to push it back around instead of just letting go. On the nissans I can drive very light fingered and only really need to yank the wheel if I go wrong and need to correct. I'm hoping I'll be able to do the same on the FD if i add some more caster. I'm running around 5-7 degrees on the skyline so will probably start with that and see how it feels. Having too much caster made the steering feel lumpy and it seemed to 'sit' on lock which was quite strange, but overall annoying. Anyhow wondered what any of you thought?

fcdrifter13

I ran a PS rack without the power part, I drained all the fluid and greased it up, and it was easy to turn with my larger momo wheel I had on the car. the extra few MM of the wheel diameter made it work as well as it did I think.

prad0_G

I dont have p/s.. i agree drifting with it would be much better.. but when it comes to rotary i just want to let the engine be.. no bullshit around it or any stress off the pully lol...the p/s in all my friends 240's always **** up after a run too.. it boils out or somehting lol..

so im juust like eh.. dont wana deal with it

dkwasherexd

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has anybody done a front mount setup with PS??

dsmmodified

there area few guys with the PS and FMIC on TeamFC3s.
I use to have mine PS/FMIC but removed it. Trying to do the PS swap and VMIC.