N/A FC Drift Advice
08-16-08, 12:40 AM
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N/A FC Drift Advice
Been drifting n/a for about 3 practices now, my biggest problem (at least I think it is) is initiation 
. I can't get my car to kick out and I was wondering what techniques people are using to get their FCs sideways? I realize the have a completely stock suspension isn't helping either, nor is the lack of power 
. So my second question is, what should I upgrade first? Suspension (Stance GR+ Pros) or power (TII swap)? 
Thanks.
. I can't get my car to kick out and I was wondering what techniques people are using to get their FCs sideways? I realize the have a completely stock suspension isn't helping either, nor is the lack of power . So my second question is, what should I upgrade first? Suspension (Stance GR+ Pros) or power (TII swap)? Thanks.
08-16-08, 02:36 AM
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suspension first, that's probably hurting your initiations. you have dtss eliminators as well, correct? those should be your top two priorities. i think everyone who says dtss isn't that big of a deal is turbo. being N/A i noticed night and day difference.
i've heard its a northwest "style" but clutch kick is your friend. i usually use feint/clutch kick combo to initiate from a straight (watch this video of haruguchi, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPGOaG_doQw ~2:15 ) and throttle induced weight transfer to link.
at first i was kinda mad i bought an n/a instead of a t2, but i've become a believer of learning to drift low power first, then adding power as needed. i hope to be boosted for at least one session before the year is over!
i've heard its a northwest "style" but clutch kick is your friend. i usually use feint/clutch kick combo to initiate from a straight (watch this video of haruguchi, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPGOaG_doQw ~2:15 ) and throttle induced weight transfer to link.
at first i was kinda mad i bought an n/a instead of a t2, but i've become a believer of learning to drift low power first, then adding power as needed. i hope to be boosted for at least one session before the year is over!
08-16-08, 10:04 AM
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Been drifting n/a for about 3 practices now, my biggest problem (at least I think it is) is initiation . I can't get my car to kick out and I was wondering what techniques people are using to get their FCs sideways? I realize the have a completely stock suspension isn't helping either, nor is the lack of power . So my second question is, what should I upgrade first? Suspension (Stance GR+ Pros) or power (TII swap)?
Thanks.
. I can't get my car to kick out and I was wondering what techniques people are using to get their FCs sideways? I realize the have a completely stock suspension isn't helping either, nor is the lack of power . So my second question is, what should I upgrade first? Suspension (Stance GR+ Pros) or power (TII swap)? Thanks.
08-16-08, 11:06 AM
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suspension first, that's probably hurting your initiations. you have dtss eliminators as well, correct? those should be your top two priorities. i think everyone who says dtss isn't that big of a deal is turbo. being N/A i noticed night and day difference.
i've heard its a northwest "style" but clutch kick is your friend. i usually use feint/clutch kick combo to initiate from a straight (watch this video of haruguchi, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPGOaG_doQw ~2:15 ) and throttle induced weight transfer to link.
at first i was kinda mad i bought an n/a instead of a t2, but i've become a believer of learning to drift low power first, then adding power as needed. i hope to be boosted for at least one session before the year is over!
i've heard its a northwest "style" but clutch kick is your friend. i usually use feint/clutch kick combo to initiate from a straight (watch this video of haruguchi, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPGOaG_doQw ~2:15 ) and throttle induced weight transfer to link.
at first i was kinda mad i bought an n/a instead of a t2, but i've become a believer of learning to drift low power first, then adding power as needed. i hope to be boosted for at least one session before the year is over!
08-16-08, 11:21 AM
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Get a diff or weld yours that will make the car way better then you could ever imagine and when you have the rear down get dtss go get an alignment and have fun. I ran a na for a few events last season
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08-16-08, 11:37 AM
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ok.. i drifted a Stock Vert for over 4 months and best ways to initate a drift with a stock POS suspension is to sway it or yank the e-brake... but now i got lsd,intake,hks exhaust, lsd, Megan Track set coilovers... so now all i gotta do is either clutch kick or just hit the gas and she will turn side ways
08-16-08, 11:41 AM
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ok.. i drifted a Stock Vert for over 4 months and best ways to initate a drift with a stock POS suspension is to sway it or yank the e-brake... but now i got lsd,intake,hks exhaust, lsd, Megan Track set coilovers... so now all i gotta do is either clutch kick or just hit the gas and she will turn side ways
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It does, do not touch your diff ever, welding is just stupid was I have expressed in many other threads. As far as seats and a wheel it really is up to you, the stock seats in the GTU are the sport version and held my fat *** in pretty well(an 88GTU was my 1st 7 drifter) the wheel was a lil big if you keep the PS, which you should it makes a difference. A roll cage is not needed unless you are planning to go to the completive level although an autopower rollbar is nice to have is you upgrade your seat to ones you can use a racing style belt with effectively and it can stiffen up the chassis a small amount.
IF I were you and if you have no plans f being super cereal about competing I would get a eibach spring and AGXs with camber plates, and an exhaust if you are going to stay NA. If you are planning a t2 swap still get an exhaust a pump and port your WG and have some fun.
IF I were you and if you have no plans f being super cereal about competing I would get a eibach spring and AGXs with camber plates, and an exhaust if you are going to stay NA. If you are planning a t2 swap still get an exhaust a pump and port your WG and have some fun.
08-16-08, 12:01 PM
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It does, do not touch your diff ever, welding is just stupid was I have expressed in many other threads. As far as seats and a wheel it really is up to you, the stock seats in the GTU are the sport version and held my fat *** in pretty well(an 88GTU was my 1st 7 drifter) the wheel was a lil big if you keep the PS, which you should it makes a difference. A roll cage is not needed unless you are planning to go to the completive level although an autopower rollbar is nice to have is you upgrade your seat to ones you can use a racing style belt with effectively and it can stiffen up the chassis a small amount.
IF I were you and if you have no plans f being super cereal about competing I would get a eibach spring and AGXs with camber plates, and an exhaust if you are going to stay NA. If you are planning a t2 swap still get an exhaust a pump and port your WG and have some fun.
IF I were you and if you have no plans f being super cereal about competing I would get a eibach spring and AGXs with camber plates, and an exhaust if you are going to stay NA. If you are planning a t2 swap still get an exhaust a pump and port your WG and have some fun.
08-16-08, 12:11 PM
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Kinch. Rock the N/A and upgrade the suspension. A dood from unicorn Drift Squad rocked an 86 BASE, stock WITH DTSS and 98 WHP last year and killed it. Again tho, he had uber skillz but it can be done.
Your body roll is horrible, the suspension is giving way too much for your rear wheels to break loose. That is the biggest thing I noticed while watching you at practice.
Stay away from doing anything BUT a full, real, coilover setup. KYB's with a sleeved coil over it IMHO is not a coilover but a cheap way to get some sort of adjustability in your suspension. Youll soon out grow that setup and never get half of what you paid for it. Spend the extra 300-400 to get a good full coilover setup and be done with it. You get the front camber plates, 15 way dampening (stances) and the ability to load your springs to what you need.
Mazdatrix has a clutch type LSD rebuild kit/plates with competition clutch plates available. Im ordering mine when I get back from Vegas, and Ill gladly rebuild yours too. http://www.mazdatrix.com/G8LSD.HTM bottom of the page for the discs. Like 200 bux and you got a fresh LSD with better and faster lock up.
Your body roll is horrible, the suspension is giving way too much for your rear wheels to break loose. That is the biggest thing I noticed while watching you at practice.
Stay away from doing anything BUT a full, real, coilover setup. KYB's with a sleeved coil over it IMHO is not a coilover but a cheap way to get some sort of adjustability in your suspension. Youll soon out grow that setup and never get half of what you paid for it. Spend the extra 300-400 to get a good full coilover setup and be done with it. You get the front camber plates, 15 way dampening (stances) and the ability to load your springs to what you need.
Mazdatrix has a clutch type LSD rebuild kit/plates with competition clutch plates available. Im ordering mine when I get back from Vegas, and Ill gladly rebuild yours too. http://www.mazdatrix.com/G8LSD.HTM bottom of the page for the discs. Like 200 bux and you got a fresh LSD with better and faster lock up.
08-16-08, 12:16 PM
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Do the coils and the DTSS, and possibly a new bushing kit for the whole suspension. Get out and get a feel for what your setup does and get good. After that, look into getting the subframe stiffeners, strut bars, upgraded sways, Garinuchi (sp) bars ect ect.
Remember what I said @ Beaver Run, suspension is KING in drift.
08-16-08, 12:28 PM
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Kinch. Rock the N/A and upgrade the suspension. A dood from unicorn Drift Squad rocked an 86 BASE, stock WITH DTSS and 98 WHP last year and killed it. Again tho, he had uber skillz but it can be done.
Your body roll is horrible, the suspension is giving way too much for your rear wheels to break loose. That is the biggest thing I noticed while watching you at practice.
Stay away from doing anything BUT a full, real, coilover setup. KYB's with a sleeved coil over it IMHO is not a coilover but a cheap way to get some sort of adjustability in your suspension. Youll soon out grow that setup and never get half of what you paid for it. Spend the extra 300-400 to get a good full coilover setup and be done with it. You get the front camber plates, 15 way dampening (stances) and the ability to load your springs to what you need.
Mazdatrix has a clutch type LSD rebuild kit/plates with competition clutch plates available. Im ordering mine when I get back from Vegas, and Ill gladly rebuild yours too. http://www.mazdatrix.com/G8LSD.HTM bottom of the page for the discs. Like 200 bux and you got a fresh LSD with better and faster lock up.
Your body roll is horrible, the suspension is giving way too much for your rear wheels to break loose. That is the biggest thing I noticed while watching you at practice.
Stay away from doing anything BUT a full, real, coilover setup. KYB's with a sleeved coil over it IMHO is not a coilover but a cheap way to get some sort of adjustability in your suspension. Youll soon out grow that setup and never get half of what you paid for it. Spend the extra 300-400 to get a good full coilover setup and be done with it. You get the front camber plates, 15 way dampening (stances) and the ability to load your springs to what you need.
Mazdatrix has a clutch type LSD rebuild kit/plates with competition clutch plates available. Im ordering mine when I get back from Vegas, and Ill gladly rebuild yours too. http://www.mazdatrix.com/G8LSD.HTM bottom of the page for the discs. Like 200 bux and you got a fresh LSD with better and faster lock up.
08-16-08, 01:18 PM
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I wasnt gonna weld it, just double checking. If I do modify it I'll upgrade to a Cusco or something. I'm going to T2 Swap eventually. I already have a cat-back. I'm going to keep my PS (it's my every day car as well). I've decided to go with Stance GR+ Pro coilovers. What about strut bars? I've seen people run with and with out them. Do they make a difference?
08-16-08, 01:35 PM
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Dont get the +pros. They have the helper springs, which is in there for the road race guys. I debated a while about it, and talked to RISHIE @ AutoRnD and alot of other peeps running the Stances, and the GR+ are more then enough and better for drifting then the pros.
Do the coils and the DTSS, and possibly a new bushing kit for the whole suspension. Get out and get a feel for what your setup does and get good. After that, look into getting the subframe stiffeners, strut bars, upgraded sways, Garinuchi (sp) bars ect ect.
Remember what I said @ Beaver Run, suspension is KING in drift.
Do the coils and the DTSS, and possibly a new bushing kit for the whole suspension. Get out and get a feel for what your setup does and get good. After that, look into getting the subframe stiffeners, strut bars, upgraded sways, Garinuchi (sp) bars ect ect.
Remember what I said @ Beaver Run, suspension is KING in drift.
08-16-08, 02:37 PM
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Kinch read my post about the +PROS. Not worth it for you. They are a road race setup with the helper spring. I can help you adjust them, put them in and help you do the DTSS elims too. 
Remember, I do it for a living so I got all the tools. Its not that hard either.
Remember, I do it for a living so I got all the tools. Its not that hard either.
08-16-08, 02:51 PM
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F**K THE SYSTEM!!
If you have a lsd diff already, Get coilovers.
Besides that, i would just use a correct tire size that matches your power.
For exmaple, if your power is close to stock, I would use rims no bigger than 16 in. and tires no wider than 215... maybe smaller?
Use a rim/tire setup similar to an underpowered AE86.
Besides that, i would just use a correct tire size that matches your power.
For exmaple, if your power is close to stock, I would use rims no bigger than 16 in. and tires no wider than 215... maybe smaller?
Use a rim/tire setup similar to an underpowered AE86.
08-16-08, 03:20 PM
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If you have a lsd diff already, Get coilovers.
Besides that, i would just use a correct tire size that matches your power.
For exmaple, if your power is close to stock, I would use rims no bigger than 16 in. and tires no wider than 215... maybe smaller?
Use a rim/tire setup similar to an underpowered AE86.
Besides that, i would just use a correct tire size that matches your power.
For exmaple, if your power is close to stock, I would use rims no bigger than 16 in. and tires no wider than 215... maybe smaller?
Use a rim/tire setup similar to an underpowered AE86.
I looked into them, once I get the suspension done I'll see if I have money left over...
08-16-08, 05:04 PM
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i drifted a stock six port turbo with coil overs and a cage competively last year. first thing i would do bud is a seriouse suspension set up even if its just a ground control coil over set up. unfortnulately i am driving non turbo this year with a crap suspension set up and header and exhaust and have been doing rather fine. pedal to the floor and alot of clutch kicks but its been getting the job done. some fifteens and 70 psi of tire pressure will help get the third gear drifts done that will be needed to compete with the higher powered carrs