TitaniumTT

I can't stand "drifters" like you. Fad chasers who will proudly stand up and beat a flabby stomach and proclaim drifters for life!!!! One of the reasons I can't stand drifters like you is becuase you got into it to chase the fad and get as much attention as you possible can. Chrome rims and body kits, smoke and noise, stickers galore that you can't even see through and to top it off you brag about all the video you have and over 3000 pictures of yourself. Seriosuly - 3k pictures is someone who wants to spread himself around and get as much attention as he possibly can.

xzyras

Haha, ok well lets hope the mods get it straightened out. I want to drive Thunder Hill, I think it's the last track I need to be on. Oh and Laguna... I would love to drive Laguna.


But, Titan guy, we all like you so much. And I'm sorry I started the sticker trend. Sometimes I feel so guilty about F1. I know I have too many stickers and shiny gold emblems. Benz & BMW will be out of business soon cause no one likes flashy cars and shiny rims.

Quiet race cars, all look the same and same color 15' rusted rims, got it man. I'm on it! And I will Chrome my light race wheels and add 6lbs to each one. Wow good thing you came along. Us "drifters" sure don't know anything about setting up FC's or race cars.. Thanks Richard.

Oh yeah; Attention = Sponsors. FYI

Roen

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I thought skill + good personality + confidence to approach = sponsors?

sinone

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Hey xzyras Sweet car... how do you hold that much angle in a FC even if you have spacers? What tires do you run

xzyras

Haha... sure they help but only after potential sponsors approach you. Gotta get them interested 1st.

In reality it's really hard to get sponsors. You have to have a nice resume and everything you and I mentioned and that something special. Sometimes you get bad sponsors too though. They're a nightmare and have to be dropped.

xzyras

It's a secret...

speed rII

Offtopic but heres fd angle

http://ketola.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Radalle...F4039.JPG/full


Pic is taken by ketolaracing.fi

afro88

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Here is a few of mine. Thought I would post some since there is a lack of such in this thread.



















I havent had a chance to drift my fc at the track yet but the whole lack of power thing was the reason for the switch. It's extremely frustrating not being able to drift the same line as everyone else and not being able to do super early smokey drifts because you only have 90hp and even less torque.

Roen

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Looks like my wish and your wishes were granted. Enjoy your new drifting section, and talk about drifting to your hearts content.

Just one thing:

I'll be your mod for this section so remember: Play nice! or else.

skihirevz9000

It's surprising to see all the drift-haters... and since when is drift not a racing technique? the lower kinetic friction between tire/road allows for higher rpm and more speed through the corner. When a drift is executed properly it's actually a highly effective technique.

Roen

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Please show me any race series that you see it being done in nowadays.....it was effective back in the day when tires were bad, but these days, it's no longer applicable, unless executed perfectly. I still have not seen it executed perfectly (i.e. without countersteer) to this day.

Keep it realistic folks.

afro88

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Initial D

















Is not real.

Brismo7

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Midget and dirt track racing. Other than that, grip(god i feel like a tool using that term) is faster. You dont see mad tyte drift'in on nurburgen do ya?

Drifting is something professional racers do for fun while getting paid, and for the kiddies who think your "your not in control, unless your outta control, son!"

People should rally more. Now that is a REAL motorsport!

Drifting = Pop culture of America. It will die when the next big thing comes along. I'm guessing rally events in stadiums will be the next big thing, and everyone will rush to go buy subaru's and Evo's(like they arnt already )

Roen

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lol, you caught me on that one, I meant to say high speed road course circuit racing.

dgeesaman

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In a few years you can take physics and learn why that's all wrong.

That said, grip driving does involve some drift - the 4 wheel drift. There is a slight sliding element to pushing a good tire to it's maximum grip level. But the fast drivers of the world are good because they can get all four wheels as equally close to that level in the most evenly distributed manner possible. Sometimes more drift in the rear is helpful - but it's not the fastest way to take a corner.

"Drifting" as a sport involves excessive 2 wheel drift that puts the front wheels well below their grip capacity and the rear wheels even worse. By inducing massive power oversteer you're simply cooking the rears beyond their max grip and using the fronts to keep you in that configuration. It's of no use when taken to that extreme.

Dave

Brismo7

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Drift as a sport? haha, I consider it as much of a sport as ice skating. Since they are both judged the same way...

DevilEYEaM

Actually drifting has been compared to figure-skating. Its true that a drift event isn't a "race" in technical terms, but street drifting is another story. Event drifting is for show, angle, and technique while street or "race" drifting is to see who can get across the finish line first using drift techniques.
I think thats called racing... or something.

And actually figure-skating is a sport. Its just not a rough, manly, dirty sport the likes of football or something. Syncronized swimming is a sport too. And technically ballet is a sport. Just throwing that out there.

afro88

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^^ WTF are you talking about? No one "drift races". Thats retarded as hell. That was only in that fagtastic movie so posers and haters could relate to it. Now all these lames go around with "drift racing" shirts and their "drift racing cars" and the real people who drift just take pictures with them so they can laugh about it later.

I guess drifting could be related to figure skating... but it could also be compared to skate boarding or snowboarding or any sport that is judged instead of decided by time or who crosses the finish line first. Hell it could even be related to football or baseball or soccer, you earn points depending on how well you perform (i.e. getting a goal or touchdown, for drifting it would be hitting a clipping point, pulling away from your opponent, having higher entry speed than the rest of the drivers, achieving steeper angle, taking the correct line etc).

Also I was just thinking. Most of you......people here dont know what Gymkhana is. Look it up on youtube or something but in that drifting is most often times the fastest way around the majority of the track. It's pretty much the same as autox but much more complicated (you actually have to memorize the course or you will suck). I see alot of you guy's talking about how drifting isnt a sport and blah blah blah. But you have to come to realize.... most people who legitamately drift dont care what you think,neither do the drag racers care what anyone thinks, or road racers, or autox'ers, or whatever'ers. I see road racers come to the track in little booty shorts and fanny packs with cut sleeves but you dont see people who drift all in their **** talking about oh you *** blah blah blah.

*** holes talking about tool this tool that. A tool is someone caught up in the mainstream (a tool of society or whatever) but there are more people who road race than drift, there are more people who drag race than drift so really who is the tool? Someone different or someone who wants to be like everyone else because thats what everyone else does?

WTF are you guy's scared of? I mean I actually enjoy the people who have valid things to say, but the retards that come on and base what they say from movies, or video games, or cartoons just need some damn seat time so they can learn wtf they are talking about instead of post bs.

Roen

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I guess the pet peeves that I have are the guys that come in and make drifting something it's not. come in, enjoy, post about your opinions, but be humble and don't say, "Look at me! I can drift faster with my slammed suspension and stretched tires than you can with a properly setup car!"

One of the reasons why I dislike it (minor reason, the major reason is the culture that drifting has taken on, but that's not really drifting's fault, that's reflective of some of the people who choose to participate in drifting.) is that effective drift setups are much slower around a track than a properly setup car. I'm a purist, and as such, I'm only interested in going as fast as I can against a clock and against other people.

It's very similar to the reason why I'm not a big fan of drag racing, because driving a car is more than just keeping the car straight, and putting all your power to the ground as fast as you can.

Don't get me wrong, I'll use many borrowed techniques from drifting and drag to get around the track faster, especially if I'm lining up to take a run on someone down the straightaway, because I saved some time in my shifting, I was able to get the nose out in front and gain prioirty for the corner. My trail braking actually developed from my braking drift initiation.

I think drifting's a good way to waste some tires, let off some steam, and have some fun. But that's all I think drifting should be, no more, no less.

afro88

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I thinks that what any motorsport should be. Any sport period. Just good old fashioned fun. When people start taking it too serious that takes the whole point of it away, but for me as long as I'm having fun then I wont leave no matter who gets into it. I know the people who take it too seriously are the people who leave and go to something else. Do something because you love it, not because everyone else does it...... thats my motto.

DevilEYEaM

Well unlike the average drift "fan", I do know what gymkhana and am very fond of watching and learning from it. I can even pronounce it.

Its already been said, but its all personal opinion. Just because you like drifting doesn't mean you are stupid or a ricer or part of the banwagon. Just as not liking it shouldn't make me want to hate you.

afro88

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I was talking about other motorsport enthusiasts not people who drift.

rx7fan1903

I'm here. Drifter for life.

Don't really practice anywhere yet, but there's a track not that far from the city, so once I get my 7 I plan to practice there

rx7fan1903

Actually, drifting isn't all that popular in America yet. Just because they made a movie about it doesn't mean that it's part of American pop culture

Why don't you flamers go somewhere else, already? That's the whole reason the forum guys made this section: you bastards wouldn't let up!! But now your flaming even in a section where you don't have to be!! If you don't like drifting, the GTFO!

Nobody's forcing this on you!! WTF?!?

DevilEYEaM

afro88: I wasn't talking to anyone particular. Just addressing the thread readers in general.

And anyone who isn't just on the bandwagon, who has done research and been into drifting for a while would know that drifting isn't a "new thing" at all. Its been around in Japan since the late 1960's and has a very interesting history.
I became interested in drifting far before Initial D or Tokyo Drift were out and the first time I saw a video of it, I stared at it with my jaw dropped for an hour and haven't looked back since.