This is ridiculous. I admit I was guilty of doing this once, then I started thinking about it, and reading into it a little bit more.

1. As a seller your ASKING price needs to include your overhead (aside from shipping which is a variable, not a constant rate) To tack on your fees is redundant, and quite simply insulting. If you want the 3% then state your price as your ASKING Price+3% and stop advertising the fact that you're charging the buyer YOUR surcharge obligation.

2. It's against PayPals Terms of Service to relay the surcharge to your buyer and will definitely get your account shut down should they investigate. (See 4.6 https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...receive-policy)

3. The fallout of account closures, should paypal actually take action, would be similar to what Carfax did when people were offering to run vins publicly on monthly unlimited accounts.

Thoughts?

 

1. who cares

2. **** paypal

3.who cares

paypal is a scam in its own... have you ever tried to use their heavily advertised "Buyer Protection"

 

1. I hate that **** too
2. eat the fees, its the cost of doing business

 

the buyer protection WILL ONLY work on ebay as to them is a legitimate proof that this transaction was made

 

Paypal is a racket, I can agree with that, but as shady as it is, it's still the only company out there that is doing what it does on the scale that it is.

I'd like to see google (or anyone else with the capital and not shady as hell reputation) come out with a service and undercut the **** out of them so they loose all of their customers.

But uh... yeah back OT.

 

There have been other recent discussions on this subject.

All sellers should state the price they want for an item and not put "Add 3.5% for paypal".
What other payment are members going to use? Money order? Check? So just state your asking price and be done with it!

As far as us enforcing the paypal rule. At this point we are not.

As I stated in another thread recently on this subject. You don't see this on ebay. The cost of doing business or selling is factored into your price. This is how it is done in the selling of goods. You don't see department stores asking for 3.5% extra because you are using your credit card, it is factored in the cost of goods!

 

The simplest thing to do is file a claim and report the person after they have charged you and you paid the Paypal fee and you have received the item.

This will stop idiots from doing this pretty damm quick. If they start getting that 3.5% charged back and out of their hands, it will stop this from happening.

 

Any further discussion?

 

Keith, you just made me really sad.

 

Sorry. It's going to happen.

 

I know, but it still sucks.

And as far as OP, why not just factor the % into your price, if the seller doesn't, well tough.

The equation:

Px1.03=T; where P=the asking price, in dollars, and T=the total, in dollars.

 

Yep. Tough for the seller when I spend my cash elsewhere for the same part. It's f'n annoying. If you don't think paypal has any influence over IB? Carfax already complained about Rx7club.com "condoning and facilitating the breach of its user agreement" (And if I still had a 1000PM Limit I'd directly quote the PM I got from Ryan on that) to the point that they shut down the VIN Check forum. I forsee this happening again as paypal tries to squeeze every last cent possible from the interweb.

 

Well, since it is actually against PayPal policies, the site needs to conform it seems, to stay out of trouble...I'd suggest reporting the threads or posts where you see this infraction so it can be dealt with like any violation thread. The journey to Rome begins with a single step.

I personally find the practice detestable.

Mario III

edit: ...also, be careful when ya get riled about something and speak up....that sig looks a bit on the big side there...

 

As I have stated before this is a "NO" Brainer. You just put the end price that you want and that's is what members pay whether they pay per paypal, cash, etc...


F1's signature is well within our revised guidelines. :-)

 

Funny, cause that sig is under the 600x200 limit

 

I usually space it when I set my price, then eat the 3% (or whatever they charge these days) when all's said and done.

http://images.google.com/url?source=...beQvFfnrx0v9OQ

 

thankfully more agree with me, last time I discussed this I had people telling me I was wrong and that the seller should not "lose" the money for the fees

 

IMO, I think it's the buyer's responsibility if they are sending a payment method which has a surcharge (i.e. credit card) to a non-business account. If there was a flat fee on all charges through Paypal, that would be one thing. But since their isn't, it should be the responsibility of the buyer if they are choosing a method of payment which has surcharges.

You can disagree with me, but you can't change my mind.

Just FYI, I walk the talk as I have (in the past) paid the extra as I believe that is the right thing to do. It was my choice not to use a cashier's check or some other means for payment that did not incur a surcharge when I had the opportunity.

In the end, all that's going to happen is people will either increase their prices (even for people who are not using Paypal), or they will choose not to support Paypal payments from credit cards.

 

Hey, when you're right, you're right...such is the suffering of the righteous!Sorry, I missed the update on the sigs getting stretched out...let me see if we got the other part of it taken care of regarding text...