Anyone else have the same opinion i do?
I suggest we all phone in Monday and show them that we have had it with the throttling, increase in prices and poor service!!!!!!!!!
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2...eutrality.html

 

Call and start bitching

 

I understand this only hurts the people who are using P2P but that is not the point!
We pay for the service and we should get it. Just because Bell went on a buying spree and bought out CBC they think now they can control the Canadian P2P sharing LMFAO! I dunno, i might just be taking our little "Grey area" for granted, but untill its against the law i will DL whatever i want!

 

Won't help, wait for parliament to fix it. ISP's don't care what the customers say about p2p. The only way anything is going to happen is if some law is passed where ISP's can't throttle internet traffic (ie, neutral internet) similiar to the Comcast (American ISP) cases going on now in the US where Comcast is losing.

thewird

 

Something else i was
This cap applies to "ALL" encrypted packs so does this mean VOIP/Skype will not work proper?

 

They only care about your torrents wasting valuable upload. I wouldn't worry about anything else unless it uses some weird protocols.

thewird

 

I think that we should be extremely vocal about this. Parliament is creature that reacts strongly to public pressure. That's how law and policy is changed. A host on CBC had pointed out that the fact that CBC's delivery of an upcoming show may/will be greatly affected by this new initiative. He went on to say that the fact that CBC's (and therefore the government's) mandate is to offer the tax paying members of the public, delivery of it's content through all means of media to allow for full accessibility. The CRCT's silence on the issue may already be a violation of this mandate.
Bell spokesman Jason Laszlo said there has been no backlash from customers. I say prove to him that that is NOT the situation. I for one will be contacting Bell, Rogers, and my local MPP with my concerns. I will also be contacting New Democrat MP Charlie Angus and letting him know that I support his efforts in this matter.

 

they aren't throttling everything, just peer to peer.

I can't even get 30k.

also, bell is scum, this shouldn't surprise you.

 

at least they don't have monthly bandwidth limits like rogers does.
bell DSL used 2 be great till this s***t.

 

Bell does have monthly limits but they're resellers don't (most of the time).

thewird

 

Primus offers highspeed service now too.....i should look into them.....or just start sleeping earlier so i'm not on the net at 1AM :S

 

If its DSL its Bell, doesn't matter the provider.

thewird

 

thewird,
hand me my thinking grenades!

 

So what's the best way to get the message to them?

Calling to complain won't work if you get the Sympatico Billing or Technical help desks. I know, I used to work for the technical support department for Sympatico. Even when most of it *wasn't* based in India, it was impossible to get any real message through. I worked there and couldn't even get my line serviced properly.

If anyone knows the appropriate place to contact to send complaints and actually have them get somewhere, let me know. I for one find this to be incredibly unfair because a lot of LEGAL material is distributed via bittorrent. Try reinstalling World of Warcraft and downloading all the updates with this throttling on? What about all the various Linux ISOs and material that I grab via bittorrent?

The worst part is that you can't even count on the marketplace to sort things out - in some places alternative broadband connections are not available so you can't just say "Well if Bell customers don't like it they can switch to another provider to show their dissatisfaction"

Jon

 

I'm with Execulink, and have had nothing but good results with them without this BS. You can even get Phone, and Cable tv through them, and you can have the choise of Cable Internet or DSL internet. I have VoIP phone and DSL from them. Don't have cable just use satellite.

 

I myself have already takin the road of having my internet switched to teksavvy, and today i will be calling and have my phone switched over too!
Also will be calling all these #'s and writing a big long letter to the MP

Bell Executive Office of Customer Relations 1-866-317-3382

John Sweeney
Senior Vice President
Carrier Services

Bell Canada
Floor 6N
483 Bay Street
Toronto, Ontario M5G 2C9

Telephone: 416-353-7225
Fax: 416-977-3557
john.sweeney@bell.ca

FILL THOSE BASTARDS EMAIL BOX"S AND VOICE MAIL!!!!

 

oh snap i just called Telephone: 416-353-7225 (direct line to John Sweeny) and his voicemail gave me his cell # here it is folks! bug the **** outa him!
416-420-5819
BTW: I just spoke with his secretary and she stated he would not be in the office until late Thursday!
Also there are MANY threads that have been started over on dslreports.com find your ISP providers thread and complain there! That is where teksavvy told me the appropriate place to take action would be!

 

.. it's not just BT/P2P FILE SHARING, this includes streaming video, and online gaming networks even listening to music in anything over a 64kb format.. It pretty much kills off the use of any new internet technology usage in the last 2-3 years. But at least DSL is STILL better then rogers cable.. rogers truly sucks for anything but the most basic surfing..

 

I prefer Rogers over Bell DSL lol. Its so much better. They throttle BT but everything else is full speed. Maybe you had a bad wire. I have both though because I need a backup.

thewird

 

Problem is switching to another ISP doesn't resolve anything if the ISP is leasing from Bell.

Bell is doing more than killing torrents, they are shaping traffic for all clients:

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2...tech-bell.html

 

Bell? What is this Bell? Buhahah I love the boonies some times, none of this nonsense unless you go out of your way to sign up.

 

Great news for all the old DEMONOID users, ITS BACK UP AND RUNNING for us Canadians! Same ratio and everything! So use it while you still can.
And make sure to check out my list of torrents for some good NZ/AU tuner car movies once i get my seeds back in order! Some good rotor action in them.

 

Well, here it is! Finally a way past the throttle
worked for me on the Linux box and xp SP3 Utorrent 1.7.7 and 1.6.1
So give it a try and post your results! There is only 8 VERY simple steps to follow.

Download .PDF file here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xbypzvzsjsm

BTW: i had to reboot the modem and PC a couple times for thing to work out!

 

Just switch ISP's.

Gotta love this, when people are saying "digital downloads are the future! NO more discs! just download!" haha, **** that at 30k. Take a week to get a DVD or Blu-Ray quality. lol. Such BS, Microsoft are as smart as their OS is stable. (Microsoft is pushing the Digital Downloads)

 

definintly switch isps, that cap happened to alot of ppl i know,
except most of them were capped at 50
the only thing dell beats rogers at is customer service, but i dont even know about that anymore