rick_tj

I know I do. After hearing a sickening story on Global tonight, I got upset.

I've decided to do something about this.

I've made a petition at petitiononline. I know animals everywhere need help, and we need to give it to them.

Please sign this petition, for all of them.

http://www.petitiononline.com/2563830/petition.html

ekk20

will do taht now! i somehow have a passion for all living things except bees and snakes and spiders.

JDK

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Animal abusers need to be beat with a baseball bat…

Sizzlenut

Signed... What did you see on Global?

The big one's mine- he's my first born. The little guy's a friends'.

rick_tj

A family came home, to find their family cat on their front porch. The cat was one side, and the cat's tail was on the other. It was completely separated from the cat. Nerves were exposed. The vet said there was nothing that could be done, and put the cat down. Now one more family is devastated because of something senseless that didn't need to happen.

likeadrug

While I agree with the sentiment, trying to stipulate that anyone affiliated with the abuser should also be punished is idiotic.

If you adjust the proposed 'penalty' then I'm sure you will get many more signatures.

misterstyx69

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What gets me is that some people Refer to their animals as KIDS.which is in a Way True.You watch them Grow,teach them,Feed them,Live with them,and they in turn Provide you Unconditional Affection,In their own animal-like way.So if the person is Neglecting thier animal,it is Like Child abuse..they should not just be slapped on the wrist and say they can't own an animal for three years(example).That's a Joke.They should face Consequences such as Jail..Working in an Animal hospital,Seeing first hand what some Idiot tried to do to cats with a can of Gas and a lighter...would you do that to Your Child??..NO!..responsibility is Shirked by those people that should have Learned Responsibility,and Went to school instead of being high in their basement,family too busy to take time to Fix their inner sanctum....I am Ranting here..but I think you get the drift..you Touch MY Animal,I will go to the LIMIT..to Protect My animal..it is like I said Family.I lost my Dad..I won't loose my DOG!.,Thanks guys even if you just skipped over this.STYX!~

Unseen24-7

I hate animal Activists and Activist groups like PETA.

PETA CAN DIE!!

Don't get me wrong, i love animals, i own a cat, and i agree that mistreating animals is wrong...

But there are WAAAAAAAYYYY more important issues that people should be spending their time and money one. The simple fact is aminals are below people and i think activists have forgetten that.

7_rocket

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Unseen24-7

I sincerely hope that you do not believe animals to be equal to humans.

Even considering animals to be EQUAL to humans is ridiculous, and if that is what you believe i suggest you take a step back and re-evaluate your thinking.

ScrappyDoo

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We all share the same air, water etc. If we had equal respect for all things living then we wouldn't be in the current climate crisis. I don't think anyone is suggesting that you set a place for your cat or dog at the dinner table but recognize that they have as much of a right to be here on the planet as you. If a more intelligent being exists out in the universe and decided to drop in on earth, we would be relegated to the position of cows and chickens on earth. If they started putting a blunt bolt through our foreheads as a fast means of killing us for food you may change your current position.

Howi

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If we're talking animals, I think we have a much larger and disturbing issue, but often overlooked/ignored, than people who abuse their pets.

Why is it accepted, legal, to hunt? Gaming is nothing more than hurting/killing of other animals for personal pleasure. I see TV shows about moose hunting, as if it's any other hobby such as cars. I see racks and racks of hunting guns/rifles sold in Bass Pro Mills, along with other merchandises. Think about the number of people that go to their cottages, national parks to hunt every weekend or long weekend nation wide, and the amount wildlife being abused/killed legally for pleasure. Now compare the number to the relatively few pets that are abused.

Someone please enlighten me, what makes gaming ok, but animal abusers not.

Is it the simple fact of dogs/cats are considered as pets to humans? Is that where they draw the line? It's ok to go shoot moose all day long just because they're not domesticated pets?

What I'm trying to say is, when people find a dog/cat that's been abused, it makes it to the news. But when was the last time you saw a news article on "moose/duck/geese/bird abusers," with people raging over it?

This is horseshit to me. If people want to rant about pet abusers and regulate it, then they should do the same with wildlife. If they for some reason think wildlife is ok to be abused, then pets should get no different treament.

This is double standards. Hypocrisy.

Howi

ScrappyDoo

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^^^well said

7_rocket

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Me thinks your smart

Unseen24-7

First off hunting is animal population control. Plarks that have banned hunting are now overrun with preiously hunted wildlife to the point that it is becoming a sefety issue to...people.

Secondly Hunting (rifle, muzzleloader, bow), is extremely humane. The animals typically die within mere seconds, explain to me how that is worse than being torn to pieces by pack of timberwolves, which can take up to 15 minutes before the animal dies. In fact i could explain in detail how the wolves maliciously destroy the prey.

We're not banning wolves...

ourxseven

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this is a no win topic for sure , but what the hell , heres my 0.02$

i wonder if you get this emotional when you are BBQ ing that dead animal you bought at the grocery store . biology lesson 101, animals kill animals. its OK , city life just makes it easy to ignore. I went hunting once at it was not for me, but I don't have a problem with it. We'd all be dead without hunters and farmers.

Abusing anyone or anything for some twisted satisfaction is evil and should be punished severely. But I sure wish people weren't afraid to be strong enough to teach and "discipline" their pets that bark their faces off and **** whereever they want, or not freak out when they see someone else trying to teach their pets or kids some manners / behaviour. Thats not abuse, its setting boundaries.

WHO

Is feeding coolant to cats bad? We have a big alley cats problem in town. It was even showcased on the news how it's becoming hazardous.
Especially around 1st of July National Moving Day in Quebec, everyone just moves out abandoning their cats which all become alley cats. Bog health issue.

I've thought I could fix the problem, at least locally, by feeding them prestone. The thing is, they keep scratching my FDs paint and pissing on it, and all the cat repelant stuff I tried hasn't worked.

gkarmadi

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I do against animal cruelty....(meaning torturing/inflict suferring to animal), but i do love chickens (specially if they are deep fried).

Are you guys (the animal lover) vegietarians??

Nismo Convert86

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I concur, on the way to work I see 10 deer minimum, you want to see what they do to a vehicle come on over, there is at least one person on the side of the road daily with bambi on their hood.

I have no problem shooting, or fishing for game, they removed the spring Bear hunt now we have bears around here, how would you feel if your family dog was eaten by a bear? I bet shitty, it's the bear or the dog. When people are removed from the problem they forget all about it. A nuisance animal to people from the city is a raccoon, or a fox, eating garbage, when they start costing you money because of insurance you will change your tune.

If you think hunting and fishing is so wrong; why are you in Bass Pro?

You can't just go shoot stuff ***** nilly, they have seasons for it, if you get caught poaching you face HUGE jail time, and fines, you got there in your car? Ok we'll take that. You have the poached meat in your freezer at home? We'll take your house too. People don't just go around shooting things.

Cheers,

Redneck Kevin

Edit: BTW I am a HUGE animal lover, don't have a pet at the moment because I like having time to do what I please. And some taste reallyyyyyyyyyyy good too.

2nd Edit: Just so you know why do you think we have Child Protective Services? The SPCA came first, they figured if animals were being abused the kids were too.

3rd Edit: And the wild animals are much better eating, not these chemical milk shakes that the farms have to grow for productions.

gio64

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I signed it and agree.
I don't eat meat, but I do eat fish.
Make what you like of it...
But thanks for the opportunity.
Giovanni

rd_turbo

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I think the point of the thread, along with the emotions it evoked and the responses that followed, has been made. It upset rick _tj enough to make his views known and attempt to get others' support. I love animals, I have a dog and have had several dogs and cats over the years. My dog turned 6 yesterday and I keep track not because I think he’s a child, but because he’s part of the family and household and deserves to be acknowledged. While growing up in Eastern Europe, I've witnessed unspeakable cruelty to animals. No one here disagrees that performing acts of cruelty to animals of any kind is wrong. (Just as an aside, I'm not sure when it became more acceptable to torture cats, but that seems to be a lot more common than abuse toward any other animal). I personally had two cats that were abused by people in my neighbourhood, one survived and one was eventually chased into the path of a car and got run over. When we got home, the cat was nowhere to be found and the losers that did that sat on their porch drinking beer watching us look for our cat for 3 days....very classy indeed. I wonder what jail their *** is getting lubed in these days.

Regarding hunting, I worked in Northern Michigan for a number of years and, needless to say, was there for hunting season. I have friends who hunt. They all agree that while hunting has its animal control benefits, like anything there are good hunters and bad hunters who are not necessarily good shots. The animal is then wounded, scared and in some cases still strong enough to run off in the woods. Death comes after days of agony or in some cases a week or two when they finally succumb from the infected wound. Death from starvation, cold weather or mauling is equally agonizing. Everything tends to follow some form of balance in life. You can’t have one without the other. Our actions shouldn’t be without consequences and if our actions go against the laws of the land or the unwritten laws of the moral majority, then someone needs to take a position and I think that that’s what rick_tj was trying to do. This is my rant….sorry if a tad long

BENDER420

Signed!!! These are my 3 babies, Silver tabby-Tonka / Brown tabby-littleman / tortoise shell- babygirl AKA the Bitch lol

BENDER420

Cant forget Yoda and Ratfink!!

Latin270

I like animals too but damn lets not get carried away here! No hunting? Let me guess you dont like guns either?

Cidley's RX7

I was going to skip this thread, but here's my thoughts. It seems that people in our society today like to blame everyone else but themselves. Take some responsibility.

A domesticated animal is just that. It's abhorrent that some sicko's torture these cat's..but why are these cat's freely roaming about populous areas? We keep our dog's in our fenced yard. We walk them in public leashed. I don't care how well trained your dog is..keep it leashed, and carry bags for it's poop.

Same for cats. Keep them on your yard or in your house. This family's cat would still be alive if they had locked it in the house. I'm tired of our neighbors cat creeping around our front yard, digging and crapping in our flower gardens, and causing our one dog to freak out at the window every time she see's it. And we have a bylaw that states basically the same for cat owners..but these owner's feel it's ok to ignore it as it seems a majority in town do. I feel for the animal, but I have no sympathy for little Jenny who's cat has gone missing. They are family..take care of them.

Unfortunately, unlike a drivers license, anyone can get a pet without much oversight Some people shouldn't be allowed to own pets. Could say that some people shouldn't be allowed to breed, but that's overstepping basic human rights I suppose

End of my rant.