Just looking for some input. As the tiltle says, my engine needs a rebuild (2 blown seals in rear housing). Here is a list of what my car has, let me know what you guys think. It's a 93 R1 with approx. 73000 miles.

Engine:
PFS stock mount intercooler
Pettit cold air intakes, pulley kit and AST
Greddy electronic boot controller
Racing Beat dual tip along with downpipe
Cleaned and anodize coated oil coolers (April 07)
Used tranny with no grinds (unknown mileage)
ACT clutch and pressure plate with 512 lb/ft capacity
Power FC (no commander)

Exterior:
New paint in April of 07 (VR)
C-west replica body kit
Scoot replica hood
99 spec tail lights (real)

Interior:
Pettit steering column boost guage
digital oil temp, water temp, and fuel pressure gauges
6 point roll cage (I believe it's a 6 point) has harnesses
JVC CD player

Brakes/Wheels/Suspension
Black powder coated OEM wheels
Rotora cross drilled and slotted rotors
Stainless brake lines
Axxiss brake pads
Falken 451 tires les than 5000 miles
Tokico illumina shocks with lowering springs (unknown)
Rebuilt front and rear calipers (05)

That is all I can think of right know. I currently don't have any pics but I would post them if I go ahead with the sale. Thanks guys.

 

Hey, good to see more people in the HRM with RX7's!! Too bad you are selling.

Value will kind of depend on aa few more things. One of the things that will hurt you is that the car is in Halifax and no one around here knows how to work on them let alone rebuild the engine. Not to mention there isn't as much demand for these cars around here anyway. If it is LHD than you can probably get 10k-12k for it strictly as a guess, and probably 6k-8k for a RHD. I wouldn't be surprised if the end buyer would be someone in Ontario too rather than local.

Craig

 

Thanks Craiger, it's an American LHD.

 

Get it rebuilt or put another motor in. Non running cars just don't sell. (I speak from experience.)

Since you can get working RHD's for $6-8k I doubt it would be worth nearly that much as a blown motor car (RHD).

As an LHD car it really depends on condition. I think that as-is non running 10-12k+ though would be dreaming. A reallly good dream.

Your best bet is to just get it running.

 

Ok, so it is worth the upper probably then. If you want a more accurate estimate, look and see what rolling chassis are worth in Ontario, consider the mid to upper price level since yours has some decient upgrades, and then take $2k or so off (to account for it needing to be shipped).

If your at all interested in keeping the car and rebuilding the engine, fire me a PM or something and I will be more than willing to get you headed in the right direction and lend a hand. I have preformed a rotary rebuild in the past so I at least have a general idea where everything goes!!

P.S. This isn't the car that was at Raven Autosports for a few months is it?

 

Very sorry to hear that your motor went. It's a lot of work. I know since I replaced the motor in mine. But it works! I hope you figure out a solution. We never got together yet. Unfortunately I'm moving in two weeks so there will be one less FD in the HRM.

 

Craiger:
I would love nothing more to get the engine rebuilt but I just don't have the know how. I recently got some quotes to get it rebuilt but the worst thing is that I would have to pay someone to remove and install it for me. I'll see what happens, I would atleast like to get the engine removed just to get a look at it. My car wasn't the one at Raven, how is James doing anyways?

Nova7:
I guess I seen it coming, considering the engines we all have under the hood. Too bad your moving, where to? Hope the move goes well. I'll figure something out.

Terrh:
Thanks for the words of wisdom. I would like to think my car is in above average condition other than a slight engine problem (HAHA), I have paper work for most of the car's life (starting @ 600 miles), I never drove it in the rain etc. Tried to take very good care of it during the 3.5 years I've had it.

 

Any competent mechanic with an open mind can work on your car. They're complex machines but so are many other cars. And once you get all the crap off the engine it's SIMPLE to rebuild/replace.

You might consider buying a used JDM engine for around $2000 and having that installed. That makes everything simpler and your engine is probably still worth $500 in parts (complete) OR is at least worth something to you if anything external fails on the new motor, down the road.

I really think that of all cars, in rx-7's having the original motor in it matters very little as far as value, besides it can't be proven anyways as there are no "numbers" to be matching.

 

I did what Terrh just suggested, i.e., put in a JDM engine. Cost me 1800 shipped from Scarborough. I happend to be in the area however and went and watched them do a compression test, as well as that can be done with a cold engine sitting on the floor. But it looked good and so far is working fine. Of course i have no idea how many KMs are on the engine. All I know is it works!

If I weren't moving I'd be happy to help you pull the engine. If you follow the FSM it's not really that hard. I bought mine with the engine already out. A local mechanic had removed it leaving the transmission in place. He seemed to do a good job. You might contact Redshift. He just pulled and replace the motor on his 2nd gen race car. He had some help. It's all similar. Rotary Resurrection also has some tips and pics on their site. I plan to rebuild my orginal engine when I get some time. Being in Ontario will make it easier since I'll have access to more shops and parts.

Good luck.

 

It won't be the same without Dave (Nova7) around anymore, but we'll try to carry on without him when it comes to keeping these things on the road. (BTW Dave, did you still need those spark plugs?)
The rip and replace of my engine and tranny was a bit easier given the fact that it's a race car and doesn't have a lot of "extras" on it, but also, we did it in an hour or two.

With a few people who have some idea what they are doing (Craiger, looks like we have another project) and the FSM, doing it in a weekend shouldn't be that hard.

I had Joe at RPM build my FC motor, then shipped it down (cost about $200) and did the swap.

More than willing to help get the car back on the road. In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that I'm moving into a new house in 2 weeks, I'd actually probably want to buy it. My plan was to buy an R1 or R2 project in the next 18 months or so. So, since I'm not in the position to buy it at the moment, I might as well try to help save it.

The upside is, my new house has a big garage, and I have a car-hauler trailer if we need to move the car.

 

Pulling one of these engines is sooooooo easy!!! If you want to pull the engine I bet we could find someone willing to lend a crane and we can pull it in about 2 hours.

Once the engine is out, pulling it apart will take another hour or two and then you can evaluate the situation. If you want to rebuild it after that, I guarentee you we can do a successful rebuild. If you decide not to for whatever reson, you have not effected the value of the car.

There are sooo few of these around here i'd hate to see another one go. If you want to rebuild it, most of the work will be in cleaning the parts, and Redshift and I will be able to take care of any of the specific knowledge needed... which in fact all that is really needed is written in the FSM. I don't know what you've been quoted for a rebuild, but if you want i'm sure we can have this back on the road for a fraction of what you've been quoted.

I'm in Lower Sackville and I'm back and forth between here and Halifax all the time. I'll PM you my phone number if you want to give me a buzz and talk about what will need to be done.

Craig

 

I have easy access to an engine hoist. The one I borrowed to do my engine is literally over the hill from my new house.

The other advice I would give us, don't budget for just the engine rebuild. There are a few things that are way easier to do at this time, instead of later. i.e. chances are engine mounts are pretty tired, replace the vacuum lines and hoses while you can get at everything, maybe a clutch etc.
Nothing HUGE, but takes almost no time to do with the engine out of the car by comparison.

 

Oh, and to answer the original question, from what I've seen running cars going for lately (i.e. the silver one in CDN for sale for $11,500), the drop in the $USD (since your car is a US car, it goes down with them) I would say between $8K and $10K (hard to say without pictures) since your car has already been imported.

 

Terrh: Thanks for the advise, I'm probably going to remove the engine and than cosider my options after I found out what shape it's in.

Craiger: I'll give you a call this weekend.

Redshft: Thanks for offering your expertice,that being said, do you need a hand with the move? It's the least I could do. I have a truck and access to a descent size trailer.

Nova7: Hope the move goes well and you enjoy upper Canada. Who know but we may run into each other b4 you take off.

 

It'd be really cool if we all met before I left. Another guy has been wanting to get a local RX-7 club/group together for a long time. It just hasn't happened which is too bad.

 

If you would like to get together we could go and shoot some pool or something like that, get some of the other guys to come and just shoot the ****.

 

I'm game for a Halifax Rotorhead get together. Always good to meet more local people. Topics of discussion can include how to convince the DMV that there are zero cyclinders in our cars, how Honda owners think our engines are super complicated, and how rear wheel drive rocks!!! We can also at the same time prove that people who own real sports cars in Halifax can actually gather without getting the police called on them... unlike Lowmotion meets.

Anyway, i'm game just about any time other than this weekend.

Craig

 

In true RX7 style, I was thinking some meets might take the form of the "install party" where we gather at somebody's garage, work on some peoples cars, and throw something on the BBQ.
I'm out of the country most of June, but should be around on weekends.
Hauling the race car out to the track tomorrow to try and finish breaking it in. Should be there from around 11:00 or so if anybody wants to have the next "work on an RX7" gathering.

 

...or not... last task tonight before I loaded the car was to bleed the brakes. Bleeder screw stripped the right front caliper... stupid cars...

 

What do you guys say we try to set something up for this week or weekend, I am just not available saturday night, my ball team is having a pool/poker fundraiser?

 

I can do Thursday, after 8 or so Friday, and most of the weekend. Looks like we have some work to do on Dave's car... lol, so who knows dave, maybe we'll incorporate that into our gathering.

 

First race of the year is this weekend. Not sure how available I'll be for "other" stuff, but if you want true RX-7 stuff, come check the paddock out at AMP and you'll probably see my feet sticking out from under the car.

New brake caliper is due at 8:30 tomorrow morning, bolting it on the car, loading her on the trailer and hauling it over to the new house (assuming the bank gets it's act together.) Other than that Craig, she should be good to go. Exhaust is fixed, Taylor fabricated a skid-plate for it, and the gauges (less the tach) are all installed.
Not sure we'll be running too hard on race day as we might still be breaking in the motor, but judging from the number of cars that don't seem to be ready yet, I think we could still be running "break-in" RPMs on Sunday and still score some points.

 

How does friday night sound, say around 8pm. We could meet at any Dooly's in town, somewhere central. I'm in Bedford so I'm pretty close to most.

 

I'm game, I should be in town anyway. Which Dooleys are you talking about though, I used to go to the one on Barrington a couple years ago but it's closed now so I guess we won't be going there... lol.

Craig

 

Sorry I missed all you guys. I'm in Kitchener now. Had a good trip in my 7. People drive fast here! And it's always amusing how many guys want to race a little when they see you on the road! Good luck at the track Dave!