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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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Well here is my build thread for my new car. The Jap ratrod has been sent to scrap and should be fridges in no time at all. The goal for this car is to look stockish (other than a Vmount hood), quiet, and very fast.

To build any worth while car, you have to start with a good body, and I found just that on KIJIJI, he was asking $3500 to start, but after some very good negotiating with a nice example of a FC present; Buggy and I drove this thing away for $1200. It's a stock 1986 GXL, with only 117855KM's on it, it was in a minor fender bender at some point in it's life because the bumper, and driver side fender were replaced, now it just has a minor fitment issue with the bumper, I'm sure that can be fixed relatively easy by Classicauto when it get sent there sometime next year.

Here is what the car currently looks like:




Minor misalignment from fender bender:

No rust in the quarters:



Looks like someone pried the lock:

Sunroof with minor rust like every FC:

I guess it got stuck or pushed a lot, nice palm dents:

Clean interior:


Need two pages to make the forum happy!

I will update this as work progresses.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Continued...

Yay!!!:

Engine Bay:


Now for the drivetrain, the stock N/A drive line is getting swapped out for TII setup, (Buggy might part it out but you would have to ask him because he is the owner of the N/A stuff) it's going to be powered by a 13B RE with a Haltech E6X, and some sort of Garrett turbo. I am hoping for 375-400 wheel horsepower at 12-15psi.

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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Great price, looks in good shape for its age! Well done!
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Thanks, I did only pay $300 for the RE as well!!
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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I'm excited! It was a good buy.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Thanks, I did only pay $300 for the RE as well!!
Damn! you even scored a better deal than I did for my REW!
Does it run or is she pooched?
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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It was in Pieces, a but had a good housing and Rotor, it's just assembled there so when ever I get RE mounts, I can start fitting it in the car, and get the Vmount; set up.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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I'm excited! It was a good buy.
Me too!!
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Me too!!
Well someone has to show me around the track
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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nice, clean and straight car
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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With a street port on that RE (especially the exhaust ports!) and a 35R .96, you should have your 400 RWHP at around 16 PSI and boost will come on like a freight train before 3000 RPM.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
With a street port on that RE (especially the exhaust ports!) and a 35R .96, you should have your 400 RWHP at around 16 PSI and boost will come on like a freight train before 3000 RPM.
I was told this turbo made 374 at the wheels at 10-11psi, and that was with a Massive exhaust leak on a TII.

I have swapped the sleeves, and the engine will keep stock ports, there is no need to do anything silly, it should run like a single turbo FD, and they can last a long time with some good tuning.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Keep us updated on the progress. I love reading complete build up threads. I keep toying with the idea of getting another FC. But I want to finish the Fiat first.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo Convert86
I was told this turbo made 374 at the wheels at 10-11psi, and that was with a Massive exhaust leak on a TII.
I'm not so sure about that.

I just checked the compressor maps. About 40 LBs/Min is needed to make that kind of power on a 13B, and the 35R is around 30 LBs/Min at that boost pressure at around 80% efficiency. Efficiency is good but not enough air.

I tuned a 35R on an RE this spring. Granted, he had stock exhaust ports and a small hotside (you could really see the VE drop off after 5.5K), but it took 19 PSI to get 380 to the wheels. I think at 15-16 PSI it was around 320.

I have swapped the sleeves, and the engine will keep stock ports, there is no need to do anything silly, it should run like a single turbo FD, and they can last a long time with some good tuning.
That's probably a good approach. Now that I think about it, the intake ports are big enough and with the largest restriction out of the way (those stupid sleeves!) the improvement would be dramatic.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
I'm not so sure about that.

I just checked the compressor maps. About 40 LBs/Min is needed to make that kind of power on a 13B, and the 35R is around 30 LBs/Min at that boost pressure at around 80% efficiency. Efficiency is good but not enough air.

I tuned a 35R on an RE this spring. Granted, he had stock exhaust ports and a small hotside (you could really see the VE drop off after 5.5K), but it took 19 PSI to get 380 to the wheels. I think at 15-16 PSI it was around 320.



That's probably a good approach. Now that I think about it, the intake ports are big enough and with the largest restriction out of the way (those stupid sleeves!) the improvement would be dramatic.
Well that's what I was told it's not a gt35 it's similar, its likely a T something or other... It's a Air Research so it's an oldr piece.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were swapping the turbo shown in the picture for something else.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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so freakin awesome. car looks fantastic. i really like this one. im keeping my eye on this thread!
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were swapping the turbo shown in the picture for something else.
Nope, old school for me for now... Might go with a 40r in the future, it's a T4 footprint so I can grow with all my parts, it's nice to be able to do such a thing!!

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so freakin awesome. car looks fantastic. i really like this one. im keeping my eye on this thread!
Thanks, I promise this thread and car will not disappoint. I am exited, I have never had a RX7 this clean, so it will be done right!
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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looks like you got a better deal than me! wanna trade? hahaha what are you going to do with those shocks/struts!! Dibs if buggy hasnt already
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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The way I would like to put together My Rx7, Start with a good solid shell and work up .

Is the shell going for paint this year ?
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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The way I would like to put together My Rx7, Start with a good solid shell and work up .

Is the shell going for paint this year ?
It might be, who knows...

I just got a call from the hall, so I should be able to start progressing on the project at least a little bit now.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Swapped the Stock Adjustable suspension out, and put in my Koni Yellows. Starting to depower the power rack at the moment as well as installing DTSS bushings.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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best of luck w/ the build,
cant wait to see your progress
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Well Another day into depowering the power rack, I haven't taken any pictures because I have been following this write up:

*******************************/rotary_forum/showthread.php?t=7900

It's really not hard to do, but it's my first time, and my boots were molested so I'll be getting them on Monday, I'm sure I can do this for some other forum member if they want it done.

Apparently I can't post other rotary forums on this forum... Thats classy!!!

Just delete the spaces, and put in a period,

http:// www *dot* rotarycarclub *dot* com/rotary_forum/showthread.php?t=7900
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Disassembled my rear subframe today, needs one new wheel bearing so it's getting both, I also made a new lower arm bar, its amazing what you can do with some 1" round tubing and a press in the basement. Pics are coming of the lower arm bar, it's just drying.
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