rotary specialty shop needed near Toronto?
12-21-05, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by doridori-rx7
Part of th reason allot o shops have a bad 'rap' is because most of the good shops are out of business..
Part of the reason I don't go to Mazdees cause its on the other side of the continent. I'm desperately trying to find a rotary specialist in the westend. I won't and refuse to over pay for perdiocial maintence such as brakes or oil changes, but for rebuilt engines,tuning and installation of performance parts I'm willing to dish money to get the job done right.
If theres a shop that offers the same quality like Mazdees in the westend it will do well and weed out all the bad shops.
12-22-05, 03:02 PM
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hence why I said " ...NOT ALL mind you but a large percentage...", hell I've got 2 20B's in my shop right now.. waiting on JDM FD's to be shipped in, So I've got customers that fall into the above qualifier.. however that's a few from a very large pool that what allot done for nothing most of the time.. this doesn't just mean rotary but over all ' tunning' in general in Ont.
Originally Posted by Jimmynguyen
trust me doridori-rx7 i spent alot of $$$. The forum helped me more then all these shop i been to. i never complained about the money. i just want my car to run perfect. i lay thousands and thousands but all i c is a bunch of **** talking shops. But it's cool, ill just wait for the right person. most shops are all about $$$. ya ya they need to eat too but yo stand behind ur work. all the shops i've gone to,dont have what it takes to be called a performace shop. so what if they can do all the small little ****. how about the big ****. we own a part of history's best cars. so we need the best shop to do the best work on our beautiful cars. there's probably many ppl like me who dont know what to do with our cars, and thinking about selling it. hahahah, i m no car expert its ez to con a guy like me. but i m still not happy with the shops i;ve gone to. so karack if u do come, i hope u have skill. i might even help you open a business. i always wanted a perfromace shop. money isn't an issue. hahaha peace
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You've just proven a point I was making, you know a shop that does good work and has a good name but your unwilling to spend the time to go across the GTA to get to it.. obviously your choice but it simply says, that a good shop is less important to you then convience. Yet I have customers trailer their cars to me in Innisfil from Milton and further.
This is not a big deal I'm just laying out the realities as I and other shop onwers I've spoken to have seen and expressed. The guy deserves to hear about the good AND bad side of business in Ontario.
This is not a big deal I'm just laying out the realities as I and other shop onwers I've spoken to have seen and expressed. The guy deserves to hear about the good AND bad side of business in Ontario.
Originally Posted by CosmicButtHairs
I don't see Mazdees going out of business. I think most of the bad shops are giong under.
Part of the reason I don't go to Mazdees cause its on the other side of the continent. I'm desperately trying to find a rotary specialist in the westend. I won't and refuse to over pay for perdiocial maintence such as brakes or oil changes, but for rebuilt engines,tuning and installation of performance parts I'm willing to dish money to get the job done right.
If theres a shop that offers the same quality like Mazdees in the westend it will do well and weed out all the bad shops.
Part of the reason I don't go to Mazdees cause its on the other side of the continent. I'm desperately trying to find a rotary specialist in the westend. I won't and refuse to over pay for perdiocial maintence such as brakes or oil changes, but for rebuilt engines,tuning and installation of performance parts I'm willing to dish money to get the job done right.
If theres a shop that offers the same quality like Mazdees in the westend it will do well and weed out all the bad shops.
12-22-05, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by doridori-rx7
You've just proven a point I was making, you know a shop that does good work and has a good name but your unwilling to spend the time to go across the GTA to get to it.. obviously your choice but it simply says, that a good shop is less important to you then convience. Yet I have customers trailer their cars to me in Innisfil from Milton and further.
This is not a big deal I'm just laying out the realities as I and other shop onwers I've spoken to have seen and expressed. The guy deserves to hear about the good AND bad side of business in Ontario.
This is not a big deal I'm just laying out the realities as I and other shop onwers I've spoken to have seen and expressed. The guy deserves to hear about the good AND bad side of business in Ontario.
The reality is theres a lack of a good rotary shop in the westend thats trustworthy and if there ever was one, it would kick *** and pretty much monopolize the rotary work if they maintained a good rep.
12-22-05, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by doridori-rx7
hence why I said " ...NOT ALL mind you but a large percentage...", hell I've got 2 20B's in my shop right now.. waiting on JDM FD's to be shipped in, So I've got customers that fall into the above qualifier.. however that's a few from a very large pool that what allot done for nothing most of the time.. this doesn't just mean rotary but over all ' tunning' in general in Ont.
12-23-05, 01:41 AM
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i already realize with these cars you get a very wide variety of people, people who see it for face value and do not want to drop a lot of money into their cars and basically just want to keep it on the road for the least amount possible and those who see it as a performance vehicle and are willing to spend money for that gut feeling when you take a hard corner at WOT and feel a little light headed coming out of the turn. 
i try to work with all varieties of customers but like you said, quality does have a price and bills don't pay themselves. starting with a 0 rep in a new area is hard so it will be a tough decision.
i try to work with all varieties of customers but like you said, quality does have a price and bills don't pay themselves. starting with a 0 rep in a new area is hard so it will be a tough decision.
02-02-06, 11:21 PM
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what i find kind of funny is people complaining about driving across a city to go to a rotary-specialized shop.
when my car is out of storage for the 5 months or so of the year, i live about a 5-6 hour drive from Toronto. in fact i live so far away from anything or anyone rotary it sucks the big one...that means doing all the work myself. but that's the way i like it...plus i don't have the money to pay others to do work, lol
so yeah, another shop, especially a quality one, in Toronto would be great but is useless to all the people further up north...but alas that is the country of Canada for you.
good luck if you do decide to open shop Karack.
when my car is out of storage for the 5 months or so of the year, i live about a 5-6 hour drive from Toronto. in fact i live so far away from anything or anyone rotary it sucks the big one...that means doing all the work myself. but that's the way i like it...plus i don't have the money to pay others to do work, lol
so yeah, another shop, especially a quality one, in Toronto would be great but is useless to all the people further up north...but alas that is the country of Canada for you.
good luck if you do decide to open shop Karack.
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02-02-06, 11:27 PM
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doridori, consider yourself warned. No personal attacks or name calling. It's posted in the rules.
I don't care what the background behind you and B6T is. He didn't lash out at you in this thread, he only said he didn't want to mention the shop's name, which makes sense since the moderators here are often real buggers about advertisement.
I don't know what the "other forums" have allowed you guys to get into, but don't start **** here.
Karack is trying to get some honest opinion about the need for a shop here. He's trying to decide if he should uproot his LIFE and move to a different country to start a shop. Have some damned respect and keep your own petty fights out of this.
I'm cleaning up the thread, but I'm going to leave it open out of respect for Karack and what he's trying to do for you GTA guys.
Jon
I don't care what the background behind you and B6T is. He didn't lash out at you in this thread, he only said he didn't want to mention the shop's name, which makes sense since the moderators here are often real buggers about advertisement.
I don't know what the "other forums" have allowed you guys to get into, but don't start **** here.
Karack is trying to get some honest opinion about the need for a shop here. He's trying to decide if he should uproot his LIFE and move to a different country to start a shop. Have some damned respect and keep your own petty fights out of this.
I'm cleaning up the thread, but I'm going to leave it open out of respect for Karack and what he's trying to do for you GTA guys.
Jon
02-02-06, 11:40 PM
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Thats pretty good on timing Jon b'c I've beat you to It, as for cleaning It up.
If B6T chooses to Imply something and not back It up - why bother even posting It? (please don't reply)
doridori-rx7: your track record Is horrible on this forum and with a quick search and other posts that I have ran Into show the same for the club as a whole.
The next time you find It convenient to lash out and slander someone on any forum I moderate I will see to It that you are banned - again. With time passing I have found that I tend to warn others via PM's but with you finding the need to be outspoken I thought I'd do the same.
If B6T chooses to Imply something and not back It up - why bother even posting It? (please don't reply)
doridori-rx7: your track record Is horrible on this forum and with a quick search and other posts that I have ran Into show the same for the club as a whole.
The next time you find It convenient to lash out and slander someone on any forum I moderate I will see to It that you are banned - again. With time passing I have found that I tend to warn others via PM's but with you finding the need to be outspoken I thought I'd do the same.
02-03-06, 07:59 AM
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Just to add regarding opening another shop.
Toronto isn't the only place to consider when you have hamilton/halton region. Also areas where cost of living is cheaper. Please do some market research and who knows you might find yourself beside facility with a dyno and you won't need the extra capital.
Cheers,
Toronto isn't the only place to consider when you have hamilton/halton region. Also areas where cost of living is cheaper. Please do some market research and who knows you might find yourself beside facility with a dyno and you won't need the extra capital.
Cheers,
02-05-06, 02:17 AM
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thanks for the responses everyone, i know that the region does have to be specific to draw from a pool of people but the location is the thing, if i moved it would be because of a girl i know there and asking her to move would be out of the question as her family lives there and her job and house is there.
owning an RX7 often is an inconvenience and people willing to keep the inconvenience often will travel for their love of the rotary engine, i already have customers driving 4 hours or so to have me service their cars. it isn't something i wish for people to do but you can't be everywhere for everyone so finding a spot and sticking with it is something you have to do sometimes and people will come if the service warrants it. i live in a smaller town and skeptically i hoped business would come in and it has, often i am willing to drive out and pick up engines and deliver them to people out of my busy day so inconveniences are something i also am not unfamiliar with.
it still is up in the air whether anything will even happen but only time will tell.
owning an RX7 often is an inconvenience and people willing to keep the inconvenience often will travel for their love of the rotary engine, i already have customers driving 4 hours or so to have me service their cars. it isn't something i wish for people to do but you can't be everywhere for everyone so finding a spot and sticking with it is something you have to do sometimes and people will come if the service warrants it. i live in a smaller town and skeptically i hoped business would come in and it has, often i am willing to drive out and pick up engines and deliver them to people out of my busy day so inconveniences are something i also am not unfamiliar with.
it still is up in the air whether anything will even happen but only time will tell.
02-05-06, 07:58 AM
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I for one need to find a good shop. Now that I am older....yes..I can apprecaite good work and the extra costs that are sometimes involved. If you move here I would be interested in your shop (I am about 1-1.5 hours away from TO). Since you have announced your thoughts here I have noticed your posts more on the forum in general and you seem to be very knowledgable and you dont bite everyone who asks a dumb question (I have seen way to much of that these days even in this thread!). Good luck to you!
An intersting thing for some of us who park their cars in the winter would be to have a shop do some work during that downtime. If a shop had some type of larger garage then that would be possible (some would never let their cars sit outside in the snow for a few weeks). But then again, that is something that most of us could get around for good service.
Hurry up I have some work that I want done.......LOL
An intersting thing for some of us who park their cars in the winter would be to have a shop do some work during that downtime. If a shop had some type of larger garage then that would be possible (some would never let their cars sit outside in the snow for a few weeks). But then again, that is something that most of us could get around for good service.
Hurry up I have some work that I want done.......LOL
02-05-06, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Karack
thanks for the responses everyone, i know that the region does have to be specific to draw from a pool of people but the location is the thing, if i moved it would be because of a girl i know there and asking her to move would be out of the question as her family lives there and her job and house is there.
owning an RX7 often is an inconvenience and people willing to keep the inconvenience often will travel for their love of the rotary engine, i already have customers driving 4 hours or so to have me service their cars. it isn't something i wish for people to do but you can't be everywhere for everyone so finding a spot and sticking with it is something you have to do sometimes and people will come if the service warrants it. i live in a smaller town and skeptically i hoped business would come in and it has, often i am willing to drive out and pick up engines and deliver them to people out of my busy day so inconveniences are something i also am not unfamiliar with.
it still is up in the air whether anything will even happen but only time will tell.
owning an RX7 often is an inconvenience and people willing to keep the inconvenience often will travel for their love of the rotary engine, i already have customers driving 4 hours or so to have me service their cars. it isn't something i wish for people to do but you can't be everywhere for everyone so finding a spot and sticking with it is something you have to do sometimes and people will come if the service warrants it. i live in a smaller town and skeptically i hoped business would come in and it has, often i am willing to drive out and pick up engines and deliver them to people out of my busy day so inconveniences are something i also am not unfamiliar with.
it still is up in the air whether anything will even happen but only time will tell.
Starting a new shop should be fairly easy, Keeping in mind your fair and honest,
you should do well....pretty simple business practice really. It's like having a good restaurant, serve good food and you survive/ poison people and.....you get what I mean.
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02-05-06, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
thanks for the responses everyone, i know that the region does have to be specific to draw from a pool of people but the location is the thing, if i moved it would be because of a girl i know there and asking her to move would be out of the question as her family lives there and her job and house is there.
owning an RX7 often is an inconvenience and people willing to keep the inconvenience often will travel for their love of the rotary engine, i already have customers driving 4 hours or so to have me service their cars. it isn't something i wish for people to do but you can't be everywhere for everyone so finding a spot and sticking with it is something you have to do sometimes and people will come if the service warrants it. i live in a smaller town and skeptically i hoped business would come in and it has, often i am willing to drive out and pick up engines and deliver them to people out of my busy day so inconveniences are something i also am not unfamiliar with.
it still is up in the air whether anything will even happen but only time will tell.
owning an RX7 often is an inconvenience and people willing to keep the inconvenience often will travel for their love of the rotary engine, i already have customers driving 4 hours or so to have me service their cars. it isn't something i wish for people to do but you can't be everywhere for everyone so finding a spot and sticking with it is something you have to do sometimes and people will come if the service warrants it. i live in a smaller town and skeptically i hoped business would come in and it has, often i am willing to drive out and pick up engines and deliver them to people out of my busy day so inconveniences are something i also am not unfamiliar with.
it still is up in the air whether anything will even happen but only time will tell.
Holy crap!! you sound exactly like me!!
My shop is a good 2 hour drive from Toronto and yet people are willing to bring their stuff to me, and I'm willing to go out of my way to help some people within the GTA.
Really the only reason I choose to keep my shop waaay up here in the boons is because the cost of living is ALOT less than in Toronto and my overhead costs of ruinning a shop is also less.
PS hey winter39, I'm only 1.5 hr drive from you
02-05-06, 02:53 PM
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u guys r complaining there arent any good shops around besides mazdees. have u guys checked put Streetpower in Mississauga? ive had a few things done there and ive been pretty happy. Sean is a lot easier to deal with than Dave at Mazdees. His shop doesnt look as professional as mazdees but he does a pretty good job and if u have problems or questions, Sean will give u the time of day.
02-05-06, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrage7
His shop doesnt look as professional as mazdees but he does a pretty good job and if u have problems or questions, Sean will give u the time of day.
02-05-06, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo Convert86
I have heard otherwise about Streetpower. But it's hearsey, because I haven't experianced is, but it comes from a good source.
02-05-06, 03:47 PM
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Well there is the guy who told me about it.. I trust Charn, and if I hear one bad thing about a shop I'm not going, and plus I do all the work myself. If the Wiring in Charns old Vert was anything like the wring in my new car, I know how the new owner feels.
02-05-06, 08:53 PM
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LOL yeah Jim's right...here we go again!
We dont need to find out who has a beef with a certain shop, some people have their opinions about some shops. Lets not turn this into a shop bashing fest.
Winter39 - I do mostly deal with engine building, but also do engine swaps and general maintenance. My new shop location has alot more room to have serveral projects going at once, so send me a pm if you need some help.
Anyways, sorry about getting a little off track.......now what was this thread about again?
We dont need to find out who has a beef with a certain shop, some people have their opinions about some shops. Lets not turn this into a shop bashing fest.
Winter39 - I do mostly deal with engine building, but also do engine swaps and general maintenance. My new shop location has alot more room to have serveral projects going at once, so send me a pm if you need some help.
Anyways, sorry about getting a little off track.......now what was this thread about again?
02-05-06, 09:01 PM
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While you and Jim, are right Joe, I still think that people should be aware of shops that they have to be careful around. If people are allowed to rip someone off they will, I wouldn't necessarilly call Mazdees a rip off because the quality of work they do is great, but I think he has to realize comunication with potential clients is a must, the price of some of his maintenance, or work may be insane, but you know you will have a great end product.
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