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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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L-Spec, how much did you pay for your jdm fd and is it running good since you've had it, how many kms are on it, got any pics?
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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holy **** this thread is 9 pages now
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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I understand why your upset by this dude. But it does seem a bit silly. I mean you should be glad the group of people you can hang with that understand how the hell our cars work. I imported mine where i live it saved me over 10 grand and is in far better condition then the LHD in my area. I am glad I did it. I hope when i move out to alberta some day we could find a way to hang.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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I can totally see where LHD FD owners are coming from in terms of having more FD's on the road kind of taking away from the prestige of owning a FD. But the nice thing is that the RX-7 community should get bigger and hopefully there will be more resources around for the cars. Also there are soo many people scared of rotory engines that the FD's won't be catching on the same as the Skylines have. Plus in 1 year the Supras will be leagal for importation and all of the F&F fans will be getting those. Not FD's.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Exactly, LOTS of people dream about FD say there by far sexiest car out there but wouldnt want to touch due to tringle motor (...) . Just right now its one of the hottest cars to bring in.

Subarus are legal in a few months, evos and MKIV Supras so the whole rage of FDs will come down a bit.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Exclamation No Supras?

Originally Posted by Football22
Plus in 1 year the Supras will be leagal for importation and all of the F&F fans will be getting those. Not FD's.
Not to rain on anyones parade if they intend on getting a supra (or any other import) next year but TC is in the process of having the importation laws changed from 15yrs to 25yrs.

If any one would like to know more keep reading.

If this concerns anyone as much as it does me please see the following websites for further information.

IVOAC (Imported Vehicle Owners Association of Canada)
CAVI (Canadian Association Of Vehicle Importers)

The following are clif notes on this issue:
1. TC (Transport Canada) has noticed that the importation of vehicles has risen by 25% every year for the last 4 years, up to 60,000 vehicles at present.
2. TC presented research findings to all provincial transportation groups in June of 2006.
3. TC's findings didn't not prove that RHD or other imported vehicles were any more dangerous on our roads than USDM vehicles.
4. TC proposes a change to the import laws to change the acceptable age from 15 to 25 yrs when importing a vehicle, based on their opinion that RHD vehicles are dangerous on Canadain roads and on the thought that 15 year old cars are in terrible mechanical condition.
5. CAVI and IVOAC contact TC repeatedly to question why the change is proposed and provide assistance with researching any concerns TC has.
6. TC ignores CAVI and IVOAC until January of 2007.
7. CAVI and IVOAC are scheduled to present research and provide a rebuttal to TC and the provincial regulatory bodies at the CCMTA conference in Edmonton on May 13-17 2007.
8. TC invites the public to attend this event on the 17 when CAVI and IVOAC will be there to present.
9. Due to overwhelming contact from the general public TC revokes the invite and cancels the presentation by IVOAC and CAVI.

What TC plans to do at this time is not known. We are not sure if they will proceed with discussing this issue amongst themselves or if they are going to delay it another year to allow them time to collect information to support their argument.


If you are concerned and currently own an imported vehicle or would like to in the future please join IVOAC to assist in protecting Canadians freedom to own an imported vehicle.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Does anyone know if they will be grandfathering in the cars that have landed already? I don't see them being able to make a car that is legally imported now, illegal to insure once they pass the law.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JDM-FD3S
I imported a JDM FD3S Type R... It's a pleasure to drive! I normally would not have been able to own one because the asking price for North American models in Ontario was too high.




BEAUTIFUL CAR DOOD!
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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holy **** this thread is 9 pages now

10 coming up
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Football22
Does anyone know if they will be grandfathering in the cars that have landed already? I don't see them being able to make a car that is legally imported now, illegal to insure once they pass the law.
Any car that was already imported legally will not become illegal if/when this change is made.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Insurance rates are likely to soar through the roof if u are driving a car that is no longer considered legal to drive on Canadian roads

It has been posted on this forum that insuring a rhd car in Canada already has its problems.... even after it has passed an Out of Country Inspection

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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by smitter113fd
Insurance rates are likely to soar through the roof if u are driving a car that is no longer considered legal to drive on Canadian roads

It has been posted on this forum that insuring a rhd car in Canada already has its problems.... even after it has passed an Out of Country Inspection

I have not been on this forum for that long and did not see these posts. What problems are people having? The only difference/problem that insurance companies I deal with have with imported vehicles is the chassis code and that is specifically because the software they use will not allow them to enter anything but a 17 character VIN. They usually print of a pink slip manually in that case.

As for the rates increasing if (which will not happen) your imported vehicle was illegal, they would most likely not insure the vehicle for plpd and collision but only for theft/fire/vandalism. Not that it would matter in that case because the registry would not let you register it anyways.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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There was a post made by CTRL a month or so ago how he could not find an insurance company to insure his RHD TVR. I think in the end he did find one. but if Transportation Canada bans importing of these car u can bet the the insurance companies are also gonna tighten there rules and up the rates for these so called "Grandfathered" Rhd vehichles, making it harder and more expensive for people to insure them. I guess that is another chance an owner of one of these cars has to take, just like making a left hand turn at a busy intersection or passing on a single lane highway.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Actually I just got mine inssured sense it just arrived. long story short when i said it was rhd imported from japan my rate dropped 2000 a year because they said it was cheaper to get a new one for me. Mind you its still 3500 a year for full coverage sense i am 20. but still it was nice to recive a break when i was expecting a raise. mind you even if they change the importation laws the cars that are already here will be exempt from the change. Its like when they changed the rules for evicting a tenant i didn't have to let previously evicted people back in for the extra 2 weeks the new rules allowed. so way I figure we all have outstanding cars and are laughing weather its rhd or lhd I am interested in meeting rx7 owners after all its the driver not the car that matters.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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i just recently picked up a jdm fd through a company in edmonton after a long long hunt for a new car. i had gone through the options of a lhd fd, audi s4, nissan 350z and simply due to my age and the lack of lhd fd's for sale i was left with little option but to import. i just tried to stick with the fact that u get what u pay for and accepted the fact that to get an fd in good shape i was not going to be paying 10G, after several months and i mean months of hunting i finally purchased a silver fd with 39,400 km on it. ive been driving it for 3 weeks now and have not had a single reliability issue with it at all. today i even did a cruise to drumheller and back holding over 4500 for virtually the whole way and the car ran like a champ, simply because quality costs money.

as for jdm cars reducing the rarity of the car i can understand people being upset but people do crash and an influx of parts and new cars may not be all bad. those drivers who are irrisponsible will easily weed themselves out by not being able to maintain the engine and not being able to handle the car in a responsible manner and wrapping it arround a pole. so i say let people by them and without proper research let them pay the price. if you do have a clean and well maintained rx7 then yours will look that much better beside a car with dented fenders, mismatched wheels backfiring and shooting smoke.

and if they do learn from they're mistakes people who own lhd fd's will become an invaluable resource of experience and knowledge

thats just my .02
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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LHD FD's are overpriced here too. I saw a stock USDM FD for sale with low miles, from the description and pictures it was still stock. The guy was asking 34,000 for it. I wanted to remind him that they costed around 32,000 when they were BRAND NEW!!


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I don't personally own an FD as I could never afford one, from Canada. Sorry to all the owners of LHD canadian FD's, but they are grossly overpriced over here. For the amount of money you need to put into the car, you can make a FB or FC just as fast or faster and more reliable. At 20K for an OK 80K KM FD, its just not worth it for me. On the other hand, you can import a good JDM FD for about 10K in the same mileage range.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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i own a rhd fd from japan in the dominican republic. i love it, it came in mint condition, and with all kind of goodies like volk rays wheels, recaro seats, c-west bumper, etcc.... in my country no can,t get a lhd rx7. they are all in very bad condition or have been crashed.

the only is problem is that it is ilegal to drive a rhd car in my country. they requiere you to convert to lhd. the problem is that lhd dashes are not common,

why can't it be legal? like in your civilized country? damn dominicans!!
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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LHD FD's are overpriced here too. I saw a stock USDM FD for sale with low miles, from the description and pictures it was still stock. The guy was asking 34,000 for it. I wanted to remind him that they costed around 32,000 when they were BRAND NEW!!
i think they were more like 55,000 brand new, plus, money was worth more durin 1993 then now, but i do agree that some low mileage ones are overpriced
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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A guy at my office bought one brand new for $32,000 back in 1993. Still has the stickers on it...lol. It looks pretty much mint from the pictures he has shown me. It was a secondary vehicle and only has 30,000 miles on it. $32,000 back in 1993 would be equal to $46,741.97 today with inflation. I need to see if he's thinking about selling it , he's getting up there in age...and I still don't think he drives it now that he's retired.


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i think they were more like 55,000 brand new, plus, money was worth more durin 1993 then now, but i do agree that some low mileage ones are overpriced
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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Dude your in Ohio not Canada. We always get jigged on car prices.

For comparison sake the NSX was 42,000$ when it came out and by then end of its lifetime it was over the 120,000$ mark.

Some people having been through hell with their FD's would happily pay to know that anything they want to do won't be such a hastle because the car has much lower mileage.

I can't beleive this thread has gone this far. Being on the LHD mentality I guess I am just seeing RHD shoppers as people thinking all RHD owners are "idiots" and that they are getting a "sweet deal" and saving 10,000$ over us. In reality, I think the deal can be sweet just as it can be a terrible deal.

There are really not clean LHD cars and they deserve a price reflecting their condition just as there are gems in RHD land whose price is usually already reflected (I have seen some for 20+k).

Sometimes I think of it from a human perspective, I am sure any Japanese will tell you that Japs are some of the most racist people in the world. The are still very traditional in their ways and mentalities and have seen FAR less immigration then countries such as USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

Therefore, when a Japanese sees an Afghani comming to buy cars you think that person gets the cream of the crop? FWIW I am saying Afghani because that is the biggest nationality that I am seeing of importers here. (Then they turn around here and try to sell blown 20b's for 4,500$).
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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We go from a guy that says this:
Originally Posted by dradon03
I can't beleive this thread has gone this far.
To a guy that spews out this:
Originally Posted by dradon03
Sometimes I think of it from a human perspective, I am sure any Japanese will tell you that Japs are some of the most racist people in the world. The are still very traditional in their ways and mentalities and have seen FAR less immigration then countries such as USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
So, suddenly Japanese export policies are based on some form of racial agenda? How do you think **** like that up. Did you consider that maybe the 'Japs' can't afford too much immigration because Japan is a collection of tiny, hilly islands, with an already large population base?

And, by the way, New Zealand has a very strict immigration policy as well. They rank potential immigrants on a on a point system that determines your usefullness to them, then let you in accordingly.

Stick to talking about cars.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Easy now big man.

Fact of the matter is when you are buying something there is a buyer and a seller. Ex: Woman walks into a garage to ask what that noise is comming from under the hood.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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damn that sucks...well our dollars are worth closer to being the same now. I think it's gay that the U.S. has all these restrictions on importing cars. I don't believe RHD is better or anything. It's just different..but our government has to always put it's finger in everything. I honestly wouldn't have minded having a RHD with a 20B swap, but I don't like how "grey" that mess would be (not only with the engine but with the entire car as well) It'd be pretty easy to hide just a 20B in terms of emissions here. They only do visual to see if there's a cat and check the gas cap, they never pop the hood. Once it fails emissions, just go back and show a reciept for $300 showing that you tried to make it more "enviromentally friendly" and your done. But I don't know, I don't really want to go along the route of replacing JAP vin with wrecked RX7 USDM vin and come up with a title to register it as a salvaged vehicle.


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Dude your in Ohio not Canada. We always get jigged on car prices.

For comparison sake the NSX was 42,000$ when it came out and by then end of its lifetime it was over the 120,000$ mark.

Some people having been through hell with their FD's would happily pay to know that anything they want to do won't be such a hastle because the car has much lower mileage.

I can't beleive this thread has gone this far. Being on the LHD mentality I guess I am just seeing RHD shoppers as people thinking all RHD owners are "idiots" and that they are getting a "sweet deal" and saving 10,000$ over us. In reality, I think the deal can be sweet just as it can be a terrible deal.

There are really not clean LHD cars and they deserve a price reflecting their condition just as there are gems in RHD land whose price is usually already reflected (I have seen some for 20+k).

Sometimes I think of it from a human perspective, I am sure any Japanese will tell you that Japs are some of the most racist people in the world. The are still very traditional in their ways and mentalities and have seen FAR less immigration then countries such as USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

Therefore, when a Japanese sees an Afghani comming to buy cars you think that person gets the cream of the crop? FWIW I am saying Afghani because that is the biggest nationality that I am seeing of importers here. (Then they turn around here and try to sell blown 20b's for 4,500$).
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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would never drive one

sorry to say that i hate rhd's in canada... i purchased my fd two years ago out of texas with a blown engine, it took me two years to build my dream car i also sold my first gen ( that i owned for 15 years ) to get some extra money for my single turbo conversion.. i have spent well over 25 k on my car.. after all that time, money and patience i see fds everywhere. all except two that i can think of are rhd and owned by an 18 yr old kid... i always loved the fd and wanted one since they were manufactured.. i didnt start liking them after the fast and furious came out.. i feel that my car dropped in value at least 5k because of the rhd cars, (not like im gonna sell it) but it just feels like a slap in the face when a kid with 10k can buy a car like mine and dosent care what happens to it... i hate it... just so you know im also the kind of person that will give you a dirty look if your wearing the same shoes as me..lol
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Your the kind of guy that gived dirty looks

Don't get frustrated the kid that spends 10k on a car and your car that is done after so much work don't have at all the same end product. Maybe you can appreciate it, maybe he can't. Either way you are both happy when you get behind the wheel.
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