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Old 06-11-05, 12:44 AM
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Exclamation Newbie to the RX world

Hello.

As the title says, I'm completely new to this. Thank you all for taking me in willingly or unwillingly. I have a lot of import experience but none dealing with Rotary, I hear a lot of negative things from Piston powered guys about rotary but I like to have an open mind and try everything atleast once.

I recently made an RX-7 purchase that some of you may have seen on autotrader, 1991 FC going for $1,990? It is in... literally.. **** condition. apparently the car has not been running for the past 2 years. Ad claimed 168km's on the car but the odometer reads 218k. Said there was a DVD player but he said it was taken. I have no idea what model it is; although it has power everything and sunroof. The car has major major major body issues. I will put up some pics when I can.

Now for the important stuff. I have no idea if this car is worth reviving, the whole project seems like an overhaul. I kept thinking to myself a 240sx may not give me as big of a headache but I wanted to see how rotary performed. There is massive body damage, I have no idea what shape the suspension is in or anything.

Biggest issue. The car doesn't run because it needs a new clutch. My neighbor's a mechanic and he's willing to do the whole job for $500. New aftermarket clutch, bearing, the whole shibang. I know this is an OK deal with piston engines but I'm sure you bright guys know the real deals. So if you guys can point this newbie RX guy (me) in the right direction, i'd appreciate it
Old 06-11-05, 12:50 AM
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well, we have a meet on sunday in Brampton, your more then welcome to come and hang out, watch people dyno their cars, and dyno your car if you like, just read the Dyno met thread. and welcome aboard,
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sounds cool! altough i'd only be there to watch... and without my car... haha my FC can't move. I need to find a better deal than $500 in replacing the clutch.
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Definitely come to the dyno meet. There will be more than a few people spectating also. Get to know a few of us and I'm sure a few bottles of beer and pizza can go a long way in getting that clutch job done for you. Does the car start up?
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Originally Posted by YeLLoW_RiCe
Now for the important stuff. I have no idea if this car is worth reviving, the whole project seems like an overhaul.
If it's a Rotary then it's worth reviving

Not to worry, with the resources on this board and the RX Club of Ontario you have all you need to make this project car a success! You better be ready for what you got yourself into, once you get into these Rotory engines you'll never go back to pistons.

Welcome and see you on Sunday!!
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HEVNSNT, the car starts if I jump it. It could be a dead battery. After i started it, i let the car run for a while. After i turned it off and started it up again right after, the car starts up and then slowly dies out.


Originally Posted by Hellbreed
If it's a Rotary then it's worth reviving

Not to worry, with the resources on this board and the RX Club of Ontario you have all you need to make this project car a success! You better be ready for what you got yourself into, once you get into these Rotory engines you'll never go back to pistons.

Welcome and see you on Sunday!!
Haha, I hope the cost in running it will not be as bad what pistonheads say it is. BUT i'm areally looking forward to see what it can do.

I will definately see you guys on sunday
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if it's turbo then your wallet is screwed, my car when it was n/a got about 500-600km's per tank and i never had to replace anything more then sparkplugs/wires, and a alternator. no i get about 450-500km's per tank...if i stay in vacuum most of the time.
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I hope to God you didn't pay $1,990 or anything close to that for it, if the body and everything is **** and you're not even sure what shape the engine is in... Unless you're in love with the car, might not be a bad idea to try and resell it for parts!
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Originally Posted by SophiaCDN
I hope to God you didn't pay $1,990 or anything close to that for it, if the body and everything is **** and you're not even sure what shape the engine is in... Unless you're in love with the car, might not be a bad idea to try and resell it for parts!
noo i did not pay $1,990 . i paid $700. Good deal?
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i was gonna say... 1900 for that and u got raped.. HARD, 700 isnt bad but u can get a running fc in ok shape for 2000, i sold mine in april for $2000 and it was mechaniclly perfect. i got a jspec clutch in good condition if u need it, pm me... welcome to the club
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haha ok good to hear i didn't get ripped off. to be honest, i never planned on getting this car. It just turned out to be a impulse thing with my friends. My friend just bought a 240sx today. haha.

Before I do anything, I need to find out if my motor is ok or not. This is stuff I have to learn. haha. I'm assuming it's not the same as a regular motor.

RidicilousRx7 thanks for the greetings. You're the first to help me on my RX-7 project. haha. =)
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Originally Posted by RidicilousRx7
i was gonna say... 1900 for that and u got raped.. HARD, 700 isnt bad but u can get a running fc in ok shape for 2000, i sold mine in april for $2000 and it was mechaniclly perfect. i got a jspec clutch in good condition if u need it, pm me... welcome to the club
His car is N/A, and your clutch (jspec) is for a turbo engine, So this would not work.
He would need to replace flywheel as well in order to use that, and i'm not positive but i think tranny as well..?(probably wrong on the tranny though?)

BTW Welcome to the forum Yellow_Rice, and don't let the work discourange you, if the frame is good and and it's only body pannels then you have a good base to start off with.
$500 for a new aftermarcket clutch + bearings and labour seems pretty decent. I know your not rich but you might wanna find out what kinda aftermarcket clutch he's talking about. If it's a good aftermarket clutch you might wanna save up and get that done if you have a Daily driver. Hopefully you'll find some help on this forum the way many already have.

A few friends of mine here in ottawa should have N/A clutches lying around that they don't need so hopefully they chime in.
As far as the rest of the car goes, you might wanna do a compression check. A quick search should help you with that if your not sure, might even be in one of the stickies up top the canadian forum.

Good luck with your new purchase.
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ya i just noticied its a n/a my bad...
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Originally Posted by Nismo Convert86
if it's turbo then your wallet is screwed, my car when it was n/a got about 500-600km's per tank and i never had to replace anything more then sparkplugs/wires, and a alternator. no i get about 450-500km's per tank...if i stay in vacuum most of the time.
Am I reading this right? If his car was turbo he would be screwed because he would ONLY get 450-500km's per tank? LOL. Hey Yellow_Rice, if this is true don't even think of getting an RX-8, you'll be looking at 340-380km's per tank (400km's if you grandma it).
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Originally Posted by RXciting
His car is N/A, and your clutch (jspec) is for a turbo engine, So this would not work.
He would need to replace flywheel as well in order to use that, and i'm not positive but i think tranny as well..?(probably wrong on the tranny though?)
You sure about that, Sunshine?

The 6-puck ACT in my NA is a popular choice for turbo rotaries, including FDs. And I'm getting along just fine on mine with a stock flywheel and pressure plate. So what makes a 'turbo' clutch different?
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Originally Posted by Amur_
You sure about that, Sunshine?

As faras i know the TII flywheel is slightly larger in diameter so the holes for the bolts don't line up. Plus if you compare the TII flywheel to a N/A flywheel you'll notice a considerable difference in where the friction surface is.

There is a step up from the friction surface to where the pressure place bolts up. Where the holes for the TII flywheel are flush with the friction surface.

Anyways. I never tried mating my TII clutch to the N/A flywheel or vice versa but i could be wrong. Still doesn't look like it would fit.

OK Amouuurr!
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Originally Posted by Amur_
You sure about that, Sunshine?

The 6-puck ACT in my NA is a popular choice for turbo rotaries, including FDs. And I'm getting along just fine on mine with a stock flywheel and pressure plate. So what makes a 'turbo' clutch different?
Amour_

Your ACT 6 puck is 224mm, part number 6P224E. The turbo version is 6P240H and is 240mm

WeeZe g0tz biggar clutcheZ, y0!
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Okey-doke.
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haha err.. ok! yay!
i think i should do a compression test... but where? and how?
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Take out the leaking plugs and the first 2 fuses at the driver side shock closest to the fender. (30A and 40A fuses i believe?)
Then plug the compression tester ( without the peak hold valve or w/e it's called, i'm not too positive on that) into the leaking spark plug hole and crank it over.

You "should" get 3 nice even bounces on the guage. You'll have to do this on both front and rear rotor.

Of course, this will require 2 ppl, 1 to read the guage and 1 to crank her over.

Can someone clear up what i said on the can someone clear up what i said on the peak hold "valve"?? A few too many beers after working on car all day fogs an already unclear mind

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Crap. i don't have a compression tester.
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