r4itei

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i just have a few questions i need answered about ontario's emissions laws.

well, ive been reading up on threads as much as i can for about a year and a half now....

and i think im ready for my first 7!
FC for now.

I am mostly concerned regarding the emissions laws in Ontario. I plan to get a stock Rx7 at first, I was just wondering how hard it is to pass emissions with a stock FC with plans to modify and reach 250HP later on.

I understand that if the car is 1987 or older, it does not need emissions testing to be done, is there perhaps another way around this? I have read one time that if I were to register the car to a residence in cottage country, I would have no need for testing.

what are your thoughts regarding my concerns?
thanks in advance.

Buggy

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The best way around the emissions issue is just to get an 1987 or older car. Registering the vehicle to a different address in an emissions exempt zone can be done, not exactly the most legal way to go about it though.

Oh and FYI, apparently you can't use forum member's names in thread titles so don't be surprised if the mods change that on you. Tip for the future. Good luck!

r4itei

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oh, i didnt know about the forum member name! thanks for the tip.
i just wanted to grab the attention of the more experienced (older) guys on the forum.
your name should've been up there too buggy, had i remembered.

so i take it its pretty hard to get a legally passing emissions FC...?

Buggy

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In stock trim with everything working properly, I doubt it would be that hard. Just having the hassle of doing it year after year especially as you modify it would be a pain. If you search for a nice '86 or '87 you'll be far happier with it in the end. They can be found, you just have to watch.

r4itei

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thats exactly what i was thinking of doing, emissions every 2 years is not something i was really wanting to do.

onto my next question, this one might be slightly ..redundant, if so im sorry since i havent seen this question answered exactly how i want it. i understand that i can take the S5 fenders, bumpers, and basically anything exterior and it would fit the S4 as well. taillights i know would need a bit of grinding. but as far as ive read, theres no difference car body (shell) wise between the two, correct? so i'd be able to take whatever is in the interior of an S5 and it would fit in the S4 interior?

and my real question is, i know there are differences in the engine, tps, etc of an S4 and S5. but if i were to take EVERYTHING S5, and put it into an S4 shell, itll work right?

im just trying to work around this whole emissions issue and i've read that there are some changes to the S5 that makes it better, interior wise and engine wise.

Zhé

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hm, if you were to buy a 1990 FC, if you past your first emissions test, then start modifying it to your likings, 2 years down the road and the car would be 21 years old, which means you wouldn't need emissions anymore.
right?

r4itei

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sadly, no siree. ive tried thinking of those already. but the fact is, even if its 23- however many years old, if its older than an 87, ontario wants emissions every 2 years.

r4itei

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oops. just read it again, sounds wrong. if its 87 or 86, no emissions.

88-91, emissions every 2 years.

Double_J

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I think the 20 year except rule stopped after 1987.

misterstyx69

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it stops at 1987.
after that go Pay the Emissions Dude his "hard earned money"..
r4itie.ya want a Car?..I may have one for ya.

CS13B

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^ above is correct. The 20 year rule is no longer - as of 2008 I believe. Now, if you buy a car from 1987 or older, it has to pass e-test to be transferred into your name at the ministry office, then no more after that.
That being said, there are people I know who pay quite a bit of money to have the test faked, but I do not know where they do it, since my car passed okay.

thewird

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Don't I feel special lol. A stock FC with all the emissions equipment still on it and in good working order will pass emissions. 250 rwhp should be doable and still pass emissions (even more). Just don't remove any of the emissions stuff and install a quality high-flow cat when you need to free up the exhaust.

thewird

r4itei

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lol, i only wrote your name cause you know your ****. once i dont need your help, i will be an *******...haha!

but err....someone wanna answer my question about the S5 to S4 interior thinger? its up there somewhere.

also misterstyx, im not in a rush to buy, i mean id be glad to take a look, just dont expect a sale in a week, i like to take a look around. haha.

misterstyx69

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s5 interior will fit in an s4 but there will be a little change in the wiring.
you wil be looking at speedo cluster rewiring.

Trots*88TII-AE*

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feel like i shouls ask the obvious question, Turbo or N/A?

r4itei

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Trots
err turbo? i haven't bought one yet. but im just researching trying to get my questions answered before i can make a decision.

CS13B
i dont even think they need emissions for transfer of ownership. my cousin bought an 84/85 corolla and they didnt ask for emissions. just safety.

Styx
Would the wiring still matter if i just transfer EVERYTHING from an S5 (engine and cluster and tps and whatever else needed to make the engine work?)

It would be so much easier if I just lie and fake the VIN on a 90 S5 to show 87...but id go to jail. haha. also, just to cover all the bases, they dont care about the year of the engine right?
i dunno how indepth they go...

2Fierce

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fc's suck.

Get an fb.

djphonics

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I'm in the same boat right now. Literally! Engine doesn't matter just the shell, you could take an 87 ford escort and put in the engine from a transport truck built in 2010 and still needn't worry of an emissions test. (don't worry guys I'm not doing it....)
If you can find an 87 go for it, but as cs13b said, it's very easy to get it 'faked'. don't know someone to do it, go to crappy tire, or somewhere where you can find a young punk and offer him $50, and just give him the info of your car, and a car that'll pass, no need for him to even see the car. Now this is illegal, and isn't recommended that you do this, nor have I ever performed such an activity.

r4itei

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DJPhonics
i love how everyone always says its easy to get faked but ive never met anyone who's actually got it faked...

but id rather go the legal way...like 1987 or register in a emissions exempt zone... not 100% legal but its not illegal. haha



2Fierce
I dont like FBs body style. no offence, just not for me. reminds me too much of old school corvettes.

Aspect28

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Just buy the car. Learn along the way. 20 year rule and stuff. pshhh that's what's stopping you from getting a rx-7? then might as well go get a Honda.

thewird

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It is easy to get an etest lol. Biggest and most useless money grab from our government. But with your goals, you have absolutely no need to make your car not able to pass emissions.

thewird

djphonics

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[QUOTE=r4itei;10024242]DJPhonics
i love how everyone always says its easy to get faked but ive never met anyone who's actually got it faked...

but id rather go the legal way...like 1987 or register in a emissions exempt zone... not 100% legal but its not illegal. haha



My 89 Ranger, 92 Sable Wagon, and a few of my brothers cars, never had a proper safety or e-test.....but that's a lie

Now, my buddy works at a local dealership. I most definitely won't mention their name. But all the guys there are ready to support me through getting the car on the road. They laughed when i asked if they'd do an illegal e-test, they laughed and said of course. I also asked them about the single wiper speed, and a leaky caliber for the safety, and they said as long as it stops.

Knowing the right people, and pulling the right strings can get you almost anywhere you want

Sorry to steal your thread.

Ranger was a pos, but was just used to get to school, and work and back. The sable had a gauge cluster with no lights.

Buggy

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^ as a licenced technician, hearing about things like this makes me shake my head. The whole point of a safety inspection is to ensure you are driving a vehicle that is SAFE and won't endanger your life or the lives of the other people on the road with you. No dash lights, not that big of a deal, but leaking brake hydraulic system is a different story. Please don't do that again. Just my little rant.

djphonics

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don't worry buggy, won't be happening again. The caliper is leaking at the line though, so it just may be an o-ring, but it'll be getting fixed. It won't be driven like that for a long time.