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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Hey i just have a question for all of you who know the law. I was offered a job from a Russian Jewlery shop. They found my resume on monster.ca where i did allow the public to view my resume. This is the job: I am supposedly a Billing Support Agent which collects money from Canadian customers who purchase jewlery from this online store. I open a bank account for this purpose soley and money will be paid towards this account by the customers. Then i take this money, take 10% of it and withdraw 90% of it and give it to the owners in Russia through Western Union. They say they need to do it this way because the tax is raised from any remittances on the legal person at a rate of 20 % from the sum of transfer while transfer money resources on the private person the tax at a rate of 3 % is raised. Also if the customers pay directly to the Russian company, it will take a long time, because international wire transfer goes 5-6 days compared to Western Union 1-2days. THe pay seems too good to be true but is this even legal? Will Revenue Canada be all up in my ***? And to clear things up they suggested me to send the money through western union. and no i am not starting this job but i was offered it. just very curious because it sounds so sketchy. And im guessing i become the middle man of transfering money because it seeems to save them time and money. So my question is....would this be legal?

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, personally...
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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ya it sounds too good to be true. should i report this to the authorities?
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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lol, holy crap it sounds straight out of one of those cheesy international crime movies or something!

hey now you don't want to go telling the authorities maybe, because then you might have other people "all up in your ***" that aren't so law-abiding...

lol, j/k.
but seriously just tell them you are not interested...politely.





tell them the RX-7 Club knows about them.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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oh ya...to heighten this situation guess how much the payout is

500USD/week....AT LEAST
500USD/month premium.

= 3gs CND!!!!!
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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tell them the RX-7 Club knows about them.
Tell them Aason will slap them with his all mighty hand.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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lol, I'm not sure how to call this in english... whitening money?

the RCMP will be on your *** shortly after this but they do not care...

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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and how is that illegal? i can see the illegal aspect and legal....it seems like a business strategy to avoid the loss of time and etc. its just like holding headquarters in canada then the opertations here transfer money to the main organization. not being stubborn but i would like to learn why this is illegal.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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I'm teaching an intro to law college/university prep course this semester. Basically, the way that I see it is that the difference of 20% versus 3% remittance rates is tax evasion. And since the bank account receiving and chanelling these funds would be in your name, guess who would carry the heavier burden of guilt pending an official fraud charge? Definately walk away...very quietly and politely.

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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whitening money in itself is made to look legal. BUT, this is probably drug or weapon money.

The point is sending high volume as small amount to a legal account (your account), then sending the whitened money to Russia. When the financial services will detect such a large amount of money moving from a personnal account, they will send the RCMP on you ***. Could also be tax evasion but the result is the same
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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why don't you tell them you will talk about it and confirm with Revenue Canada?
if they threaten kill you i guess that means no?
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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if you dont want the job, lemme know who it is and il send my resumee... lol
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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yeah, what am I saying?!?!

3Gs a week? that is like, a lot of RX-7 parts!
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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NONONO 3gs a month
but thts better than most jobs.

500USD WEEK X 4 + 500USD premium "if i do a good and honest job"
= 2.5gs USD
=3gs CND/month
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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and say if i do take this job...which i probably wont unless i get some answers from revenue canada....cant i say i did not know they are evading tax? Like i can say i thought this was a legit job and thought they needed me to save them time (int. wire) so saves them a week of recieving money.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by overb0ost
and say if i do take this job...which i probably wont unless i get some answers from revenue canada....cant i say i did not know they are evading tax? Like i can say i thought this was a legit job and thought they needed me to save them time (int. wire) so saves them a week of recieving money.

Ignorance is not a defence, you got the right answer from everyone else. WALK AWAY.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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no, because you know about it and it would be dam easy to realize it
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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thanks for all the replys...i am going to walk away from it for sure. I dont feel like getting arrested at the age of 20. but this is an interesting offer. like come on...people from Russian finding my resume on monster.ca? lol i hope they don't find another young adult like myself and they fall into the trap. thanks guys.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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what tells you that they are actually from Russia?
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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they told me their from Russia.

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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well, if they are from Russia that is wierd...and if they aren't then that is even more wierd them saying they ARE from Russia...yeah i need sleep
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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Gizmo, the word you're looking for isn't money "whitening" .. in English it's Money Laundering (like washing your dirty laundry to make it clean, they pass their dirty money through channels that make it look legitimate).

Just thought I'd help you out

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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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take the job
collect the money
keep collecting the money
tell them you are sending it (you know the old "the cheque is in the mail")
and after a few months cash out keeping it all
LOL
what are the odds they will find you
would make life very exciting
and maybe a little shorter than expected...
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by vipernicus42
Gizmo, the word you're looking for isn't money "whitening" .. in English it's Money Laundering (like washing your dirty laundry to make it clean, they pass their dirty money through channels that make it look legitimate).

Just thought I'd help you out

Jon
still, I scored pretty dam good in my RCMP exams
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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vipernicus42..nailed this one one the head ..money laundering ..you would just be a link in the chain my friend ..an innocent pawn in the Boris Spasky diamond monopoly!..they don't care who they use ..it's crime..all they care about is money..don't care how it gets to their pockets ,as long as it gets there..don't know how to spell it but I would be sayin DAS vadanya...I think that's good bye in Russian!!...if it sounds to good to be true ..you know the rest...
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