soulja77

Whats a good brand name break pad for the 90 convertible fc? and where can i pick them up?

Anyone buy those PBR axxiss pads off ebay? If so what are your opinions about them?

SAiamNE

Hawk HPS pads are awesome... I picked mine up at Mopac.

soulja77

are they avaolable at cdn tire?

smnc

Good god, no...

Canadian tire only caries two brands. Certified (their own house brand... decent for normal cars) and the new Monroe 'premium' pads (I don't know much about them)...

To get Hawks, you'll need to go to an actual performance/parts shop

daem0n

Actually they can get Hawks too but they just order through eKeystone.

soulja77

i have seen the monroe commerical... they have a great warranty and provided instructions so you can install their pads yourself.

What do you guys normally use?

smnc

Let me rephrase that... Canadian Tire only CARIES the two aforementiond brands.

They do have access to LAGE number of 'special order' pats as well, but you'd just end up paying a middle man extra $$...

sjd

I bought my Hawk HP+ front pads/HPS rear pads for my Protege from Dave Wood Mazda in Newmarket. The price was great, cheaper than the Mazda factory pads.

grantmac

I've run KVR carbon kevlar pads in the past and I'm gonna put them on the new brakes once the car is ready to go. No harmful dust and they won't eat rotors like the Hawk pads. A lot of local AutoX guys are running them and they make for a really good street pad.
Grant

pd_day

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Good pads are Hawk HPS and HP+. They have good grip but dust and squeal.

Then there is the EBC Green Stuff, Yellow Stuff and Red Stuff.
Don't dust as much and don't squeal. But more expensive.

If you want cheap, there is the AutoExtra Pads. They are ceremic so they don't dust and lasts very long. However, they are only good for everyday use and are not track worthy.

Then if you want the best, I can hook you up with some Endless or Project Mu brake pads, but those are big money.

Really depends on what you need it for.
I can hook you up with stuff if you need, just let me know.

btw, I would not recommand anything that has a lifetime warrenty on pads. If thed pads lasts forever, that means your rotors are going to go VERY FAST! Something is going to need to give....

Cheers!

I'm not a fan of the hawk HPS at all. They dust quite a bit, eat rotors, and get glazed heavily when you track the pad hard. I for one will not use them again. I have heard good things about the Satisified Motorsports Grandsport line of pads. I'm looking to try those next.

smnc

I've been thinking of going with KVR for rotors and pads... But that's still a ways off.

I've always wondered about Midas's lifetime pads and rotors...

sjd

Only the HP+ squeal and dust. The HPS are fine, But neither are track pads so of course they will glaze. For the track I would use Hawk blues. I've also had KVR's before and don't like them.

RXcetera

Not a big fan of the KVR's either. They glazed durring street driving and had zero "bite".

I've run HP+ in the past and the dust and noise is too much for the street... plus they take a couple hard stops to get going.

I have HPS right now and they are ok... still too much dust but no noise.

Mr. Eccentric

I picked up some Hawk HPS pads myself, but yet to try them out. Even if Canadian Tire did sell them, I ain't buyin' nothin' there as long as they insist on having that bearded super-homo trying to peddle his creepy wares on the television.

01Racing

Hi everyone, I ahve used hawk pads on street and race cars for a long time. All of you are right about the pads if they are used in the wrong application. The black compound and above are for race cars only! If you use the street pads HPS compound, you shouldnt have a problem. If you use the HP Plus they are intended for autocross and club racing events. I find that there is a lot of confusion with Hawk pad compounds, however if you get the right ones I am sure you will be more than happy. We buy hawk pads right from the distributor, so if you wish just contact me and I will be happy to help you!

Cheers!

I would stay away from slotted or drilled. I've seen way too many drilled and slotted rotors that cracked at the hole or at the edge of the slots near the outer diameter of the rotors.

I checked out the tirerack website today and apprently brembo makes a rear rotor for the FC now? That is news to me. I remember trying to get Brembo blanks two years ago. All they had were fronts and no rears. Actually almost no one made rears 2 years ago other than mazda and UAP napa and some canadian tire stuff. BTW mazda ones are cheap compared to canadian tire and uap napa stuff.

But the tire rack lists the brembo blank fronts as 60 USD and for the rears 64 USD. Which is a frigging bargin. I used to get 25% off at a mazda dealership and the best I could do for the fronts were 115 and the rears were 125 CDN. Plus I personally think Brembo quality is 100% the quality of mazda if not better.

The raybestos, certified etc etc rotors for rx7s at candian tire are expensive, something like 140 for the fronts and 150 for the rears.

i wonder if hte rx8 rear rotor is the same as the FC tiis because I would see zero reason for brembo to make rotors for a 15+ year old car that less and less people want ot spend money on.

REFLUX

I've heard good things about Axxis pads & Cobalts.

*shrug*

coldfire

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just wanted to bump this.

so far the thread has mentioned a lot drawbacks, especially using pads in improper applications.

i was looking at the HPS since they seem to provide good stopping power with minimal noise, but they do seem to generate a lot of dust (they are a metallic compound i believe).

even though i plan on doing some track time, i don't think my NA can generate the speeds that cause massive brake fade, so i don't want a crazy race compound on there...

another company i have heard of is Carbotech Engineering. anyone familiar with their pads?
http://www.carbotecheng.com/prod-ct-compounds.htm

coldfire

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oh, and apparently the Mazda 6 rear pads are the same as the rear for an FC. so says the Hawk website...

rx7racerca

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I haven't used the Carbotech pads, but am thinking about trying the Carbotech Bobcats- sound like they have good bite without generating the dust the HPS and HP+ do, and I'm not looking for something suitable for road racing, as in autocross my brakes barely get warm, let alone hot. When I have done lapping days, I've found the factory pads on my GXL had no problem, at least in a typical session that runs 10-20 minutes and then a cool down lap before pitting. The Hawk pads are pretty popular with the local autocrossing crowd nonetheless.
The Calgary Sports Car Club has a similar thread running now also that may be of interest:
http://cscc.speedracer.ca/phpBB2/vie...er=asc&start=0

coldfire

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anyone have any experience with the EBC green pads?

i want to get some pads shortly, but still looking for something that produces less dust than the Hawk HPS...

- Aaron

coldfire

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has anyone tried the EBC Yellow pads?
http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Automotive.html

seems like a really good performing pad, but i don't know if their claim of "zero rotor damage" and low dust is completely truthful...actually i don't even know if they have a fitment for FCs, lol

- Aaron

Snrub

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HPSs do dust a lot, but that wouldn't stop me from buying them. It just means you have to wash the car periodically, which ideally you're doing anyway.

If you're going to do some track time, I don't know that the n/a single piston brakes are sufficent. That said I haven't spoken to anyone using them who've done a track day. I know that a couple years ago at the Mosport DDT (which is like a big go-kart track), Preludes were experiencing brake fade.

If you're going to be doing a track day it's time to switch to some Ford Spec Dot 3 brake fluid. It doesn't last as long as regular Dot 3/4/5.1 fluid, so you'll have to change it more often, but it has a very high dry boiling point which will help to keep your brakes from fading on you. Unlike performance fluids with a similar dry boiling point, it's the same price as regular Dot 3 fluid.

coldfire

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well the concesous is that you can get pads that perform just as well as the HPS but produce a lot less dust, or at least the dust isn't as damaging as the HPS dust.

i currently have all 4 rebuilt TII calipers and OEM rotors waiting to be installed, i just need brake pads and some time to do it.
with my stock NA calipers and pads, i can get them to fade even on the street (although this takes some effort).

i was looking at brake fluid also. i have heard about the Ford fluid you mention, but i also heard something about it absorbing moisture so it had to be replaced often?
i was also looking at the brake fluid from Motul, i forget what it's called but it's supposed to be good.

looks like i am going to go with the EBC Green, even though i have heard some bad stuff on them...but i should probably mention i am looking for pads that would do fine just for hard street driving and autox. if i ever get onto a road course, i would swap the front brakes with some Hawk Blue or Black race compound...