I was at work today went to drop off a etest at across the street and got chatting with the tech over there. Apparently they are getting rid of the dyno!!.. now pre 1997 they it's just a 2 speed idle test which means no more testing for NOx or under load.. Post 1997 is 2 speed idle and OBD test. The OBD test scans for any emission related codes.. so basically if your check engine light is on you fail.

apparently you can't just clear the code and go in either if P1000 is present it will run self test on emission system.

Not sure on the exact date this will take affect, but it will be soon. He said he's doing his tests soon. Nothing on the driveclean site about it yet and I don't know if there will be since it dosen't really concern the general public.

But good news for me anyways.

 

Its not gone into effect yet, just a pilot program right now they're seeing if its gonna work out first.

 

Well it will be eventually obviously if they are training the techs to do it.. Would make sense all you need is the machine then no dyno.. not to mention the cost and maintenance of the dyno is very expensive.

we don't have a etest at our shop, but apparently all the shops in this area are currently doing or going to do this training.

 

No not "obviously" I happen to have my drive clean license and I also know somebody who's doing the program. It's a program, they're testing it and if it's what the want to do, and it works it'll be put fully into effect. Our shop hasn't been asked to participate in the program yet we have a dyno and everything.

 

Just relaying the information I been told to confirm with you. My shop doesn't have a e test machine I work a A&B Ford in Smiths falls, now A&B in perth has a etest machine and is doing this too...

 

that seems like bad news for anybody who isn't running stock ecu
i dont know if they can even scan the obd1 system

 

Does OBD1 even have self-test? I think it just throws a code, or doesn't. Non-factory ECU=no codes! Yay! Maybe.

 

Excellent.... hehe time to find that racing beat system, and street ported motor for my vert

 

I Love being out in the "not so uptight west" (IMO) and not having emissions...

from the owner of a street ported, BNR stage 3, HKS downpipe, and no name midpipe to Mazdaspeed catback (full flow) FD-3S...

*runs out side and hugs a nearby tree good bye*




J.

 

OBD 1 is not affected by this change only OBD II is.. that is if the changes take affect at all.

 

Ironically, I'm having to put in a cat - for autocrossing. Required for my new chosen class. Picked up a 3" high-flow cat cheap that a guy was going to put on a Camaro project, but forgot to give to the exhaust shop when he dropped the car.

 

I am also a Alberta resident. I have planted trees in my back yard for all my RX-7 transgressions!

If the government starts sticking its nose in my buisness I'll tell them to clean their backyard (Oil Sands) first before looking into mine!

 

this new system of e-tests in ont. will be implemented before the end of 2012

 

Permanently? Has it not been temporary implemented right now?

 

I'll post after I get mine done this weekend....

 

Much appreciated. I got my S5 to test also, but ill wait till you break the news

 

Had mine failed bad yesterday. he opted to do a 2 speed idle test since he could not strap it. I need to play with the PFC and take some fuel out.

 

They have temporary placments now. According to mike fairs it will be permanent as of early next year there. Apparently there is some bugs with the OBD II testing side of it they need to work out. So they still have the other system going at the same time incase they run into bugs.

The OBD I test is done with a hand held sniffer on the new system, mine failed last year, put new temp sensor and cat on it this year and it passed with flying colours.

 

My shop is in the Beta testing program right now of the new machine, 1997 and older are two speed idle tests, and 1998 and newer is OBD testing. This will be permanent Jan 2013. 1997 and older cars we test with the old machine, 1998 and newer with the new machine and if it fails we test it on the old machine. From my experience if you have a 1998 and newer car with a check engine light on, you should test it before Jan because it could pass with the old machine, and your test paper will be valid for one year. FYI

 

Hmmm, very interesting :P I guess I'm going for an Apexi then

 

So, being from the land of no emissions testing, ever, what happens to a car when, as with my dd Passat, the MIL light itself malfunctions - does it fail e-testing? The code on the scanner is "MIL malfunction" - which is apparently common on the first couple years of OBDII, at least on VWs.

 

I think we wouldn't even be able to test it until it is working properly, and it would count as a fail.

 

From what I understand it's only emission related codes they care about. Saying this you can't just clear the codes and go for a e test the car has to complete a drive cycle. We had one with KAM (keep alive memory) power circuit code. So everytime the car is turned to the off position it would loose its memory and produce a P1000 code and it failed the new test, but passed the old 25/25.

My impala passed on the new system it has various transmission codes(causing the MIL to be illuminated at times). There is a list of systems it checks on the print out they give you. I'm pretty sure you will be ok.

 

This is interesting. In reality, nobody will be able to remove their cat still, if I understand the system right. OBDI cars will still be tested on the old tailpipe sniffers and won't pass unless the emission control system is in good working order. Newer OBDII systems, which do have many more sensors which include catalyst efficiency and EVAP system sensors, don't get the sniffer since the ECM of the car is apparently good enough at telling if there is an emission problem. That is quite interesting and I hope it works out since it should make tests faster for OBDII cars.

 

Well I gusse you could have free flowing cats and O2 Simulators.. Technically not legal, but would work. They are suppose to check and make sure it has a cat (no one does) so free flowing cat looks like a cat with no guts.

O2 simulators would simulate a properly functioning cat.