94 octane from sunoco?
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Octane booster is a waste of time. The highest booster I have seen is what they call 60 points, which actually only increases your octane by 0.6 for a full tank (average sized tanks) of gas. A complete waste of money. You'll get WAY more benefit by buying a gallon of race gas and powering it in. Remember octane doesn't give you power, it increases the knocking resistance of the fuel which can then lead to more aggressive tuning but on its own it does nothing but a safety buffer.
Use 94.
thewird
Use 94.
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Here's an interesting letter from the SAE magazine regarding ethanol:
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/sae/...3038343130#/46
Also, for what it's worth, a combustion specialist that I've been working with claims that Ultramar has no ethanol in its gasoline.
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/sae/...3038343130#/46
Also, for what it's worth, a combustion specialist that I've been working with claims that Ultramar has no ethanol in its gasoline.
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Here's an interesting letter from the SAE magazine regarding ethanol:
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/sae/...3038343130#/46
Also, for what it's worth, a combustion specialist that I've been working with claims that Ultramar has no ethanol in its gasoline.
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/sae/...3038343130#/46
Also, for what it's worth, a combustion specialist that I've been working with claims that Ultramar has no ethanol in its gasoline.
#56
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Anyone else here Sunoco is closing there gas stations.....http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/a.../19/c9830.html
No more 94 octane.
No more 94 octane.
#57
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Possibly it might lead to more availability - depending on whether PetroCan has both the capacity, and the interest in providing 94. If it doesn't fit in with their marketing plans, they could just as easily dump it. From the earlier post about the Sunoco retailer's suing Suncor, it appears the current plan of the merged PetroCan-Suncor might be to just dump the Sunoco franchise, not maintain it.
#58
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Some of the "local to me" Petro-Can stations are selling 94 octane now, i only have 3 within 50KM of my home. You can search for them here:
http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/locations/4085.aspx
http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/locations/4085.aspx
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Some of the "local to me" Petro-Can stations are selling 94 octane now, i only have 3 within 50KM of my home. You can search for them here:
http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/locations/4085.aspx
http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/locations/4085.aspx
That is all assuming they want to offer 94 octane, which I hope and think they will.
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Some of the "local to me" Petro-Can stations are selling 94 octane now, i only have 3 within 50KM of my home. You can search for them here:
http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/locations/4085.aspx
http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/locations/4085.aspx
but ive heard its not really 94,
ive talk with the owner of a Shell gas station, and he told me the shell 91 v-power is the same then petro-can 94.
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FYI: E85 is only available at 3 location's in Ontario and you must have a E85 vehicle with a matching vin before they will sell it to you, they will not sell in drums/jerry cans or in bulk.
Yes Canada is way behind on this product, you can buy it anywhere in the USA just like you buy gasoline....
Yes Canada is way behind on this product, you can buy it anywhere in the USA just like you buy gasoline....
I finally remember to go back to the gas station. Jim, was right they will not sell the fuel to anyone. You must have a flex vehicle that has a proper VIN.
I asked why, and the man told me it is because it can damage your car if it's not designed to use it.
I said people can modify the vehicle to use the fuel, he responded your VIN must be on the list.....
I do not understand this argument. There has to be another reason as to why they will not sell the fuel to the general public, other than it can damage your engine.....
What happens if I put diesel in a car that is suppose to use gasoline? Or the other way around? What happens when you tune your car to use 94 octane and then run **** cheap gas?
I don't get it.
Anyway the price of the E85 is the same as regular gas. It was 97 cents today.
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Ethanol damages the metal inside the tanks, lines and rails. It has slightly acidic qualities enough to damage the fuel system, this isn't instant but it happens after a period of time.
I also wanted to add that the other advantage to higher octane is that the flame front propagates slower, which burns all of the molecules of the fuel. In a lower octane fuel, the flame front propagates faster, so it misses some of the fuel molecules..causing multiple smaller explosions. Basically when the flame fronts collide from these small explosions it can damage components.
I also wanted to add that the other advantage to higher octane is that the flame front propagates slower, which burns all of the molecules of the fuel. In a lower octane fuel, the flame front propagates faster, so it misses some of the fuel molecules..causing multiple smaller explosions. Basically when the flame fronts collide from these small explosions it can damage components.
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We are loosing all our Sunoco's. in Burlington. They are either being converted to either Petro Canada or Husky. They both serve 94, so I have no choice. I feel more comfortable using Petro Canada though.
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When I first got the car it would detonate even on Sunoco 94, now that I've been driving it a while, it doesn't detonate even on 91 (I usually get 94 - but every now and then I can't find it). I don't know if that's a function of the fuel system being dirty when I got it, because it was a JDM so who knows how long it had been sitting. OR maybe the ECU's gotten used to the lower-than-JDM octane and pulled timing? I have no idea if the ECU is smart enough for that, I would think not but I don't know for sure. I should disconnect the battery sometime and try the car then see if it makes a difference.
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When I first got the car it would detonate even on Sunoco 94, now that I've been driving it a while, it doesn't detonate even on 91 (I usually get 94 - but every now and then I can't find it). I don't know if that's a function of the fuel system being dirty when I got it, because it was a JDM so who knows how long it had been sitting. OR maybe the ECU's gotten used to the lower-than-JDM octane and pulled timing? I have no idea if the ECU is smart enough for that, I would think not but I don't know for sure. I should disconnect the battery sometime and try the car then see if it makes a difference.
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