3' lip in rear rims? need help
02-10-10, 02:29 PM
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3' lip in rear rims? need help
ok so i am looking at xxR or in canada they make it by the name FAST!!!
these rims are staggered ... 1.75" lip in front and 3" lip in rear rims...
the car came with 17" rims with 2" lip in the rear.. no problem on bumps!!!
so my question is if i put these 17" rims with the 3" lip in the rear rims.. will hit the body... or any part of the body ... keep in mind that these rims are not 18's they are 17"s?
another question if i do put these rims what tires should i wrap them in?
help?
these rims are staggered ... 1.75" lip in front and 3" lip in rear rims...
the car came with 17" rims with 2" lip in the rear.. no problem on bumps!!!
so my question is if i put these 17" rims with the 3" lip in the rear rims.. will hit the body... or any part of the body ... keep in mind that these rims are not 18's they are 17"s?
another question if i do put these rims what tires should i wrap them in?
help?
02-10-10, 07:37 PM
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02-10-10, 07:48 PM
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Model: XXR 962
Size: 17x7 FRONT & 17x9 REAR
Bolt Pattern: 4x100 & 4x114.3
Offset: +40 FRONT & +35 REAR
Color: Gunmetal W/Polished Lip
Quantity: A set of 4. You get 4 wheels & 4 center caps!!
Condition: New
Lip Size: 1.75" FRONT & 3" REAR
if that helps
Size: 17x7 FRONT & 17x9 REAR
Bolt Pattern: 4x100 & 4x114.3
Offset: +40 FRONT & +35 REAR
Color: Gunmetal W/Polished Lip
Quantity: A set of 4. You get 4 wheels & 4 center caps!!
Condition: New
Lip Size: 1.75" FRONT & 3" REAR
if that helps
02-10-10, 08:33 PM
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hmmm I thought you had an FD, cause those are the wrong bolt pattern. FD's are 5 x 114.3....and those offsets are pretty weak to be honest....7 inch seems small for the front.
Id say pass on these since it seems that you really didnt research this...
02-10-10, 09:16 PM
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http://www.avnmotorsports.com/product-p/96277089.htm
i was thinking of getting a set of those exact same rims for my FC hahahaha
will that fit on a FC without spacers
i was thinking of getting a set of those exact same rims for my FC hahahaha
will that fit on a FC without spacers
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02-11-10, 10:16 AM
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Well for us to help you, you need to tell us what year you have. 17x7" is pretty small though, and its not much of an upgrade. you could do the 17x9"s all the way around.
And if you can get them in a 5 lug pattern why does it say 4x100??
And if you can get them in a 5 lug pattern why does it say 4x100??
02-11-10, 02:12 PM
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thanx guys..
can i lower my car and still put 18"s with a 3" lip in rear rims
it a 94 fd3s?
would you guys go with 17's or18's. coz i think the car comes with 16's factory
the only reason i am asking this is coz i wana lower the car.. so watever the wheel dimensions workout for me
can i lower my car and still put 18"s with a 3" lip in rear rims
it a 94 fd3s?
would you guys go with 17's or18's. coz i think the car comes with 16's factory
the only reason i am asking this is coz i wana lower the car.. so watever the wheel dimensions workout for me
02-11-10, 08:33 PM
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Lip size is irrelevant.
Offset and width of the wheel are what matter.
1inch = 25.4mm
Stock FD wheels are 16 x 8 +50 offset (4 x 25.4 + 50 = 151.6mm)
The wheels you mentioned if available in the correct bolt pattern are:
17 x 7 +40 (3.5 x 25.4 + 40 = 128.9)
17 x 9 +35 (4.5 x 25.4 + 35 = 149.3)
This means your fronts will be 23mm less flush than stock and have less backspacing than stock.
And the rears will be 2.3mm less flush than stock with 12.7mm of extra backspacing, which is known to not be a problem.
They will absolutely fit and will look like *** IMHO.
The above will give you the guidelines to figure out how to calculate what will fit. The lip size doesn't matter. Pick the wheel and you will have to select a tire size that works.
Search the forum to determine the maximum backspacing allowable on an FD and decide how flush you want to go.
Wheel diameter will only affect the tire profile you will have to go with to make it work. The larger the diameter = smaller tire profile, which = harsher ride.
There is a plethora of information on this forum with respect to what fits and how to figure out how flush you can go etc. You have to start searching and reading. Then once you have tried to learn something but are confused many people can offer you help. Asking questions without any effort to answer them yourself will not get you much cooperation from others.
Offset and width of the wheel are what matter.
1inch = 25.4mm
Stock FD wheels are 16 x 8 +50 offset (4 x 25.4 + 50 = 151.6mm)
The wheels you mentioned if available in the correct bolt pattern are:
17 x 7 +40 (3.5 x 25.4 + 40 = 128.9)
17 x 9 +35 (4.5 x 25.4 + 35 = 149.3)
This means your fronts will be 23mm less flush than stock and have less backspacing than stock.
And the rears will be 2.3mm less flush than stock with 12.7mm of extra backspacing, which is known to not be a problem.
They will absolutely fit and will look like *** IMHO.
The above will give you the guidelines to figure out how to calculate what will fit. The lip size doesn't matter. Pick the wheel and you will have to select a tire size that works.
Search the forum to determine the maximum backspacing allowable on an FD and decide how flush you want to go.
Wheel diameter will only affect the tire profile you will have to go with to make it work. The larger the diameter = smaller tire profile, which = harsher ride.
There is a plethora of information on this forum with respect to what fits and how to figure out how flush you can go etc. You have to start searching and reading. Then once you have tried to learn something but are confused many people can offer you help. Asking questions without any effort to answer them yourself will not get you much cooperation from others.
02-11-10, 08:48 PM
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There is a plethora of information on this forum with respect to what fits and how to figure out how flush you can go etc. You have to start searching and reading. Then once you have tried to learn something but are confused many people can offer you help. Asking questions without any effort to answer them yourself will not get you much cooperation from others.
I dont want to sound crude but by trending your threads I get the feeling you have no idea what you got yourself into....I hope Im wrong of course.
Cheers
02-12-10, 06:00 AM
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Charn, you sure that math is right? Seems off to me.
Stock fc is 16x 7 +40 which equals out to 128.9 and that doesnt even sit flush on it.
Now I have +50mm fenders in the rear, which means I guess I could run upto 178.9mm
Now some 17x12ccw's with 0 offset would only equal out to 152.4. *scratches head* that doesn't seem legit.
Stock fc is 16x 7 +40 which equals out to 128.9 and that doesnt even sit flush on it.
Now I have +50mm fenders in the rear, which means I guess I could run upto 178.9mm
Now some 17x12ccw's with 0 offset would only equal out to 152.4. *scratches head* that doesn't seem legit.
02-12-10, 07:34 AM
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Upon further reflection the math is still right but the equation was wrong. Even though it is a positive offset you have to minus it from the centre bore line.
So it should read:
Stock FD wheels are 16 x 8 +50 offset (4 x 25.4 - 50 = 51.6mm)
The wheels you mentioned if available in the correct bolt pattern are:
17 x 7 +40 (3.5 x 25.4 - 40 = 48.9)
17 x 9 +35 (4.5 x 25.4 - 35 = 79.3)
This means your fronts will be 2.7mm less flush than stock.
And the rears will be 27.7mm more flush than stock.
On the CCW example of the 12 inch wheel versus the stock FC wheel.
It would therefore be:
Stock FC 16 x 7 +40 (3.5 x 25.4 - 40 = 48.9)
CCW 17 x 12 ET 0 (6 x 25.4 - 0 = 152.4)
Therefore 103.5mm further out towards the fender than stock.
Plus you would have to calculate the backspacing on that one too since it is a big difference from stock.
Been a year since I did these equations so forgive my initial error.
So it should read:
Stock FD wheels are 16 x 8 +50 offset (4 x 25.4 - 50 = 51.6mm)
The wheels you mentioned if available in the correct bolt pattern are:
17 x 7 +40 (3.5 x 25.4 - 40 = 48.9)
17 x 9 +35 (4.5 x 25.4 - 35 = 79.3)
This means your fronts will be 2.7mm less flush than stock.
And the rears will be 27.7mm more flush than stock.
On the CCW example of the 12 inch wheel versus the stock FC wheel.
It would therefore be:
Stock FC 16 x 7 +40 (3.5 x 25.4 - 40 = 48.9)
CCW 17 x 12 ET 0 (6 x 25.4 - 0 = 152.4)
Therefore 103.5mm further out towards the fender than stock.
Plus you would have to calculate the backspacing on that one too since it is a big difference from stock.
Been a year since I did these equations so forgive my initial error.
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02-14-10, 11:58 AM
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1. Search the board to find out exactly what is the maximum you can force out the backspacing from stock.
2. Search the board to find out the maximum you can push out a wheel within the stock fenders.
You need to know the answer to the above first then you can figure out which wheels, sizes etc. to buy.
