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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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Have never tried to load a video....but will try to figure it out. Meanwhile, loosing fuel pressure once car starts....power to pump shuts off. ? Guess have to wire pump to battery...
better to run an independent wire from alternator to a 30 amp automotive relay to fuel pump and use the stock fuel pump wire or similar to trigger the relay.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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Was going to run it to the battery....is there a difference? Was going to go to the battery so I wouldn't have to tear apart the wire job I did to alt/dizzy/coolant sensor...
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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hook it up to the engine fuse box @ 80amp terminal
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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What's to stop the fuel pump from running in the event of an engine stall? Or worse, an accident. I never did understand carbs or older cars... On a car with an ECU, if there is no RPM, the pump does not run.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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you can always install an oil pressure switch between the ignition and relays trigger. IIRC its made by holley... no pressure no fuel pump
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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80AMP terminal it is!
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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So I hooked up relay to fuel pump....to get direct power to pump....same issue. No fuel pressure once car starts. I've done the search....to no avail. Anyone know which two wires (positive/negative) to pump? There is the pigtail with four wires....I haven't been able to find which two I need and I don't want to lose the gauge if the other wires operate sending unit.
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 08:15 AM
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are you saying fuel pump turns on but looses pressure when engine is running?
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 08:56 AM
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It looses voltage once it fires....thought it might be due to eliminating some of the fuel injection wiring. Was thinking of just wiring it straight and putting it on a toggle switch.
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 09:19 AM
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just run a toggle switch to control the relay for now. ignition wire so it will be off without the key. what brand/psi pump are you using?
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 09:42 AM
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Factory pump...Mallory 4309 regulator....I was planning on the relay....but through the factory wiring...it does the same thing as before I ran the direct power wire...so I was thinking just power and ground to pump..
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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PSI I am setting at 4...
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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Anyone have the designation of the wires on pigtail for pump? I think they are Red, Black, Black/white, black/?.....just looking for some help with direct wiring to pump to get this thing fired up....Diagram I found said to do this:

Cut white/red wire on harness to splice in the relay (30 side), splice a ground wire from black wire, to ground for opposite ends of the relay of course....but no on power...still quits. Assuming I just need to eliminate the factory wiring to the pump pigtail. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this please.
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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when you ported the exhaust, did your motor heave the exhaust flow channels?
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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and if so how far did you take them down?
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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The motor was already built...but they were removed...nice huge opening...
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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Can't get no love on the forum? No one has ever put a toggle switch on factory pump without using a relay? Four wires on pigtail....should only need two...
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 82BUCKET
Anyone have the designation of the wires on pigtail for pump? I think they are Red, Black, Black/white, black/?.....just looking for some help with direct wiring to pump to get this thing fired up....Diagram I found said to do this:

Cut white/red wire on harness to splice in the relay (30 side), splice a ground wire from black wire, to ground for opposite ends of the relay of course....but no on power...still quits. Assuming I just need to eliminate the factory wiring to the pump pigtail. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this please.
alternator-fuse-#30 relay
87 or 87a-fuel pump
86-ignition 12v
85-ground
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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Got the right info thanks to Siraniko....big props! Hope tonight is the night to finally break in new motor and go for a spin!! Any quick tips on how to post vids from phone?
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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 09:13 AM
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Got it figured out!!! FIRED UP!!! This thing sounds nasty!! One more hour of break in and need to get a better throttle set up....want to try and figure out how to load a video too.

For anyone looking for wiring straight to pump....looks like its the SOLID black for ground....and black/white for power. Thanks for all the help Siraniko!!
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 11:06 AM
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Got it figured out!!! FIRED UP!!! This thing sounds nasty!! One more hour of break in and need to get a better throttle set up....want to try and figure out how to load a video too.

For anyone looking for wiring straight to pump....looks like its the SOLID black for ground....and black/white for power. Thanks for all the help Siraniko!!
Good to hear its running now As for uploading a video, you can use Youtube's app for your phone. You can upload the recorded video straight that way. You can also just plug your phone into a pc and upload from there as well.
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Old Aug 26, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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Would love to see some close up of throttle linkages. Found the Systec, the Weber over carb/under carb....anything custom out there to get to WOT successfully? SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT!
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Old Aug 26, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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i made this simple but effective throttle cable bracket for my sons fb with 48dco which is similar to yours. goes on top of the inspection plate
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Old Aug 26, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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as a temp fix use an alternator or smog pump bracket
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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Does the hole location need to be parallel to the elbow on the carb? Seems like to get to WOT it would need to be below?...
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