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Old 05-06-12, 09:53 PM
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TX Original Honolulu, HI 1987 Turbo II restoration/build up

Initial investment 825$ + 40$ in diesel fuel for my UD 2000 Turbo

included in the deal

Custom Suspension Specialty springs "made in TX" and KYB struts 20k miles on both

Fuel cut off eliminator installed by RX7.com

Rebuilt ECU by RX7.com

3 pc Factory bra

Late 80's Pacific 5 pc body kit missing the 6th pc "Glass sunroof" this kit has been out of production for a long time and a rare find.

All Factory manuals and booklets included , spare tire , aluminum jack and roadside kit

Receipts from the year 1993 and up for all upgrades , repairs and regular maintenance

Hawaii Title in hand w/ original warranty booklet stating mileage at original purchase time (24) miles

Minor rust issues "surface only for small areas near the turbo ect ect" except sunroof will need a replacement " pretty much light easy fixes for a car that is 25 years old and had been sitting for 12 of them

140k miles on the clock

Engine was pulled for a rebuild but never returned to the car , not a big deal I plan to use a Eunos Cosmo engine rather then go back to stock trim.

Missing the ABS unit and the engine harness was cut right at the engine so it may or could be used for the swap depending on what I do.

No radiator or MAF sensor , all accessories went with the motor " donor motor should come with everything I would need anyway "
This build will be slow starting mid summer , and taking hopefully 6 -12 months turn key and longer for details on paint and body reconditioning

Plan to use this car for weekend warrior , SCCA solo 2 and possibly a little drifting

Stay tuned for more !
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TX Shots of the original old school Pacific Body Kit

A few shots of the Pacific body kit in decent condition except for the 2 cracks in the front piece and some poor quality patch work on the rear piece , basically the whole kit needs to be removed and restored to look clean again. I may end up selling the kit so keep your eyes open on the forum for that. There are definitely better looking kits out there but this has a lot of historical value as to the earliest kits available during the production years of the S4 FC3S.
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TX Original Ad shots of the Pacific body kit

All thanks goes to one of our members DonaldC for identifying this kit , big help there buddy!
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A music video fitting to the crazy 1980's 1st and 2nd gen rotor heads we all are. You know you can't help but get up and pull the peanut butter jelly dance to this!

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Update , had a new key made at Mazda for 9$ and some change and found a perfect fit except the drivers door won't unlock, good everywhere else. Also noted the fuel door won't open cable must be broken ect and the hood needs adjustment. Will need some work on the right door , panel has been removed hanging by just the top part , door handle doesnt open that door. Also found the inside triangular trim peice for the right mirror is cracked almost in half and the radio trim is cracked at the very top. Found that the radio had been replaced with another factory peice as well as various electrical switches , have all the originals. Radio antenna broken. The totally rad Pacific rear spoiler is loose on the right side.
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Temp fix for all minor rust issues, sprayed tramsformer sealer to stop everything dead in its tracks for the mean time. Used rubber coating on sunroof as I poked I a small hole in it when I was inspecting the entire body/suspension for cancer at time of purchase. Very solid she is for her age. Its her 25th birthday and so all you 10th AE guys can drool yours is next. Giving the car a fitting name Honosaka , original right? lol cheers , Josh
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I invite everyones thoughts and wisdom on this project, so feel free to take a crack on here, I am always an open book.
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Engine bay rust repair, and clean up is on the top of my list, photos and vids coming soon. Need to locate some belly pans from somewhere. If I remember correctly there are 2 pieces , one is plastic and the other metal, it was an optional aero add on I think, please correct me if you know more about it.
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TX Engine bay before shots

Wow! What a freaking mess , clean up time !
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Originally Posted by Rotaryunderground
Wow! What a freaking mess , clean up time !
The story of the missing engine was that the 3rd owner had a High School shop class pull the motor, honestly the engine bay looks more like a theft recovery to me....he stated that he wanted a 300 hp engine but wasnt willing to pay 3500$ for it. I can see money being an issue but why suffer a complete loss of parts over it? Its a shame really, Chris and RE down at Rotary Performance (www.RX7.com) would have given him a great running motor for the price. Ah well , his loss is my gain here and besides, a 94 and up JDM engine will look so much better under the hood.
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Have you sourced out all the parts for the 13b-re you're planning on putting in there?

And if you're using a 13b-re, go ahead and sell the stock ECU that you got with the car (rebuilt by Rx7.com). It's probably going to be easier to get a standalone ECU for it as well, but it's not impossible to use the 13b-re ECU. Difficult, but not impossible.
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I almost picked this car up.. At the time he wanted too much money for it.

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TX S4 TII RE Swap

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Have you sourced out all the parts for the 13b-re you're planning on putting in there?

And if you're using a 13b-re, go ahead and sell the stock ECU that you got with the car (rebuilt by Rx7.com). It's probably going to be easier to get a standalone ECU for it as well, but it's not impossible to use the 13b-re ECU. Difficult, but not impossible.
I have a plan for either Cosmo engines, I have several vendors saved in my browser for conversion parts such as motor mounts, upgraded fuel system and I have a general idea for aftermarket radiators / intercoolers / piping which I may end up using some JDM parts there as well. In the end the 13B-RE Cosmo engine will be a cheaper yet very potent power plant vs installing an FD 13B-REW which is just as easy to do but alot more costly to swap in and upgrade. On average I have found the FD engine is 800$ more to swap into an FC at minimum. Reason why, most FD's have no automatic rear counter weight, costly upgrade for FD fuel rail vs RE, FD swap mounts are $300 + while the RE swap mounts run around $170 Power Potential is about the same when porting the engine. "I do not have specs in front of me atm" The RE has a better flowing intake building boost very fast "Altho the primary ports are smaller the secondaries are much larger then the FD, then add in an extrude hone on that already killer RE intake. Love the way the RE intake looks vs the FD too. If you do have a vendor list or additional tips please feel free to share the love , Josh
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I almost picked this car up.. At the time he wanted too much money for it.

Good luck.
I pounded the price down with ease hoping to walk away happy and boy did I ever I couldnt wait to shuttle it home, sit in the drivers seat and make engine noises like I was a kid again... But now knowing how rare Hawaii 1st run S4 TIIs are + the Pacific body kit w/ the over all solid condition ect ect I really think its worth a whole hell of alot more to the right person. This car, upgrades and history could pull somewhere around $ 2500-3000 and up. I would say a bit more if it had the original motor in running condition. But for me and many others its the perfect base for a S4 TII JDM motor swap build. People love the history project Honosaka has. You just cant find a car like this every day but on the other hand alot of people don't really know what they have sitting in their back yards. I regard the RX-7 highly and always will against its JDM competition. These cars are so unique as are the people who own them like me and you. Oh and bro I noticed you do window glass, I need to find new trim for the front and sides can you locate some? Josh
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The only vendor I know that sells the RE mount conversion kit is Banzai Racing. Sounds like you've done your research at least! I look forward to more progress.

What engine management are you looking at? I use MegaSquirt, which is a DIY engine management. I built mine from a kit, but you can get one pre-assembled for a little extra if you don't feel comfortable soldering. I love the versatility of the MegaSquirt. There is so much more control with this ECU than most others out there. If there's something extra you feel like adding later on, it's as simple as pulling the ECU out and soldering in a few connections and you now have whatever add-on you want. What's really desirable about it is how cheap it really is. I recommend giving it a look @ Diyautotune.com
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Well glad you got it... I was just going to part it out :/
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TX Do it yourself engine management for swaps on a budget

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The only vendor I know that sells the RE mount conversion kit is Banzai Racing. Sounds like you've done your research at least! I look forward to more progress.

What engine management are you looking at? I use MegaSquirt, which is a DIY engine management. I built mine from a kit, but you can get one pre-assembled for a little extra if you don't feel comfortable soldering. I love the versatility of the MegaSquirt. There is so much more control with this ECU than most others out there. If there's something extra you feel like adding later on, it's as simple as pulling the ECU out and soldering in a few connections and you now have whatever add-on you want. What's really desirable about it is how cheap it really is. I recommend giving it a look @ Diyautotune.com
Thanks for the tips sounds like I have some reading to look forward to! I really appreciate your knowledge on this subject as I really have not given this area much thought, I originally planned to use the stock ECU somehow but since I would like to get the most out of tuning/reliability/performance on a budget you may be onto something here. Josh
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Oh yeah, there's a TON of information on the forum here, but definitely read through DIYautotune's write ups. I think all together the kit, which even included a NEW wiring harness (which is a HUGE plus, since mine was 22 years old) and all the supporting modifications (stuff like the Zeal Daughterboard for running the dual VR sensor CAS that the FC has) it was just below $500. That's roughly 1/3 the cost of getting a new standalone from Apex'i or Haltech. If you're even slightly handy with a soldering iron and can do a little research, you can handle the MS. I don't regret it

It'll probably cost less for you, since the FD (most likely the 13b-RE too) has a single crank sensor by the front pulley.
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TX Save a seven/start a movement.

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Well glad you got it... I was just going to part it out :/
Oh hell no! Joking! I don't think that would fly around here, I always save my 7's unless everything is completely worn out and trashed due to a bad wreck, cancer, super high mileage or lack of care. This originally Japanese owned Tropical 87 TII "Honosaka" is a beauty inside and out. I'm starting the new save a seven movement right now! Josh P.S. Don't for get to vote on the poll I created on the top of page 1, thanks!
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TX RE MegaSquirt stand alone DIY engine management

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Oh yeah, there's a TON of information on the forum here, but definitely read through DIYautotune's write ups. I think all together the kit, which even included a NEW wiring harness (which is a HUGE plus, since mine was 22 years old) and all the supporting modifications (stuff like the Zeal Daughterboard for running the dual VR sensor CAS that the FC has) it was just below $500. That's roughly 1/3 the cost of getting a new standalone from Apex'i or Haltech. If you're even slightly handy with a soldering iron and can do a little research, you can handle the MS. I don't regret it

It'll probably cost less for you, since the FD (most likely the 13b-RE too) has a single crank sensor by the front pulley.
Yes, I can solder! "Which is something I highly recommend for everyone to learn who jumps into a project like this knee deep" Also my father works for Fujitsu Telecom and he is a genius when it comes to electrical hardware, would be a good weekend project to bring us closer together "Always a good thing for anyone to try if you have had a difficult time staying close to your loved ones"

Looks like just the type of thing I would be going for as I am the only one who will be working on this car for the most part except family or friends "Who can you trust right?", although tuning may be done at Rotary Performance (www.RX7.com) 20 minutes down the road. But if I can find a dyno day around the time I get an initial start up map loaded in, I will tow Honosaka over to a dyno of choice and attempt tuning myself to keep the budget tight and to increase bragging rights! Thanks , Josh
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I was just thinking out of the blue, wouldnt it be cool to take this car on a trip back to Honolulu, HI for a reunion someday. I tried contacting the original owner a few weeks ago but the story goes it was taken by force over owner #1 not footing the bill for what would become owner #2 an architect who did work for the Japanese guy who apparently lost more then just his TII in court... So I think he denied owning the car because of severe regret of that time in his life and I concur it would be difficult for anyone to want to talk about a touching subject like that. At the time this was a $25K state of the art sports coupe fresh of the shores of Japan to the USA and it had a solid winning streak of manufacturers championships. It had to be him I thought, still lived in the same zip code and I don't think Shoji Sakamoto is very common anywhere in the US of A. Needless to say our conversation was short and I thanked the man for his time stating that the car would be taken care of. Josh
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A reminder to owner/fans of the FC3S TII, share your build Ideas and please vote on the Pacific body kit poll! 2nd gen TII RX-7 owning Forum Admins/veterans who read this thread are required to do so. LOL Thanks Josh
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There's no post for "Take that body garbage off and replace it with S4 bumpers".

I don't like body kits about 99.9% of the time. It's not that it's an 80's body kit, it's just that I prefer the clean lines of the FC that it already has.

Remember, there's GOOD 1980's style :





and then there's this **** :





Yep. That's Kajagoogoo and Flock of Seagulls.

There's not even a fine line
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[QUOTE=AGreen;11086502]There's no post for "Take that body garbage off and replace it with S4 bumpers".

I don't like body kits about 99.9% of the time. It's not that it's an 80's body kit, it's just that I prefer the clean lines of the FC that it already has.

Remember, there's GOOD 1980's style :





and then there's this **** :





Yep. That's Kajagoogoo and Flock of Seagulls.

I agree that the FC has nice lines but for what it is in stock trim it can always be improved upon. I think the an agressive look is far more intimidating to people, in all its what you have in performance, dyno sheets, time slips and builder/drivers skill. For me its about taking a great car to another level all together. We should strive for what makes our cars unique and not settle for average run of the mill car, the RX-7 was ment to be thrilling.
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TX There's no post for "Take that body garbage off and replace it with S4 bumpers".

Originally Posted by AGreen

I don't like body kits about 99.9% of the time. It's not that it's an 80's body kit, it's just that I prefer the clean lines of the FC that it already has.

Remember, there's GOOD 1980's style :





and then there's this **** :





Yep. That's Kajagoogoo and Flock of Seagulls.

There's not even a fine line
The original bumpers are still on the car , everything is molded to fit the stock body of the S4. The Pacific kit is certainly not "garbage" it is a collectible Item for those interested in the 80's era of styling on the west coast because you won't find this kit just anywhere. It provides down force on the front and rear of the car and it was a fully functional kit. I disagree with removing the kit or not replacing it with something more updated and current. My view on the S4, "looks pretty dull with out either a front or rear spoiler installed". Josh


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