samjaza78

It's not an atrocious out-loud thought. I can't personally see any harm in the attempt.

On the ignition cables- if #1 leading (IIRC) is the broken one, yeah, it might be the problem.

meerkat8701

looks like ill be doing it alot until she starts. tbh im pretty sure that once she's started up some other problem will come up but thats the whole point i geuss. im starting to notice that despite myself, im learning. reading other threads on this forum have gone from greek to coherant script and that feels good! i have admittedly almost been living on this forum the last couple months.

the one that was broken was #2 leading so maybe it wasnt that.
just got off the phone to my buddy and getting a hold of some ignition cables might be easier than i thought. hope so anyway.

we also talked about some other small mods i might do under the winter months ill wait until im sure till i reveal them.

all of the symptoms point to ignition. if the timing was super-off, would it still ignite the start-spray?

`explicit`

I'm not sure how off it would have to be. I know one odd thing about my car was that before I had set the timing, the car started up every single time (cold, hot, etc.). After I set the timing to spec, it started having flooding issues.

Couldn't hurt to have the CAS loose and while someone's cranking, you turn it to either advance/retard it just to test.

Not too helpful but just thought I'd share my experience with it.

[Edit] Keep your hoodie strings away from the pulleys if you do this. Seriously.

meerkat8701

rx7s were definately built by gremlins..

any advice is helpful i appreciate any input. most of the people that have build threads on here seem to have at least a bit of previous experience. this is my first build so im thankful for any help/ideas i can get!

i had already tried the thing with the cas, several times. didnt get any response..
thats whats making me think that theres something skewiff with the timing.

i got quite a vivid picture of what could happen with the hoodie strings. ill be tucking em in from now on

i ended up driving to the other side of town again to a place i thought might have ignition cables but they only stock them for american cars. i think its easier to get parts for american cars from the seventies here than it is to get parts for japanese cars from the 80s/90s..

found them last nightnon a website and ordered them. accels in yellow. "RACE CABLES" apparently..

theyre in the south of sweden so should take a couple days to get here than i can continue in my investigations. i have a buddy whos nifty with car electronics and hes gna come by toward the end of the week to see if he can see anything that seems wierd.

it would be really nice to get the engine started now. most of the other stuff i want to do the car involve me taking the wheels off and i dont want to do that until i have her running.

been looking at some other bits and bobs and noticed that the coilovers i wanted have gone down in price since i started this project and with the discount i get from them it should bee considerably cheaper. im also going to be changing the bushings but i couldnt find powerflex for the fc. superflex was attainable and from the looks of my bushings, even if they were made out of toilet paper i would get a better feel. they are proper tatty no wonder the car felt like a boat when i went round corners

`explicit`

Have you checked each sensor's reading at the ECU yet?

meerkat8701

this is what i intend to do as soon as i get my ignition cables in the post. or do i need them to check?

`explicit`

You can test the sensors without the wires. Just put the ignition to 3 (on) and work your way through the pins for each sensor. Some will require the engine to be warmed up but for now, it'll be a good indicator for if you might have pinched/pulled some wires on connectors when you put the engine back in.

meerkat8701

cool thanks for the tips ill try it out tmrw!
ill update with my findings

clokker

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Time to call Father Karras.

samjaza78

Just a thought- could you hand spin this engine before you installed it?

meerkat8701

Please enlighten Me =)

meerkat8701

Not before i installed it but when it was in i cranked it for hand loads before i attempted to start it with the start motor. I only have experience of doing this with my rb26 but it felt like i received some Good resistance but i havent actually checked the compression with a meter.

meerkat8701

Now its happened again. There seems to be a habit among online carparts sellers here that like to parts on their websites that they dont even have. Half of them have at least the decency to write on their website that the parts are "in stock at the manufacturer" but Most of them seem to just write that they have it, then once you have paid and have been waiting for two Days without any Sign of an order confirmation, they then reply saying that theyre ordering it from japan/usa. I coulda done that myself ffs. I cant prove that theyre doing it on purpose but it does seem, in the Words of gollum, "tricksy".

I remembered that i have the email of a Guy here thats one of the moderators on the Swedish forum. Im hoping that he has them or can at least Hook Me up with someone that has them here in Sweden. There just has to be...

clokker

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Make your own damn cables, it's easy.
Surely some more "hot rod" oriented shops carry DIY cable kits for V-8s (you'd want the V-8 kit to make sure the cables were long enough).
The plug ends are already installed, you cut to length and install the coil ends yourself, a (crude) crimping jig is included.
There's nothing special about the RX cables, should be easy to do.

`explicit`

I had a few sentences typed up before I realized you were in Sweden...

You couldn't just order some online and had it shipped to you?

meerkat8701

thanks clokker! exactly the kind of answer i needed. im going to check with these guys at hansen racing (if anyone can call themselves hotrod oriented its them) and see if they have anything like that. if not the next question will be why the hell didnt they suggest them?
one of the guys at one of the first shops said that it depends what kind of tension the cables have. if i got a reading of 12v from the coils when i tried to start the engine, am i right in assuming that that is the tension i want on my cables then? i dont have a radio and dont intend on getting one anytime soon and even if i did i would be listening to my own music, not the radio.
i actually had bought these "diy" cables from my local autoparts store, but they didnt fit over my spark plugs and they didnt have any bigger ones. i went according to what i have read here on rx7club (thank god for rx7club by the way the swedish forums are as dead as a doornail) and bought the ngk´s. 2 bur9eq trailing and 2 bur7eq leading. it cant just be 13bs that use these kinds of spark plugs right?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-5553

i found these on hansen racing's website. if these are the ones ill be outside there door as soon as they open tmrw!

sometimes i wish i wasnt. these winters are looong and theres another one of those blitz cold buggers just around the corner. even if i get the car ready within the month i dont think ill be able to beat the snow ..

thats what i did hence my previous post. i dont see why they dont write on theyre websites that they dont have it in stock. a delivery from the south of sweden should take max 3 days but after 3 days i get a mail saying that theyre ordering them from overseas. i just think its a bit dodgy..

`explicit`

That sounds pretty painful... I guess from here on out you can just call and have them physically verify that they have said item in stock before placing your order? lol.

Thank God I'm in the states.

meerkat8701

true dat! yeah i think ive learnt my lesson. the worst thing is that there seems to be no signs of life whatsoever on the rotary scene here. its almost creepy. i know there are a bunch of fd owners out there but there dont seem to be many fc owners and they seem to be very good at keeping themselves to themselves or more likely are in the same situation as me.

just cos i wrote that theyre all probably gna come crawling out of the woodwork next summer.

im gna make sure mine is clawing at the door of the garage waiting to be let out by then!

rx7inLt

I dont know if you have thought about it but wouldnt you need spark plug wires for an FB since euro na fcs use a distributor?

meerkat8701

interesting..i have just assumed the whole time that all of the 6ports, u.s or otherwise, had a distributor. im not sure what type of model rx7 my manual is for tbh (im geussing its u.s) shows the distributor on top of the cas.

i sorted out the cables i previously mentioned from msd and they worked just fine.

i have a pretty heavy cold right now so i felt like **** but i thought i'd go and put the cables on anyway. while me and joel were there he suggested we try to pull start it again.

and geuss what?

SHE ACTUALLY STARTED!!

a short discription of my reaction involved me spreadeagled on top of my 7 kissing it while enwreathed in white smoke. got a few funny looks but it was worth it

we had problems keeping the revs up and she died a couple times and then she started overheating (this is most likely cos its been weeping from the freezeplug so i have to bleed her again tmrw) the oil pressure gauge dropped a little too so we turned her off straight away. i didnt see any leaks and so we decided to put her in for the night and do a proper start tmrw with a new battery and topped up fluids with the added advantage of daylight. its already started getting dark roundabout 5pm here so daylights becoming a precious commodity.

feels great to get over that hurdle and i have gathered more energy and patience to confront whatever it is that decides to muck about with me this time

all in all im pleased as punch!

clokker

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Yes.

You deserve this.

meerkat8701

Nice one clokker! =)

88fc3sT2

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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!

meerkat8701

Thanks man! I cant wait for tmrw =P

clokker

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Time passes more quickly when you use vowels.