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Old 01-25-14, 11:23 AM
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Celbii's Redsuns build

Hey everyone,
I have this going in a few other forums so I figured I would just copy everything over here. Its basically a replica redsuns build, nothing to fancy and staying N/A for track use.

I just recently purchased a white 88 NA FC3S, bone stock(besides some ghey wheels) and 126k on the orig motor.

My plans are to replicate the early RedSuns FC3S as close as I can. I can tell you right now however encase people want to rag on me for it, but it wont be a 100% replica lol. I plan on keeping the car non turbo, eventually getting it rebuilt next year when I can save up the funds and going with an aggressive street port. I am planning to shoot for 170WHP NA when all is said and done. So replica will mostly be bodywise.

Bad stuff about the car: High mileage, underbody has some pretty decent rust. Ghetto exhaust system, 4 lug, some other random stuff(leaky windshield etc). I need to be patient and try to find a 5 lug rust free parts car so I can swap over to the 5 lug setup, and with that the bigger front brakes since mine is just a base model with the single piston brakes all around. Also with a rust free parts car ill be able to slowly swap over all the suspension and brake lines, etc under the car to some rust free ones and change out bushings at the same time.

So here she sits as I got her a few weeks ago:



Now that I have my own house, bills, my gf etc, I don't have much money to toss into it like I used to be able to, so progress will be slow. I have already done some random stuff and when I take some pictures ill update it later this week.

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Just a quick update of some work i've done to it:
Engine bay overall, its a little dirty and parts are rusty now and not shiny :P
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This little contraption here allows me to operate my 5th and 6th ports analog style instead of buying rpm switches to do it electronically. Its not the prettiest thing in the world but overall my cost to make it including hoses and everything was probably $30, well worth it for working 5th and 6th ports. It runs off the airpump and you adjust the air dump valve based on the correct rpm (3800) to make it open. Have to remove the ACV and block it off to do this.
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My Bonez intake kit. gives you the adapter and filter. I need to take it off though and oil it since its a K&N and doesn't come pre oiled, luckily I don't drive the car that much so its okay at the moment. Also made some custom brackets for it so I could keep the MAF mounted straight up instead of sideways like the provided brackets mount it. And yes it is missing a hose clamp around it, the filter is a super super makes me rage tight fit and the supplied hose clamp was too small once it was on the maf adapter. One day before it gets too hot i'll try to make a cold air box for it, but for now its fine.
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So today I got the momo race installed, and got my horn to work. The NRG quick release 3.0 that I bought used off ebay was missing the horn contacts plate on one part of it for whatever dumb reason, and I didn't even think of it when I bought it. LUCKILY the momo race I got off craigslist had half a quick release attached to it(He told me he took it out of his wrecked 240 at the yard, but im thinking now it was probably just jacked >_>) and I was able to pull the horn contact plate off of it and install it into my nice quick release, so that random half of a quick release that I thought was just junk turned out to be very damn useful lol.
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I also installed a double din radio a few weeks ago to get rid of the OEM cassette player, and now I can listen to my initial D super euro beats lol! Stock interior overall is very nice, and even though there is a gap above the player it doesn't bother me at all, at least the surround isnt all cracked and falling apart like most of them. I'll fill that in one day.
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I also took off my ACV block off plate today, made a new gasket for it and got the proper sized screws from the hardware store so I don't have long screws with tons of washers sticking out holding it down. It fixed a small vacuum leak I had there.

Took the car out for a spin down a street nearby and it felt awesome, fixed vacuum leak and cold air gave me some nices powa and the car felt great, It will feel even better sometime next year when it gets rebuilt with an aggressive street port But for now it sleeps far away until I work on it again next week lol.
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Got the reps in today. They are nicer than I expected. Look and almost feel like the real things. Have all the correct tags and stickers also. The only thing on them that would give me any doubt is the plastic ratcheting handles arent an exact fit on the rod so they have a little slop before they start turning, other than that I can see why people are very easily fooled by these lol. Fit me pretty darn well also they are tiny.

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We got the drivers side installed on a whim yesterday, took us the better half of the day to custom everything to mate them up to the oem rails. Passenger side wont be going in any time soon since its even more of a PITA to do, I may just try to find some sort of rails for it.

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Small updates.

Switched to a momo tuner wheel, sold the race. I ordered a seat rail from bride of japan a week ago so waiting for that to be made and shipped so I can install the passenger seat.
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Put together a custom exhaust. Its racing beat headers to racing beat pre silencer to an apexi dual passenger side exit muffler i bought off some forum. However it was short a bit since they obviously aren't designed to work together and the apexi is for a dual system. so ive had it down for about three weeks now, and my friend came over today and welded me up a piece of pipe to go in between.
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Heres the old exhaust that was on there.



I haven't got to really drive the car around yet, but moving it it sounded nice so thats good. thats all for now.
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Did a quick sound clip of the exhaust last night.

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And my last post yesterday, sorry for all the posting in a row, was just going through a thread copying each one I made through various pages. Thanks!

Got my second seat in after some overnight parts from japan.

Bride seat rail
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clean!
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ha overnight parts from japan..
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1. The redsuns fc had grey and what appeared to be fixed back seats
2. it doesn't have a canon style exhaust more a traditional muffler with offset short tip
3. not to mention left hand drive and as you mentioned turbo,

seams to me your about to slap some stickers on it and call it a replica....
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Originally Posted by squeakm
1. The redsuns fc had grey and what appeared to be fixed back seats
2. it doesn't have a canon style exhaust more a traditional muffler with offset short tip
3. not to mention left hand drive and as you mentioned turbo,

seams to me your about to slap some stickers on it and call it a replica....
"My plans are to replicate the early RedSuns FC3S as close as I can. I can tell you right now however encase people want to rag on me for it, but it wont be a 100% replica lol. I plan on keeping the car non turbo, eventually getting it rebuilt next year when I can save up the funds and going with an aggressive street port. I am planning to shoot for 170WHP NA when all is said and done. So replica will mostly be bodywise. "
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Looks really good. Love those seats.
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Minor updates:
No rear strut bar before
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Rear strut bar after (don't mind the box, P/O installed it, and I keep it in there since it sounds a bit better and its not like I do any hardcore driving on the street lol)
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Also put together a custom Re-Amemiya shift ****, since I didnt want to spend around ~120-130 it would have costed from japan. The heavy shift **** feels great, and shifting is alot better.

Heres the original for comparison.
RE Amemiya - Carbon Shift **** - 400g - Nengun Performance

The base **** that uses (Note: base **** is universal and fits all cars, the genuine RE **** says fits only s5+, fd,rx8 etc, so no idea if it is hard threaded.)
Razo RA66 Black/Dark Chrome 400 Grams Carbon Manual Shift **** : Amazon.com : Automotive Razo RA66 Black/Dark Chrome 400 Grams Carbon Manual Shift **** : Amazon.com : Automotive

Then a custom resin badge from aus land, size 24mm. (Razo badge is around 24.5mm I rounded down to 24mm and it fits near perfect, with about zero play, if you wanted to play it safe you could go around 23.5mm)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RE-AMEMIYA-ROTARY-BADGE-STICKER-DECAL-RX7-RX3-RX8-13B-/200801852030?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ec0b91a7e&vxp=mtr

End results:


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Random interior shot lol
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Since this is an important part in building the replica, i'm having a guy on a local forum make these for me, just need to pick them up now, and wait for it to get warmer than 10 degrees so I can wash the car lol.
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Installed my stance coilovers last week. Car is a bit stiff but way better than the dead stockers :P

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Time for some bigger wheels! Very clean though, btw, how do you like that momo steering wheel?
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Originally Posted by 88fc3sT2
Time for some bigger wheels! Very clean though, btw, how do you like that momo steering wheel?
I Agree on the wheels :P I've been trying to find a 5 lug parts car for a while so I can redo all the suspension then swap it over.

The momo wheel is great.
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Redsuns FC was Series 5. You need new trim and bumpers.
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Originally Posted by lambof.god
Redsuns FC was Series 5. You need new trim and bumpers.
Really??? I had no idea!! Thanks!!
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Well you would think the stickers would be the last thing to put on to finish off the build. That, or maybe buy an S5 turbo car? I guess some people just can't resist putting stickers all over everything. To each their own!
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As an S4 fan I'm liking it.
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Redsun is s4 with s5 moldings and rear lights. You can tell because the cluster was an s4.
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Or a S5 with S4 cluster :P
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Originally Posted by lambof.god
Well you would think the stickers would be the last thing to put on to finish off the build. That, or maybe buy an S5 turbo car? I guess some people just can't resist putting stickers all over everything. To each their own!
Originally Posted by celbii
Hey everyone,
I have this going in a few other forums so I figured I would just copy everything over here. Its basically a replica redsuns build, nothing to fancy and staying N/A for track use.


My plans are to replicate the early RedSuns FC3S as close as I can. I can tell you right now however encase people want to rag on me for it, but it wont be a 100% replica lol. I plan on keeping the car non turbo, eventually getting it rebuilt next year when I can save up the funds and going with an aggressive street port. I am planning to shoot for 170WHP NA when all is said and done. So replica will mostly be bodywise.
And I guess some people cant be bothered to pull their head out their *** and read. I know what the car had on it better than 99% of most people. That being said, I have already stated whats in the quote and im not made of money. Whats wrong with putting the stickers on? I had them custom made for a very good price so I got them on and out of the way, since I don't plan to paint the moldings at the very moment nor do I have a parts car to redo all my suspension with.

Anyways try reading next time before you jump to conclusions about people, thanks.

Originally Posted by AlbinoGlowStick
As an S4 fan I'm liking it.
Thanks Albino
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Nice build so far. Nice quality parts. You don't see much of that on fc's


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