classicauto

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Actually - no. See I've tried it. We've done lots of FG flares for customers and I apply Dominion Sure Seal products - Enviro Liner and Elephant Hyde. Final mil thickness is just under 1/4" and yes, you'll get starbursts from stones....not as easily as if no bedliner were applied, but a fender liner is the end all solution.

I wouldn't spout BS - I've done it. Latest example was some FG fenders on an old Navistar transport with Elephant hyde....

The problem is that the bedliner will flex, fiberglass doesn't. The only way to completely stop it is to seperate the impact area from the fiberglass surface you're protecting. End of story. Your truck bed is COMPLETELY different from a fiberglass fender

No comment on tucking tires after inner fenders are made up. Juiceh's going to do what he wants anyways - I'm just trying to let him know from experience that doing the bedliner will still leave him with the chance of rock damage on his FG fenders.

EJayCe996

Basically the plastic fender liners were his intent when the issue became apparent, so wtf are you talking about? SOME of ALL the people here he shouldn't listen to either have a body shop, are the original person behind these fenders, or knew someone who had this issue and remembered how they went about it and threw it out there as a plausible alternative. You'll eventually learn that not all advice is BAD advice but advice to keep you from making the same mistake that someone already learned from.

Juiceh

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No those are on the other side. Theres something about the very trailing edge of the spoiler. Look closely.

LoL I wish!

LoL what? By the time I'm done with them the fender liners will be completley removable. They will also be modified to fit whatever tire I want... Your gripes are totally irrelevant.


Actually the body shop owner suggested this idea months ago.

RX-Heven

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Regarding fender liners, just by a sheet of soft acrylic and cut to fit. It is the easiest and most effective solution and is relatively inexpensive. Sheets can be had in many colors, thicknesses and textures from sources like Tap Plastics.

You could also run some mud flaps

MaczPayne

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Juice, don't tell me you put LED's in that spoiler as a 3rd brake light!?

If that's the case, then HOLY SMOKES!

Hypertek

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ok its cool. Still gonna keep the brake duct scoops functional right?
I dont think you would have to worry about damaging the insides of the fg fenders unless your planin to drive on some shitty roads/offroading, which i doubt this car will even see.

Widebody Porsche 911s dont even have fender lining
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1209513277.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1209513610.jpg

Turbo II Rotor

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You're completely right. Posting 2 pictures of 1 persons unfinished widebody Porsche that DOESNT EVEN HAVE PAINT proves you don't need fender liners. Keep up the good work.

SouthSideSlider

in realy dont know why you are soi anti innerfenders but why would he skip anywhere on this biuld this thing has been nothing but perfection the whole way though. why Halfass your fenders.

Hypertek

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ok i said its cool, i was just showing that fender linings arent really needed.
Its more just a "added luxury" to the quality of the build.
But spraying it with a protective layer of something like bedliner does sound good =D

Those pics where from a quick google search, even if the car isnt finished, porsches of that setup dont rock em, some of them are fiberglass fenders too.
http://members.rennlist.com/bazzalan...e_SSI_view.jpg

I figure you could probably make some fender linings by joining 2 together though

Turbo II Rotor

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Juiceh

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Thats a very nice idea. I just looked at the Tap site. I can probably get them to cut me some custom sizes. Thanks for the info Dave.

Of course.

While I don't WANT to drive the car through crappy roads with rocks & debris it is sometimes simply unavoidable. You can find a perfectly clear route free of rocks and debris for your daily commute and take that every day. However, you can't stop that dump truck full of rocks from driving down that same route while dribbling rocks & pebbles the entire way. Pebbles and gravel on the road aren't easy to see when your moving at a good clip. It is also not advisable to swerve to avoid such things all the time too.

That is obviously not a finished car at all. The owner has not even gotten to a point where the issues we are discussing will become relevant to him. I bet you he will be sorry if he continues to drive his car on that gravel driveway after its been painted and he doesn't put liners under his fenders. He may not drive that fast up and down his driveway though.

There are people in this thread who actually own their own body shop(Hi Joe!) and have seen the damage that can occur from not protecting the underside of a FG fender. My body guy really wants me to protect the underside of the FG because they have first hand experience with this stuff as well. Why are you even trying to argue with this?

You know, you may be right. I may not ever actually need them. But, I look at it as a little bit of insurance to cover the "in case ****..." factor.

This pic shows NOTHING of value for your argument. You can't even see above the wheels to know if there is anything there or not.

BINGO! Thats a 36 inch by 1/4 inch "window" of resin in the trailing edge of the wing. A 36 inch by 1/4 inch flexible waterproof strip of red LEDs will be mounted behind it for a 3rd brake light.

I got the idea after taking the Tamon wing out of the packaging and looking it over. You see, the Tamon wing was so crappy that if you held it up to the light and looked through the underside you could actually see light coming through the seem where the top and rear of the spoiler were joined with resin. I guess they never fully gel coated it after that. So I came up with the idea to try to remove the gel coat further and create a window if possible or cut out a small section and refill it with resin to create the window to mount the LEDs behind. The 2nd route(cutting & refilling with resin) is what we ended up doing.

MaczPayne

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Awesome, just plain awesome.

EJayCe996

Well ****, it looked to me like it was just reflecting something from above

SouthSideSlider

any updates?

rowtareh?

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You better make it to the Kan session in St.Louis in November.

Juiceh

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Mid day Yesterday:














Wet sanded & buffed 2x. No orange peel anywhere. Oh so shiny! ******* thing is like a mirror, it reflects everything!

If its done and running it will be there.

SouthSideSlider

i cant wait to see this thing finished i am truly amazed by it.

RX-Heven

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Did the area above the windshield get painted?

Juiceh

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Yep, they did that when they did the door jams. They took the glass out and took care of that whole area.

I'll drop by the shop tomorrow. I gotta take my turn signal lenses to them so they can darken them up a bit with some body color and clear. I keep forgetting to do that. They are also going to do that for 1 set of my tail lights.

SouthSideSlider

question: what are you doing brake wise? have you seen Project7's Evo brembo thread?

Juiceh

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See post #59 & 98 in this thread.

FirstRotaryExp

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Damn Juiceh the color seems to be a dark blue/purple metallic in the pics, care to enlighten me on its true nature? But it looks great so far, best use of hard earned money ive seen in a while.

Viking War Hammer

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Damn, nice........

BOOSTD7 would love this ! He loves Purple!

Juiceh

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Tails lightly smoked with body color & plate surround painted body color:

^You can also see my mirrors in the background in the upper right above the SL500's trunk.





There's not enough room to get a straight shot of the rear from farther back than 6 feet.



Almost looks a little like carbon fiber doesn't it:


RB Wing tweaking:

The ends of the RB wing sit about 1/8 of an inch above the quarter panels. The shop owner was concerned about the trunk being slammed and the wing ends whack against the quarter panels. I personally will be very careful with the trunk because I've though of this myself. But you never know, I may have to let my brother borrow the car or something and he could use the trunk and slam it harder than it needs t be. Considering the fact that I will be using a single trunk shock that is stronger than both the stockers it will be a little harder to close so this could be a real concern. So the shop owner is adding a little bit more glass to the pedestals si that it has 1/4 inch of clearance on the ends.

The color has some deep blueish pearl to it. Looks like almost a burple pearl.

For the most part its black\sliverish with a blue hue. The paint does awesome things in the sunlight. But its not that purple chameleon paint you see on alot of cars.

drftwerks

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chicken wire/mesh makes the car look cheap, change it.