Building Lotus Esprit style hatch for my FC
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Building Lotus Esprit style hatch for my FC
Well here it is New Years Eve 2011 few hours before going back to work after a week n half off from work. Finally got my new garage organized and well had a project in mind for awhile. Starting to build a Lotus Esprit style hatch for my FC. I've seen an old hatch from Japan in one of my Hyper Tec mags and really wanted one like it. So i decided to build it.
Looked up the Lotus hatch and did a couple of drawings a few days ago, but I'm winging this for the most part. Going to build the sides and over the rear window wing using the window as a mold and then next week go out and buy a sheet of 3/8 FRP to build the flat parts with.
Today I took the window out of the frame and cleaned off most of the window glue crap off the window. Did a test patch on the inside of the glass to see if the can of PAM I had would work good as a releasing agent for the glass.
Covered the window in PAM and laid the first layer of fiberglass mat....
Been awhile since I've played with bodykits and fiberglass. So this hopefully will work out and not cost me an arm n a leg to make. Thinking its only gonna cost me about 250 to 300 to finish it and several hours to have something different. Keep you all up dated with pictures and update on how it's going.
Have a safe and good start to your 2012 year RX7Club forum!
Looked up the Lotus hatch and did a couple of drawings a few days ago, but I'm winging this for the most part. Going to build the sides and over the rear window wing using the window as a mold and then next week go out and buy a sheet of 3/8 FRP to build the flat parts with.
Today I took the window out of the frame and cleaned off most of the window glue crap off the window. Did a test patch on the inside of the glass to see if the can of PAM I had would work good as a releasing agent for the glass.
Covered the window in PAM and laid the first layer of fiberglass mat....
Been awhile since I've played with bodykits and fiberglass. So this hopefully will work out and not cost me an arm n a leg to make. Thinking its only gonna cost me about 250 to 300 to finish it and several hours to have something different. Keep you all up dated with pictures and update on how it's going.
Have a safe and good start to your 2012 year RX7Club forum!
#4
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What, the stock B-pillars didn't obstruct rear vision enough?
I've actually seen one of the "Lotus style" rear decks on a 7 in the junkyard.
Not only can't you see anything out the back but the interior was much darker than normal and I'm guessing much noisier as well.
I will grant that it was nicely made, with a finished inner shell bonded to the exterior form and seemingly filled with foam...it was quite heavy. The stock hatch struts (the yard car had none) couldn't possibly have worked.
Other than "unique", I don't see what this project does for you.
Worse vision and reduced cargo space are a given, the effect on chassis aero and interior soundscape, unknown.
Visually, you're adding a ton of "weight" to the rear of the profile- have you done a side profile sketch yet?- and you're also eliminating one of the RX's most distinctive (albeit generally unheralded) engineering solutions.
Did you know that when introduced the S4 rear hatch glass was the largest OEM production piece ever made in Japan?
They were quite proud of it apparently.
Happy New Year to you too.
Even though I think this will end badly, I'll be following anyway because I like to see **** being built.
I've actually seen one of the "Lotus style" rear decks on a 7 in the junkyard.
Not only can't you see anything out the back but the interior was much darker than normal and I'm guessing much noisier as well.
I will grant that it was nicely made, with a finished inner shell bonded to the exterior form and seemingly filled with foam...it was quite heavy. The stock hatch struts (the yard car had none) couldn't possibly have worked.
Other than "unique", I don't see what this project does for you.
Worse vision and reduced cargo space are a given, the effect on chassis aero and interior soundscape, unknown.
Visually, you're adding a ton of "weight" to the rear of the profile- have you done a side profile sketch yet?- and you're also eliminating one of the RX's most distinctive (albeit generally unheralded) engineering solutions.
Did you know that when introduced the S4 rear hatch glass was the largest OEM production piece ever made in Japan?
They were quite proud of it apparently.
Happy New Year to you too.
Even though I think this will end badly, I'll be following anyway because I like to see **** being built.
#5
More would of gotten done today, but Had to spend time with the Girl. Did get a little bit accomplished though.
Trimmed around the edges and sanded down. Just got done laying the second coat of fiberglass sheet down. tomorrow sand it smooth and pop it from its mold and lay fiberglass mat on the back side.
Trimmed around the edges and sanded down. Just got done laying the second coat of fiberglass sheet down. tomorrow sand it smooth and pop it from its mold and lay fiberglass mat on the back side.
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thinking of adding a 3rd tail light in the window spoiler now so Off to the junk yard tomorrow. if I don't find one that I like I'm gonna do the MR2 SW20 LED 3rd tail I found online.
Update so I'm a little behind took me two days to find someone with a truck to bring over my air compressor. So final trim on the 2nd coat tonight and sanding. LOTS of Sanding...
Update so I'm a little behind took me two days to find someone with a truck to bring over my air compressor. So final trim on the 2nd coat tonight and sanding. LOTS of Sanding...
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OK, I'll be the guy... Your car isn't mid-engined.
May I ask what your motivation is for this modification? I see no upsides to this when it comes to functionality, aerodynamics or looks. I get that you want something else, but why not just get a MR2 or Fiero if you want the mid-engined look.
Riz.
BTW: I do think that you should do what you enjoy, so power to you!
May I ask what your motivation is for this modification? I see no upsides to this when it comes to functionality, aerodynamics or looks. I get that you want something else, but why not just get a MR2 or Fiero if you want the mid-engined look.
Riz.
BTW: I do think that you should do what you enjoy, so power to you!
#13
To have a place to hide my full size spare tire and battery. Might be moving my subwoofer out of my spare tire holder in the back too.
Also to be different. Why would anyone build some of the body kits out there. It's to be different from the others. Yes some kits actually are functional but most are not.
This was one of the easier things I could think of also to get back into fiberglassing and hone in on it, so I can build a JGTC kit for my FC.
Thanks for the encouragement to. Atleast your not totally hating on it.
Also to be different. Why would anyone build some of the body kits out there. It's to be different from the others. Yes some kits actually are functional but most are not.
This was one of the easier things I could think of also to get back into fiberglassing and hone in on it, so I can build a JGTC kit for my FC.
Thanks for the encouragement to. Atleast your not totally hating on it.
#14
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I like the glass hatch. It looks good and makes it easy to see behind you, unlike most cars today.
Fabricating a rear "deck lid" cover like many other cars that have hatches have would probably be ten times easier than what you are doing. The new and old fortune supra kit from vielside has a hatch like what you are building... And it doesn't look that bad. If you like the look, then go for it.
Fabricating a rear "deck lid" cover like many other cars that have hatches have would probably be ten times easier than what you are doing. The new and old fortune supra kit from vielside has a hatch like what you are building... And it doesn't look that bad. If you like the look, then go for it.
Last edited by tuscanidream; 01-09-12 at 03:50 PM.
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**** just buy one, would be heaps easier !!
http://www.nengun.com/unknown/rx-7-f...the-frp-208741
[IMG]www.nengun.com/unknown/rx-7-fc3s-tailgate-for-the-frp-208741[/IMG]
http://www.nengun.com/unknown/rx-7-f...the-frp-208741
[IMG]www.nengun.com/unknown/rx-7-fc3s-tailgate-for-the-frp-208741[/IMG]
#19
Sharp Claws
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i like the idea but i don't see you pulling it off with that start. that fc hatch looks pretty assy to me anyways but the elise much more elegant and tied together. fc model pictured looks like someone dropped a box into the middle of the hatch.
main difference? the eyebrow and how the glass is mounted and its shape.
main difference? the eyebrow and how the glass is mounted and its shape.
Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 01-19-12 at 12:12 AM.
#20
**** just buy one, would be heaps easier !!
http://www.nengun.com/unknown/rx-7-f...the-frp-208741
[IMG]www.nengun.com/unknown/rx-7-fc3s-tailgate-for-the-frp-208741[/IMG]
http://www.nengun.com/unknown/rx-7-f...the-frp-208741
[IMG]www.nengun.com/unknown/rx-7-fc3s-tailgate-for-the-frp-208741[/IMG]
#22
Sharp Claws
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so someone moved the engine to the hatch area and messed up the balance of the car? i want pics of this.
if you consider the FC to stock be mid engined... not even close. if you consider it to be mid engined because it is just barely behind the centerline of the front axle, think again once again, many FR vehicles are still this way within reason. in fact almost all FR engined cars have the engine behind the front axle because it is not the drive axle.
example of a mid engine car commonly available for viewing would be a toyota MR2 and pontiac fiero, a rear engine car is a volkswagen/porsche, and this site is chock full of front engine vehicles.
if you consider the FC to stock be mid engined... not even close. if you consider it to be mid engined because it is just barely behind the centerline of the front axle, think again once again, many FR vehicles are still this way within reason. in fact almost all FR engined cars have the engine behind the front axle because it is not the drive axle.
example of a mid engine car commonly available for viewing would be a toyota MR2 and pontiac fiero, a rear engine car is a volkswagen/porsche, and this site is chock full of front engine vehicles.
Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 01-22-12 at 11:47 AM.
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so someone moved the engine to the hatch area and messed up the balance of the car? i want pics of this.
if you consider the FC to stock be mid engined... not even close. if you consider it to be mid engined because it is just barely behind the centerline of the front axle, think again once again, many FR vehicles are still this way within reason. in fact almost all FR engined cars have the engine behind the front axle because it is not the drive axle.
example of a mid engine car commonly available for viewing would be a toyota MR2 and pontiac fiero, a rear engine car is a volkswagen/porsche, and this site is chock full of front engine vehicles.
if you consider the FC to stock be mid engined... not even close. if you consider it to be mid engined because it is just barely behind the centerline of the front axle, think again once again, many FR vehicles are still this way within reason. in fact almost all FR engined cars have the engine behind the front axle because it is not the drive axle.
example of a mid engine car commonly available for viewing would be a toyota MR2 and pontiac fiero, a rear engine car is a volkswagen/porsche, and this site is chock full of front engine vehicles.
#25
Still working on it, I've been busy the last few weeks due to my new job at Boeing.... Update this weekend... Hope to have it attacted to the frame. Pics to come. Thanks for following this post....
Also will be working on a set of Advans SA3 i just picked up getting the centers sent off to the powder coater this next week too.
Also will be working on a set of Advans SA3 i just picked up getting the centers sent off to the powder coater this next week too.