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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 04:01 AM
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Another white FC - S4 TII build

Bonjour,

Time to start my build thread :

So I had the opportunity to buy this FC a few mount ago.

All the body work was done, no rust, everything was done how it should be done.

Pics from the previous owner :


Engine bay

Fresh underside

4 wheel lug conversion

Turbo II gold edition


S5 rear light

Rolling sheel

Fenders

hoooood


The car is 90% complete, I need :
- Rear axle
- Front Windshield
- Sunroof sheet metal
- Modling trim fender
- Carpet
- Seats
- Probably a lot of other things

I want a street/track car, so, looking good and working great.

My garage :


I don't have a lot of space here...

Next step :
  • Check wiring harness
  • Install it
  • Install dashboard

Bonne journée !
Adrian









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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 07:35 AM
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Wow... what a great start, this is going to turn out amazing! Best of luck, and I'm going to follow this one.
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 10:49 AM
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Thanks Kyle !

Update on wiring harness.
It was a pain to know where everything need to be.

If you want some spaghetti let me know :





After some work on it :



It looks a lot better. Engine harness suffer from heat, plastic are crisp... But I don't see a lot of cutting or modification into, a good point !





Body harness is now on the car, all my plastic tab are broken, I will try to find new one if possible.

The wiring harness behind the dashboard was a pain, because I didn't know where It should go, but after some time on Youtube and manual it's in.

If I remember well I still need to mount battery harness and passenger side harness.

Next Step :
  • Open the engine
  • Mount all the bit that goes on the dashboard (switch, speedo, ect ect)
  • Make a list of futur mods
Merci !
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 10:58 AM
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I spot some Rx8 seats in the background. Are those the plan for this car?
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GtiKyle
I spot some Rx8 seats in the background. Are those the plan for this car?
Yep. I bought them cheap and I really like how they feel, better than the leather one.
But I have a Bride Zeta IV in my Miata and I will probably mount it in driver side in the rx7.
Bride driver seat
Rx8 passenger side unless.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 03:49 AM
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Engine is now open !
It comes with the car and nether I or previous owner know his mileage. I take the decision to open it because it was out of the car and since I didn't know his condition, it was better to open it.





54mm flywheel nut was a pain, my little 400nM electric impact gun wasn't enough. So i call a friend and with a breaker bar et him holding the engine with a crowbar 54mm unbolt !

And now :


hello there

A lot of garbarge in all water port, corrosion and residue of water.. and.. I also found a nut :



Le bilan :
I didn't take time to do metrology but :
  • Plates had some groove you can feel where the rotor oil seal pass
  • 1 housing is toasted, chrome flaking on the side
  • Some water seal show some damaged





Chrome flaking but not as bad as the other housing




Now take a look at this :


aie aie aie je n'aime pas ça

Toasted... What can caused this ? The little corner piece of the apex seal ? But why ? Mileage, corner seal misalignment, design of the apex ?

Some pic of the plates now :




Hey you !



Now it's time to clean everything.

Opinions ?

Bonne journée
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Old Dec 13, 2023 | 05:49 AM
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Really inspect those irons water passage groves on the lower half. Check for pitting, atkins sells reinforcement parts if they are too thin or pitted. Heat cycles are killers and it would be terrible to put it together to only lose a seal from a fracture.
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 01:12 PM
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My plan :
First step 300whp, reliable :
  • New FD housing
  • FFE trigger kit
  • Block everything I don't need (EGR, ect...)
  • Turbosource stud kit
  • Oil pan baffle
  • Dowel + External oil mod
  • Upgraded oil pressure regulator
  • Thermal pellet
  • Competition Shaft oil jet
  • Upgraded fuel pump
  • Upgraded injector
  • Upgraded alternator
  • BNR Turbo
Any suggestion ? I thinks it's the thing to do for reliability and performance

Merci
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Catz
My plan :
First step 300whp, reliable :
  • New FD housing
  • FFE trigger kit
  • Block everything I don't need (EGR, ect...)
  • Turbosource stud kit
  • Oil pan baffle
  • Dowel + External oil mod
  • Upgraded oil pressure regulator
  • Thermal pellet
  • Competition Shaft oil jet
  • Upgraded fuel pump
  • Upgraded injector
  • Upgraded alternator
  • BNR Turbo
Any suggestion ? I thinks it's the thing to do for reliability and performance

Merci
for 300hp? you can skip a bunch of stuff.
do new housings, in fact the more new engine parts the better
block the stuff you're not using
the oil pan baffle is good, the Super Now! one is better, its 10mm thick (you need shorter engine mounts to go with it). a bigger bottom plate is how the factory stiffened up these engines
you do want the FD oil pressure regulator, but you don't need anything else.
thermal pellet is up to you, its more of an age thing, so you should block it off, or replace it with a new one.
the competition oil jets work at high rpm, but it will drop oil pressure at low rpm. not sure how you're going to use this thing, but if its a street car you might skip this
you will want the bigger fuel pump, injectors, and the alternator is nice too
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 09:09 AM
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Beautiful start!!

question though? was it originally a TII?

I noticed the 4 lugs and though TII's were 5 lug.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
for 300hp? you can skip a bunch of stuff.
do new housings, in fact the more new engine parts the better
block the stuff you're not using
the oil pan baffle is good, the Super Now! one is better, its 10mm thick (you need shorter engine mounts to go with it). a bigger bottom plate is how the factory stiffened up these engines
you do want the FD oil pressure regulator, but you don't need anything else.
thermal pellet is up to you, its more of an age thing, so you should block it off, or replace it with a new one.
the competition oil jets work at high rpm, but it will drop oil pressure at low rpm. not sure how you're going to use this thing, but if its a street car you might skip this
you will want the bigger fuel pump, injectors, and the alternator is nice too
Thanks for your feedback. Appreciate it
First step 300whp, since i'm rebuilding a complete car I don't want to push hp first. 400whp in futur would be nice
I skipped ECU part, at the moment I don't know what I will buy, need to speak to my tuner/myself

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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ATC529R
Beautiful start!!

question though? was it originally a TII?

I noticed the 4 lugs and though TII's were 5 lug.
If I remember well, in Europe we only had 5 lug.
Previous owner convert it to 4 lug, why ? Because he put some nice SSR XR4 !
I really like the vibe of small 4 lug wheel, XR4 - Equip01/03
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Catz
Thanks for your feedback. Appreciate it
First step 300whp, since i'm rebuilding a complete car I don't want to push hp first. 400whp in future would be nice
I skipped ECU part, at the moment I don't know what I will buy, need to speak to my tuner/myself
all Mazda did to go from the T2 ~200hp to 280hp, was to bump the oil pressure, they also improved the bearings and changed the clearances a bit. they also did some oil pan baffling.
they also improved the CAS. its important to note that the FFE kit is more accurate, but the timing still needs to be checked, the kit doesn't fix that problem verify TDC when the engine is apart

Mazda also kept increasing the ECU speeds, but any good aftermarket one will be even faster.

the experience i've had using FC Tweak on the Power FC has been really good, basically it makes sure that the basics are covered, things like the sensors being scaled correctly, and then that the actual AFR hits the target
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 02:55 PM
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welcome to the board.

nice car. really nice work.

i find that oftentimes when a build starts on a rotisserie, good things usually follow. i can't wait!
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
all Mazda did to go from the T2 ~200hp to 280hp, was to bump the oil pressure, they also improved the bearings and changed the clearances a bit. they also did some oil pan baffling.
they also improved the CAS. its important to note that the FFE kit is more accurate, but the timing still needs to be checked, the kit doesn't fix that problem verify TDC when the engine is apart

Mazda also kept increasing the ECU speeds, but any good aftermarket one will be even faster.

the experience i've had using FC Tweak on the Power FC has been really good, basically it makes sure that the basics are covered, things like the sensors being scaled correctly, and then that the actual AFR hits the target
100% true. Timing always need to checked after a fresh rebuild or new engine
In Europe people seems to work with Link, Megasquirt, Maxxecu, Haltech

Originally Posted by diabolical1
welcome to the board.

nice car. really nice work.

i find that oftentimes when a build starts on a rotisserie, good things usually follow. i can't wait!
Thanks diabolical


Just got a quote for 2 FD housing + front, intermediate and rear plate. I will ask Santa
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 08:57 AM
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100% true. Timing always need to checked after a fresh rebuild or new engine
In Europe people seems to work with Link, Megasquirt, Maxxecu, Haltech
all good choices, i forgot the important part. its just to verify that the engine is timed right, and that AFR is actually hitting the target.
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Catz
Bonjour,

Time to start my build thread :

So I had the opportunity to buy this FC a few mount ago.

All the body work was done, no rust, everything was done how it should be done.

Pics from the previous owner :


Engine bay

Fresh underside

4 wheel lug conversion

Turbo II gold edition


S5 rear light

Rolling sheel

Fenders

hoooood


The car is 90% complete, I need :
- Rear axle
- Front Windshield
- Sunroof sheet metal
- Modling trim fender
- Carpet
- Seats
- Probably a lot of other things

I want a street/track car, so, looking good and working great.

My garage :


I don't have a lot of space here...

Next step :
  • Check wiring harness
  • Install it
  • Install dashboard

Bonne journée !
Adrian
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Old Jan 12, 2024 | 02:09 PM
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Bonjour everybody !

Happy new year

I didn’t take to much time to work on the car since last time.

It’s always fun to buy a project car from someone else, because you always find some missing parts supposed to be with the car you bought.

So if you have a complete key set (doors + ignition + hatch) let me know.


And I need a pair of front door handle because i’m missing these parts. Let me know if you have these also.
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 09:53 AM
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Hello there,

Quick update, just ordered a brand new pair of FD3S housing for the FC.


Next, I'm gonna order brand new S5 irons.

Stay tuned
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 01:16 PM
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Look at what I received !



Brand new S5 iron ! Cat checking if everything is okay

shiny; supernow sump baffle. Thanks j9fd3s !

Brand new FD3S housing
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 05:58 AM
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Update build list : Opinion ?

Goal 300 to 350whp on e85 - 95% Track car - 5% Street & show car

Engine :

FD3S housings - Bought
S5 plates - Bought
S4 rotor and hub - Bought
1 solid dowel + 1 drilled dowel - Pineapple Racing
EGR - ACV deleted - Bought
Atkins rotary OEM rebuild kit
Maybe a porting but i don't know
Billet rotary pulley kit - multi rib
FD pressure regulator
Himni master engine nut & bolt kit
Himni motor mount - don't know if they fit with the Supernow engine baffle ?
BNR Turbo


Fuel system :
2 x ID1050 - 2 x ID1700 (hard to find and pricey here in France / Europe) -
Walbro 255 (easy fit, reliable)
Fuel damper removal

ECU :
Still don't know, debating between Link and Maxxecu

Electrical :
Fuel pump rewire
Alternator upgrade -> Which one ? FD3S ? Billet Pro Bosch 120AMP ? Advance RHDjapan ?

Transmission :
Rebuild the shifter
Himni transmission mount

Feedback is welcome
Merci
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 11:19 AM
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Update build list : Opinion ?

Himni motor mount - don't know if they fit with the Supernow engine baffle ?

Feedback is welcome
Merci
the Supernow baffle is 10mm thick and they offer 10mm shorter mounts for it, although they are solid.
i've never had a set of poly mounts in my hand, but it must be possible to make a shorter one

i would run the link ECU if it was my choice, they are excellent, and price is good
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Old May 3, 2024 | 02:08 PM
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Not a good news today.
I'm starting to clean all the part.

I'm going to start looking into another solution. Either by importing a turbo kit from Japan or Turblown... Or maybe find a non-cracked S5 manifold but they are overpricey here
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Old May 13, 2024 | 06:48 AM
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Door handle and mechanism on the left door is done.

What a pain it was I used two door handle to make one.




And now the door


After that I tried to mount all the seals on this door. Everything was going fine until I tried to install the seal on the inner part of the door (the big one that goes all the way around the inner part of the door). After 1h of me trying to know why the hole to mount it doesn’t fit where they used to be, I looked at the Mazda reference. omg. I tried to mount RH seals on LH door. So previous owner put LH seal on RH door, and yes he made holes on the seals to mount it… aaaaah.


thanks PO for theses holes.


Next step is to finish to clean theses bad boys and finish the left door
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 03:16 AM
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Hey there,

Not a lot of updates. I order all engine internal parts (apex, seals, corners, …) from Japan but no update since 2 months.


New kitty ! Say Hi to Guizmo



Like previous year, I went to to Ultrace. Quick pic of the LB RX7


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