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Where do you have your mixture screws set at?
Screw both of them all the way in and them turn them out 1-1.5 turns out. That will be a good starting point. But your float level is very critical so do what I told you and check for any fuel dripping in the Venturi while the engine is off. You can also check by turning just the fuel pump on with engine off and look down the carb. There should be no fuel dripping down anywhere inside the carb. If there is then like I said before your fuel pressure is too high or your float level is too high or both.
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thats normal, there needs to be fuel in there for the thing to run...
if you're serious about tuning the carb, start with float level, then the idle, then work your way up the RPM until you're @wot.
it will take a while to get it right, but you should be able to get the carb to provide a good mixture at all rpms.
if you're running an MSD i'd recommend tuning with the autolight plugs, they are much cheaper, and work better with the MSD, so you can go through a couple sets and its like $9, instead of $90. they don't work with the stock ignition though, the gap is wrong
if you're serious about tuning the carb, start with float level, then the idle, then work your way up the RPM until you're @wot.
it will take a while to get it right, but you should be able to get the carb to provide a good mixture at all rpms.
if you're running an MSD i'd recommend tuning with the autolight plugs, they are much cheaper, and work better with the MSD, so you can go through a couple sets and its like $9, instead of $90. they don't work with the stock ignition though, the gap is wrong
The float level should be correct, I set it to within .03mm. Spec is 12-12.5mm from top of float to the main cover.
I set it to 12.28 according to my digital caliper. The float must be resting on the needle valve but not compressing the spring (which would block the flow of fuel).
Now setting the pilot screw, according to Mikuni it should be set to 1 1/8 turns from seated position. The "seated position" is the pilot screw screwed all the way in, right? Then you back it off 1 1/8 turns. Done that. According to them, if you need to turn the pilot screw more than 1/8 turn from that it's jetted wrong.
I will fiddle with the pilot screw just to see if it helps as well as check the timing and see if anything comes of that.
From what I have seen of the inside of the carb there is no fuel coming out unless I work the throttle and then it's coming out the pump nozzle. Unless the car is running in the upper RPM, then it's coming out the venturi.
I am no expert but I am pretty damn sure I have this carb setup properly other than maybe jetting but even then, it should at least idle with the recommended jets.
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No MSD, stock ignition.
The float level should be correct, I set it to within .03mm. Spec is 12-12.5mm from top of float to the main cover.
I set it to 12.28 according to my digital caliper. The float must be resting on the needle valve but not compressing the spring (which would block the flow of fuel).
Now setting the pilot screw, according to Mikuni it should be set to 1 1/8 turns from seated position. The "seated position" is the pilot screw screwed all the way in, right? Then you back it off 1 1/8 turns. Done that. According to them, if you need to turn the pilot screw more than 1/8 turn from that it's jetted wrong.
I will fiddle with the pilot screw just to see if it helps as well as check the timing and see if anything comes of that.
From what I have seen of the inside of the carb there is no fuel coming out unless I work the throttle and then it's coming out the pump nozzle. Unless the car is running in the upper RPM, then it's coming out the venturi.
I am no expert but I am pretty damn sure I have this carb setup properly other than maybe jetting but even then, it should at least idle with the recommended jets.
The float level should be correct, I set it to within .03mm. Spec is 12-12.5mm from top of float to the main cover.
I set it to 12.28 according to my digital caliper. The float must be resting on the needle valve but not compressing the spring (which would block the flow of fuel).
Now setting the pilot screw, according to Mikuni it should be set to 1 1/8 turns from seated position. The "seated position" is the pilot screw screwed all the way in, right? Then you back it off 1 1/8 turns. Done that. According to them, if you need to turn the pilot screw more than 1/8 turn from that it's jetted wrong.
I will fiddle with the pilot screw just to see if it helps as well as check the timing and see if anything comes of that.
From what I have seen of the inside of the carb there is no fuel coming out unless I work the throttle and then it's coming out the pump nozzle. Unless the car is running in the upper RPM, then it's coming out the venturi.
I am no expert but I am pretty damn sure I have this carb setup properly other than maybe jetting but even then, it should at least idle with the recommended jets.
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If all that checks out and your timing checks out then you need to adjust the mixture screws. Try turning them in a half turn and so forth and see if it gets better. You may have to turn them out some more. I don't know about Mikuni but on Webers when you turn the mixture screws in(clockwise) it leans out the mixture and vise versa. Rotaries like to idle on the rich side. So try that next
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Progress!!
I unscrewed the pilot screws both 2 full turns (made it richer) and voila, this biatch idles. So my pilot screws are either buggered or f the mikuni manual of 1 1/8 turns. Either that or I need some seriously rich pilot jets.
Going to check it though by re-gasketing the exhaust and tuning it according to the AFR. I don't have my tach hooked up so I can't tell the RPM it's idling at but at least it is.
I unscrewed the pilot screws both 2 full turns (made it richer) and voila, this biatch idles. So my pilot screws are either buggered or f the mikuni manual of 1 1/8 turns. Either that or I need some seriously rich pilot jets.
Going to check it though by re-gasketing the exhaust and tuning it according to the AFR. I don't have my tach hooked up so I can't tell the RPM it's idling at but at least it is.
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Progress!!
I unscrewed the pilot screws both 2 full turns (made it richer) and voila, this biatch idles. So my pilot screws are either buggered or f the mikuni manual of 1 1/8 turns. Either that or I need some seriously rich pilot jets.
Going to check it though by re-gasketing the exhaust and tuning it according to the AFR. I don't have my tach hooked up so I can't tell the RPM it's idling at but at least it is.
Mikuni 12a working!!! - YouTube
I unscrewed the pilot screws both 2 full turns (made it richer) and voila, this biatch idles. So my pilot screws are either buggered or f the mikuni manual of 1 1/8 turns. Either that or I need some seriously rich pilot jets.
Going to check it though by re-gasketing the exhaust and tuning it according to the AFR. I don't have my tach hooked up so I can't tell the RPM it's idling at but at least it is.
Mikuni 12a working!!! - YouTube
Now you want to keep turning them out or in until you retain the highest idle possible or highest vacuum reading. And then adjust your idle screw to whatever idle you like.
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As I have it set right now AFR is reading 14.3-14.6 at idle.
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Looking for some more info on the ACV port on the motor and maybe needing to fill it.
The intake manifold for the Mikuni comes with two o-rings to seal the coolant passages on the motor. The intake manifold doesn't have any channels for the coolant, it just blocks them off. Same for the ACV port. It just blocks it off.
Do I still need to fill the ACV port since there is no way for it to flow through the manifold? The manifold doesn't seem to get hot when running but rather from heatsoak if you turn the engine off when hot and let it sit.
Also had another breakthrough. I went to adjust the stop bolt on the gas pedal and noticed the pedal was hanging up way before hitting the original position of the stop bolt. Thinking WTF I went and played with the throttle shaft and sure enough the nut that holds the throttle cable holder was hitting the intake manifold. It wasn't allowing the butterfly to go full WOT. There are two bolt holes and it was mounted in the closer one so I moved it to the further one and now it lines up the butterflies perfectly. I don't know if this was meant as the original throttle stop but I don't think it was so I am going to fashion something up but in the mean time I have the bolt on the gas pedal and the nut hitting the manifold and it lines up so I'll roll with it.
I took it for a spin afterwards.
This thing is a beast compared to the Nikki now that the accel pump works.
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What AFR number am I looking to hit?
Looking for some more info on the ACV port on the motor and maybe needing to fill it.
The intake manifold for the Mikuni comes with two o-rings to seal the coolant passages on the motor. The intake manifold doesn't have any channels for the coolant, it just blocks them off. Same for the ACV port. It just blocks it off.
Do I still need to fill the ACV port since there is no way for it to flow through the manifold? The manifold doesn't seem to get hot when running but rather from heatsoak if you turn the engine off when hot and let it sit.
Also had another breakthrough. I went to adjust the stop bolt on the gas pedal and noticed the pedal was hanging up way before hitting the original position of the stop bolt. Thinking WTF I went and played with the throttle shaft and sure enough the nut that holds the throttle cable holder was hitting the intake manifold. It wasn't allowing the butterfly to go full WOT. There are two bolt holes and it was mounted in the closer one so I moved it to the further one and now it lines up the butterflies perfectly. I don't know if this was meant as the original throttle stop but I don't think it was so I am going to fashion something up but in the mean time I have the bolt on the gas pedal and the nut hitting the manifold and it lines up so I'll roll with it.
I took it for a spin afterwards.
This thing is a beast compared to the Nikki now that the accel pump works.
Looking for some more info on the ACV port on the motor and maybe needing to fill it.
The intake manifold for the Mikuni comes with two o-rings to seal the coolant passages on the motor. The intake manifold doesn't have any channels for the coolant, it just blocks them off. Same for the ACV port. It just blocks it off.
Do I still need to fill the ACV port since there is no way for it to flow through the manifold? The manifold doesn't seem to get hot when running but rather from heatsoak if you turn the engine off when hot and let it sit.
Also had another breakthrough. I went to adjust the stop bolt on the gas pedal and noticed the pedal was hanging up way before hitting the original position of the stop bolt. Thinking WTF I went and played with the throttle shaft and sure enough the nut that holds the throttle cable holder was hitting the intake manifold. It wasn't allowing the butterfly to go full WOT. There are two bolt holes and it was mounted in the closer one so I moved it to the further one and now it lines up the butterflies perfectly. I don't know if this was meant as the original throttle stop but I don't think it was so I am going to fashion something up but in the mean time I have the bolt on the gas pedal and the nut hitting the manifold and it lines up so I'll roll with it.
I took it for a spin afterwards.
This thing is a beast compared to the Nikki now that the accel pump works.
http://www.mazdatrix.com/b1.htm
This will allow you to remove the intake manifold any time you want and not spill any coolant. Make sure you use an intake gasket that covers the acv port or it will leak exhaust.
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Well my concern is whether or not I need to take the motor apart to fill it with quicksteel without it getting too far in there.
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flow thru the passage is like this pic. in a stock car air pump air goes thru there to the exhaust ports. when you block it off, there is no flow, so the exhaust gases just become an insulator.
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Ok, so there is a lot of room in there to jam the quicksilver in before it comes out anywhere that would affect anything.
Since there is no flow though, shouldn't there be VERY little heat transferred? Air is a terrible conductor and it's not flowing through the acv port but rather just sitting there so how much heat could it be putting into the manifold?
Or is the air see-sawing back and forth as one rotor exhausts and the other is not so some flow goes through the ACV port and out the other exhaust port? I theorize this because doesn't the ACV port connect the two exhaust ports?
Since there is no flow though, shouldn't there be VERY little heat transferred? Air is a terrible conductor and it's not flowing through the acv port but rather just sitting there so how much heat could it be putting into the manifold?
Or is the air see-sawing back and forth as one rotor exhausts and the other is not so some flow goes through the ACV port and out the other exhaust port? I theorize this because doesn't the ACV port connect the two exhaust ports?
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it does connect both ports, but then it goes up a long dead end passage.
i'm sure there is some heat there, unblocked, but i don't think its very hot, and its not a big deal in the scheme of things
i'm sure there is some heat there, unblocked, but i don't think its very hot, and its not a big deal in the scheme of things
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That's what I am thinking as well. Can't be transferring that much heat to the manifold if it's just sitting there and at this point it seems like the benefits won't outweigh even the small amount of work it takes.
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Well the manifold I am using stays cool. Yes, cool (not warm at all) to the touch except the VERY bottom of the manifold where it connects to the engine.
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