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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 06:37 PM
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another sweet pic of my engine, from underneath, a problem i noticed when reinstalling my charge harness. so i have no oil level sensor. #addictedperformance yea
I have an oil lever sensor if you want to buy one .

And yeah a little bit oily lol

The beautiful design of the fd oil pan.
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 08:59 PM
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broke a baller, i do want to buy one. PM me
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 09:11 PM
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No filter for that MAP sensor?
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 11:53 PM
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No filter for that MAP sensor?


no filter. i've never used a filter for the map sensor. do you have any documentation that shows how this is a benefit? i am curious.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 03:40 AM
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No documentation, I think it is there in case stuff like oil gets into the sensor and screw up the reading.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 10:59 AM
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I've also heard they help "smooth" out the pressure readings.
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 01:02 PM
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a little update:

got my ludwig harness in.
a little more info about that: i purchased this custom harness for ludwig with plans to upgrade to a haltech ELITE in a couple months when they officially have rotary support. so this is an ELITE harness (very similar to the platinum sport harness, just a few wires different) with breakout harnesses in both the cabin (the accelerator pedal) and the engine bay (for the DBW throttle body). i am also running the OMP, which when combined with the DBW stuff uses up a LOT of inputs and outputs, so the I/O 12 expander box was required.

ludwig is an expert. if you ever have ANY issues with one of his products (especially one of his custom EFI harnesses) he is very available and will help until any issues are resolved. my harness was one of his more complex (requiring it to be upgradable/usable from platinum to elite), utilizing the stock charge harness for the ignition, having breakout harnesses for DBW and future GM LS ignition coils, etc. and he worked with me to make sure everything was perfect. basically, you can't go wrong purchasing one of his custom harnesses.

i am running the GM 3 bar map, triumph IAT sensor, GM CTS, stock ignition coils (and utilizing the stock charge harness for ign power/signal, as stock), haltech oil temp sensor (installed at oil filter pedestal sandwich plate).

so the current status is that it's running well and i've driven it a couple times already today. i still have to hookup my wideband input and do a couple other small things, but i will hopefully be street tuning it this weekend.

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nice heatshrink labels
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got the haltech battery cables hooked up
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more nice heatshrink labels
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 01:45 PM
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decent update:

i got the haltech install all tidy'd up.

i de-pinned the Haltech fuse box so i could pull the harness through the firewall and reinstall the correct way for the firewall grommet to go in and seal:

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got it all installed and clean
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currently troubleshooting some smoke with the engine hot and coming back to idle, also on hot starts. i'm hoping it's the front turbo, which appears to be in bad shape (in/out and top/bottom play), especially compared to the rear turbo, which appears to be perfect:

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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 04:31 PM
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Nice job on the wire labels...lol
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 08:54 PM
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for the fuse box?

i go by the simple recommendation of an old wise man: "keep it simple, dummy."
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 01:39 AM
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nothing like a nice clean harness

Guess your going efr7670 now
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 09:13 AM
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I keep seeing all these harness' with labels... Where can I get these labels for when I redo my harness?
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 04G35S
I keep seeing all these harness' with labels... Where can I get these labels for when I redo my harness?
You order the clear heat shrink and make labels then heat shrink them over the rychem black heat shrink
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 01:26 PM
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I was talking about the engine harness.
Is that a Rywire or custom kit.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
I was talking about the engine harness.
Is that a Rywire or custom kit.
LMS-EFI

That's one of our FD plug-in harnesses. We built it for Jacob so that he could run his Sport ECU until the Elite firmware is released. At that point, he'll be able to easily swap ECUs. We added breakouts for DBW as well.
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 04G35S
I keep seeing all these harness' with labels... Where can I get these labels for when I redo my harness?
i can make you labels.. let me know what you want on them and how many of each
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 07:43 AM
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i can make you labels.. let me know what you want on them and how many of each
Seriously?! That would be awesome. Ill get back to you on that! I just bought a bunch of clear shrink wrap.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 10:55 PM
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i made some more progress this weekend.

most importantly, i purchased a new turbo kit:
borg warner S360 .91 turbo
chinese ebay manifold (rx7store style)
chinese hks knockoff 50mm wastegate
cxracing 3" downpipe that i'll have to adapt to match my new turbo (borg warner uses marmon flanges on these turbos instead of vbands)

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i assisted my friend in painting his 1jz sc300 track car (he sprayed it in his yard. haha):
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made a new oil line for my turbo setup:
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started working on installing my pillowballs, inner LCA bushings, and new cam bolts:
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soda blasted the LCAs:
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separated the stock turbo comp/CHRAs from the turbine housings. the front turbo was leaking pretty badly. i am now mostly sure this was the cause of my smoke.
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 12:51 AM
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What's up with the chinese garbage...
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 04G35S
Seriously?! That would be awesome. Ill get back to you on that! I just bought a bunch of clear shrink wrap.
ya sponsored by my work aha, let me know send me a pm
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Arca_ex
What's up with the chinese garbage...
ah, it was only a matter of time before i got this question.

and arca, i am with you; the metals are cheap and the tolerances are high, but the bottom line is that my allegedly blown front stock turbo threw a wrench into my project. i was planning on using the stock twins for as long as possible, and even doing a few track events with them.

so what happens when the turbos go out?
option 1 is i purchase another set of used/unknown stock twins that are in "good condition," which will require replacing a few gaskets, undoubtedly replacing at least 1/2 of the manifold bolts and studs, replacing crush washers, and several other little nickel and dime things, all to use unknown turbos
option 2 is i piece together another high quality turbo kit like i did with my red FD, maybe with a cheaper turbo this time, to the tune of about $3000, or have most of the work done for me and purchase a nice kit from IR or Turblown, to the tune of ~$2500-3000.
option 3 is to buy a complete chinese POS "turbo kit" and slap it on and cruise around in the car, maybe even tune it for full throttle to see how long the chinese turbo will last. this would cost about 1200$ plus some nickel and dime stuff.
option 4 is an in between; i get a borg warner high quality turbo (S360 .91 divided marman) and a chinese manifold and knockoff wastegate. the turbo is $650 shipped, and the manifold and wastegate were $190 combined. i also got a cxracing chinese "single turbo" downpipe for $170 that i can easily alter to work with the marman flange on the S360.
option 5 is to purchase rebuilt stock twins via BNR and reinstall with several new gaskets/studs/nuts/etc. as mentioned above. this option costs about $1100-1200 if you include the gaskets and nickel/dime stuff.

i already have parts for an oil feed and drain, so those can be deducted from options 2 and 4.

i went with option 4, of which the total cost is about $1200 shipped, which includes the cost of having the downpipe altered to fit the borg warner marman flange.

what i'm trying NOT to do is throw an endless amount of money into this turbo setup. the EFR8374 IWG setup on my red FD (with me piecing it all together and getting a big hookup from my fabrication friend on all the fab work for the downpipe) was $3750. this setup costs $1200. i'll take the risk on the manifold cracking and the wastegate sticking, and maybe replace the parts once, and be out $190. this setup will cost the same as known-good rebuilt stock twins from BNR.

i may have completely false/high expectations of the chinese manifold/wastegate/downpipe, but i am pretty sure they're going to do a pretty damn good job for the money (again, $350 total for those 3 units).

i hate to be "that guy" talking about doing things super cheaply, but when i went the other route it felt like a gross over-spend of money. it was a very responsive and reliable setup, but was it worth triple the cost? that's what i am going to find out.
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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I see the point but would still be weary of such a junk wastegate in such a high heat application. Boost control isn't something I would cheap out on but oh well. Good luck.
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Arca_ex
I see the point but would still be weary of such a junk wastegate in such a high heat application. Boost control isn't something I would cheap out on but oh well. Good luck.

valid point, but i have engine protection on the haltech, so at least i'll know there's an issue when the overboost cut is activated.

of course i would still have to deal with replacing a wastegate and such, but it won't cause the engine to blow, at least.
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 12:06 AM
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I'm interested to see the results of this. I figure someone is buying these things because there are many for sale. I'd lie if I said I wasn't curious.
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 01:20 AM
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I know a lot of people that have gone this route. Some successful, others not. The big thing is to dremel the runners in the manifold as there are often very loose chunks of metal waiting to get sucked in. This goes especially for the wastegate runners. If you have a welder and don't mind the DIY aspect this is a good idea, if not then it could be a headache.
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