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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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jef57 = bad guy?

I'm posting this just to let people know that jef57 might be a bad guy.

He has sold stuff to me, herblenny, and kempo.

We're currently trying to communicate with him and I have not heard from him. Maybe the other guys but not me.

I'm currently in dispute with PayPal and am waiting for his reply.

If I or we don't hear from him soon, we're going to try and get our money back.

Again, this is just a heads up. I want to post this here just in case someone else hear's from him. If you do, please let us know when he contacted you.

I can't say right now if jef57 is a good guy or bad guy, just that he's not communicating after sending money and I'm concerned since it's all the way from France.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Can you list the specific details? If I am not mistaken this was for the steering wheel correct? I know phil paid him then someone else chimed in and said they had paid him also. Was there more too it such as waiting on different parts or did all three of you pay him for the same part? Regardless I hope you all get it worked out in your favor with the part/s or your money back.

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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I paid for the Apex'i PowerFC.

I believe Kempo and Herblenny paid for the wheel and received the same message from jef57.

I hope I get my PFC or my money back.

Making me begin to dislike France all because of this guy...
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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When God created France he realized he created the most beautiful country, as this was not fair to the rest of the world he put the French in it to balance

No seriously we're not any different than anywhere else.

I hope that you guys will get your stuffs or money back.

I think he's a member of the French forum, I'll try to contact him there for you and let you guys know...
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Oliv, pretty funny joke

Please let us know what you find out. This guy has vanished on us.......
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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I can't say right now if jef57 is a good guy or bad guy, just that he's not communicating after sending money and I'm concerned since it's all the way from France.[/QUOTE]


Always a bad sign... Goodluck guys, hope you can recover your money..
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:10 AM
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Thanks Oliv. I totally understand that every nation has scumbags who like to steal from people.

Just bothers me that he's all the way overseas.

If he doesn't send me the Apex'i PFC or refunds my money, they'll be crap to pay for this. Guaranteed!
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Sent him a PM tonight, I prefer to go privately first. If no response in a couple of days I will go public on the forum so that people back here know about. he's been quite active selling parts there too.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chillin_rx7_guy
I paid for the Apex'i PowerFC.

I believe Kempo and Herblenny paid for the wheel and received the same message from jef57.

I hope I get my PFC or my money back.

Making me begin to dislike France all because of this guy...
Chillin,
you might send phil and kempo a pm linking this thread, they might have had some contact with him or if nothing else they can jump on the list of potentially screwed.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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No reply up to now...
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Oliv
No reply up to now...
I'd go ahead and at least mention on your forum that there could possibly be a problem with this guy and reference this thread. Might help keep any of you frenchies from getting burned and if you say it in a nice way like "Potentially" could be a bad seller than I don't see where the seller could get upset about that should he turn out ok since it is him that has dropped contact.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fikren
I'd go ahead and at least mention on your forum that there could possibly be a problem with this guy and reference this thread. Might help keep any of you frenchies from getting burned and if you say it in a nice way like "Potentially" could be a bad seller than I don't see where the seller could get upset about that should he turn out ok since it is him that has dropped contact.
Just did: http://rx7.free.fr//forum/viewtopic.php?p=25139#25139

The least I can do.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Merci Oliv!
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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You're welcome.

And by the way a couple of people there testified that they had really no issue with their purchase. Fast shipment and good quality.

Jef57 also came and explained that the shipment lead time can be really long between France and the US, which I agree with, it usually takes like 3 weeks or more if you use "normal" shipment price.

I would not worry too much now if I were you, I think you will receive your stuffs, be patient.

I think I didn't make myself a friend there not minding my own business.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Oliv, please tell jef57 to come on this forum and give an update to these guys. What's doing right now (nothing) is unacceptable......
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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I did and he told that he had replied to everyone by PM.
I also advised him to come and communicate on this very thread.

Again, nothing but good feedback over there.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Oliv
I did and he told that he had replied to everyone by PM.
I also advised him to come and communicate on this very thread.

Again, nothing but good feedback over there.
Thanks Oliv for being in the middle. I really do appreciate it.

However, jef57 hasn't contacted me at all via PM or email.

He has yet to respond to the PayPal dispute. For me, all he had to do was give me a shipping tracking number to verify that he shipped it out. That's all but he didn't do that.

I even said in the dispute to give me a receipt of the shipment he paid for. Nothing.

Again, thanks for helping as much as you can. I'm tempted to join the rx7 france site just to say something about this guy but I'm going to wait a little longer.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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I just saw this..

Oliv, Thanks for posting on rx7france.com

I tried to sign up but never received a confirmation.

Anyhow, I'm hoping he comes thru and get the parts. As of now we are waiting on his response and paypal is about to reverse the payment (I say in 7 days or so). But if the part shows up, I will cancel the dispute.

Thanks again for your help!
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Here is the translated to English what Jef57 wrote:

It is already several times that I have stated, by mail regarding their private mailing, there is no follow-up Internet packages for international shipments (monsieurs those unwilling to pay the price "strong" on rates. ..)I think everyone here on the forum can you confirm receipt of their order if you want to continue your role of inquisitor ...
So, I guess we'll see..
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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I won my judgment. Big whoopty doo. No funds in his account. He's OFFICIALLY a BAD GUY!

If my item doesn't come through within the next 2 weeks, I'll definitely ruin his reputation anywhere I see it.

That I can at least do within my own powers.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Thanks Oliv for your help on this matter and for preventing other to be robbed by this Jef57. I have not heard from Jef57 since Jan 21. In his last PM he said that he had sent my wheel that day and that he would sell another one to the other buyer (phil). He sent the exact same PM to Phil. He never sent a tracking # as requested or replied to any other PM, e mail or pay pal dispute. He has not logged to this forum since that same date. Here is copy of his PMs to me:



Re: spirit r wheel

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Hi,

I've send yours today, delivery time is usually 15- 20 working days.
I've sell an other one to an other buyer.
Sincerely




Quote:
Originally Posted by kempo
Hi, I read on the forum that someone else paid for the wheel. Can you confirm who are you sending this to? I have a confirmation e mail on this wheel. Do you have two?
Thnaks,
Hugo


Quote:
Originally Posted by jef57
Hi,

delivery time is usually 15-20 working days to US

Sincerely


Quote:
Originally Posted by kempo
How long will that aprox. take to the US?


Quote:
Originally Posted by jef57
seems to be same plug than US version
international standard shipping


Quote:
Originally Posted by kempo
Will the air bag plug fit in the US version? What kind of shipping will you use?


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Hi,

yes it will fit us fd

ok for 500 USD shipped (included 4% Paypal fee, so I will receive 480 USD)

my paypal address is :vivianne201@gmail.com

pic exemple of Spirit r steering wheel in a us fd :







more pics of actual spirit r steering wheel for sale:
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chillin_rx7_guy
I won my judgment. Big whoopty doo. No funds in his account. He's OFFICIALLY a BAD GUY!

If my item doesn't come through within the next 2 weeks, I'll definitely ruin his reputation anywhere I see it.

That I can at least do within my own powers.
Geez! I got the same thing from Paypal!

I'm getting pissed!! Its been over 15 days since it was shipped out.. I'm going to give another week and after that, I'm going to raise hell!!

I'm also going to call my CC to reverse the payment and see what they will do.
******* Paypal!!

I'm telling you, there are MORE and MORE ******* scammers on this forum!
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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Your cc company can probley take care of you, I've reversed charges twice on bad ebay listings where there were no funds in the persons account after paypal found in my favor.

Of course that probley depends on what bank your card is through, but mine I called them up explained the situation and next day had a credit on the card.

-Jonathan
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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Thats because the FORUM block the GOOD sellers that have a GOOD rep from selling...It is only going to get worse..


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Geez! I got the same thing from Paypal!

I'm getting pissed!! Its been over 15 days since it was shipped out.. I'm going to give another week and after that, I'm going to raise hell!!

I'm also going to call my CC to reverse the payment and see what they will do.
******* Paypal!!

I'm telling you, there are MORE and MORE ******* scammers on this forum!
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fikren
Your cc company can probley take care of you, I've reversed charges twice on bad ebay listings where there were no funds in the persons account after paypal found in my favor.

Of course that probley depends on what bank your card is through, but mine I called them up explained the situation and next day had a credit on the card.

-Jonathan
I specifically used my CitiCard.. They better reverse it or they will loose me as their customer

I called my CC but they are having some computer issues.. I'm calling tomorrow morning.

I'm still hoping it will come in in next couple of weeks though.. Its weird how this guy completely stop getting on this forum..
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