jerd_hambone

Also, this is a public forum, so anything you post is community business.

My engine is now at RR awaiting rebuild. The transaction went fine.

IndyRxtc

hmmmmm

jerd_hambone

You can do what you like, but I do think this is a bit ridiculous.

RRTEC

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This thread is epic.

I feel bad for the guy that bought a truck to trade to you.. I have been screwed a bunch of times by people who flake out on deals, and at a time I was very interested in picking up both the cars (and a buddy and I were considering coming up to get them) but both of us got a bad taste in our mouths' after PMing BunnyBunny...

At this point IndyRx has definetley made his point, we all agree that this deal was sour... It's a shame...

rx7roller02

its funny how you complain that I am in this thread even though I was not a part of the deal, and at the same time you try to bring MY posting up in this thread by saying its your business because this is a public forum. Youre wrong on both counts.

1--this isnt a public forum. It is a forum thats regulated by rules, and not everyone is entitled to be here. That is the difference.

2--my dealings in other threads are there for everyone to see--but they are NOT RELEVANT TO A DISCUSSION ON YOUR BUSINESS ETHICS. If you wish to cry like a baby about what I do, then do the right thing and go start a thread about it somewhere else, where it isnt trying to distract from the already-established topic of this thread. You see, everything I posted is 100% relevant to the topic that this thread was started on--and nothing you whine and cry about that has to do with me is relevant to that. So, if it makes you feel better to cry like a girl because I believe in committing my time, resources, and sometimes money to helping people on this forum who get shafted by idiots like you, then by all means, go start your own thread and have at it.

Oh, and when it gets flooded with people who have gotten their money back because of my efforts, or who have been helped because I get involved, then you might just get the point. You see, the only people who complain about what I do here are the ones who end up the focus of my efforts--in other words, the ones who couldnt just handle their business honestly like a man in the first place. Seems to me that if your actions put you in that crowd, you dont have any business complaining because I speak up about your dishonesty. If you dont want people to complain that you've lied, then here's a novel approach--STOP LYING. Your claims in this thread about the cars you owned, what happened to them, when it happened, the status of this title or that, or claiming that indy tried to change your deal when you are the one who flaked, well, those only served to make you look even worse.

Its also funny that you repeatedly keep posting things like "its no longer in discussion on my end" but you havent shut up yet. If it is done, then at least be smart enough to stop talking and repeating "i am done". At least get that much right!!

It would be the only thing youve gotten right in this whole mess...

Indy, you do have the right to take this loser to small claims court for the amount of money you spent on the truck, olus any other costs you incurred as a result of him being a dishonest flake. And with the communication you have in writing, such as PM's and emails, etc etc, it is 100% possible to prove that he is the one who said those things you guys agreed to. If you would like to put that together, I will help you set everything up on the legal end. Just shoot me a PM if I can be of any help....no cost. Once you prove that you only bought the truck because he agreed to the deal, then its an open-and-shut case. The funniest part of this whole mess is that there is precisely one person on here that doesnt see what actually happened--and thats bunny....

jerd_hambone

I am not complaining about what you do, I am simply tired of repeated saying that its pointless to argue constantly when this thread was meant to be about me being a flake

rx7roller02

and everything I have posted about your comments here is relevant to you being a flake because it shows you repeatedly being dishonest. So again, what the hell was your point in complaining?? What, because someone sees you being full of **** and calls you on it, you think that complaining about where I post in the forum will change anything??

You could have just been a man and admitted to indy that you screwed up, and that you cost him money for nothing because of it. THAT is what he asked for. You cant even do that. And then, you could have just apologized for the several inconsistencies in your stories that keep changing...but again, you couldnt handle that. You would rather try to distract from the point of the thread by talking about what I do in 90% of these threads than handle your **** like a man.

Youre right, it IS pointless to argue about you being a flake, so when are you going to stop making ****-poor excuses and being dishonest, and just admit what you did? This situation isnt going to simply disappear because you tried to talk **** about where I post and what I do here. You have now told us several times that you were done with this thread, and all you have done ever since then is to continue the same old crap. You could end it all with just a little honesty about the way you handled everything. The choice is yours.

rx7roller02

That isnt complaining about me? Hell, you even thought that it was worth repeating, so you said it twice!

Like I said, the more you talk out your ***, the more it just makes you look stupid.

And to think, if only you would just be honest and cut the crap, this would have ended already....

But hey, what do I know, right? I'll just sit back, over here, and await the next response from you--the guy that told us two days ago that he was finished with this thread....

jerd_hambone

You and Indy kept it going after I didn't post for two days or so.

What is there to be honest about? I gave the car to my cousin, as I've said.

rx7roller02

what is there to be honest about? Gee, I dunno, this whole deal, perhaps?

You havent told the truth in this whole mess. What is there to be honest about?! youre seriously asking like you dont know how you screwed up???

Well, if nothing else, everyone can now see that you arent the person to do any kind of business with. Come back and see us once you've matured enough to handle things like keeping your word.

IndyRxtc

its been almost 2 weeks, and no pics of the wrecked car?

kansei

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*shaking head*

I have been down this road that Indy has gone down before. I got fed up with this thread after the middle of page 2 and just skimmed the rest of the posts from there. Everytime I have had a deal go south because of the other party changing their mind at the last minute, it had one striking similarity to this situation:

bunnybunny
Date of Birth:
July 24, 1987 Age:
20

Not bashing, but one note: experience matters (just in general).



Neal.

jerd_hambone

will do buddy

IndyRxtc

almost 3 weeks

drama

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02-06-08, 09:09 AM
drama
DRAMA




Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: RICHMOND,KY
Posts: 1,684
Re: FC's

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If you want to come look at them, you can, I have no problem at all with that

I'm usually free after about 6 or 7 every day, or I'm off weds-fri

call at one of those times and we can set it up

If in fact you still have the car`s by the `6th I`ll call you if nothing has changed on your end.

I sold one of them and the other I'm in the process of getting a title and the engine is being dropped off at Rotary Resurrection next week

Thats fine.

rx7roller02

well well well.....and the plot thickens....

Hey drama, can you do me a favor? What was the original date on the PM he sent you when he said this:

Just a bit curious about something....thanks

drama

iTrader: (37)

Feb 2 is the first time we talked. About the cars.

rx7roller02

ok, now we have a problem....

This was sent from bunny to indy, note the date and time:

So was this one:

OK, we already saw this info. It looks suspicious enough on its own. Now, lets add in the info that drama just provided--on this same day, 2 February, bunny tells drama that he can come look at the cars.

AFTER he agreed to a deal with someone else already.

AFTER he knew that indy was going to spend money on the truck

And, at the same time that he was claiming that one was wrecked, he was telling this other prospective buyer that he could come look at both cars!

Then, he tells indy that he gave the car to his cousin. But he tells drama that he "sold it".

hmmm........

Sprockett

I understand why this situation would create a lot of frustration, but honestly...unless there was some agreement in writing, signed by both parties, I just don't see what is wrong here. Yes, it's shitty...and it's not nice, and it puts the "buyer" in a bad situation, but I don't see why it's a crime for someone to change their mind.

rx7roller02

While there were no signatures, there didnt have to be--there was an agreement and it was in writing. It was agreed upon that indy would buy this specific truck from its present owner, and then they would swap, the truck for the two FC's that bunny had. Bunny himself said "its a trade, when can we do this?"

How you can look at that and not see what it means is beyond me. The guy agreed to the deal. Then, on 2/2, he asked of indy would take money instead of one of the cars. Two hours later, when he saw indy's response--that he wanted the original agreement to stand--all of a sudden one of the cars was wrecked.

Now, thats fishy enough on its own, and its a downright crappy way to do someone. And in small claims court, indy would win the cost of that truck back. But thats not where this one ends....at the same time he was telling indy "I gave one car to my cousin because it was wrecked", he was telling drama "sure, you can come look at both of the cars, they are still available". A few days later, bunny states to drama that he "sold the second car"....

now, why dont you look at that and tell me exactly what doesnt match up? The fact of it was that bunny was far from honest. at the same time he learns that indy wont take cash for one car, he claims that one was wrecked.....but then, while that is all happening, he's telling someone else to come look at both cars because they are still both there?

jerd_hambone

my original PM to Drama was on January the 20th, at which time the deal hadn't been set with Indy. He didn't reply to the PM I sent, or call. He replied to the PM 12 or 13 days later?

It took him that long to reply, then I didn't reply to him until after the deal fell through with Indy.

And ALSO!

Indy did not buy the truck.

IndyRxtc

Indy did too buy the truck, I took the truck as partial payment on what he owed me,and on Feb 2nd, after we had a deal you told Drama you sold one car to someone else.

Truck is still sitting here, and I have no use for it. This means I have a truck that I do not want, and he doesn't have to pay me that amount back now.

And yes we had a deal, and as I see now, you sold one car already to another, and then "claimed" it was wrecked, and can't produce pics now.

Imagine that.

It simple, this is a warning to anyone that does business with you.

You are not a boy of your word.

jerd_hambone

The gods honest truth I traded the car to my cousin for 600 bucks and a guitar. You technically did not buy the truck. Receiving the truck on partial payment is different than buying the truck.

You never did say how much he owed you.

Yes let this be a warning.

OK. Now have a good day.

Also just so you know, the sale pending was placed for your trade before drama even replied to the PM.

So he has zero evidence saying that I was trying to sell him the cars while we had a deal in the talks.

IndyRxtc

Funny how you have all the time in the world to reply to this, yet can't get pics of the wrecked car, or could have replied to my emails.

Yah, I knocked $1500 off what he owed me, thats cash I will never see now...... and its just the same as cash, cause he is actually one that pays.

Now the other reason I am pissed, I had people lined up for parts off the cars I was not going to use, and had another "kid" that wanted one real bad, I had him sold on an engine rebuild, and some other used parts that I had.

So your immature dealings cost me close to $3000.

Keep trying to prove you did no wrong, and I'll go file the papers in small claims, and we'll see who you'll be paying off for the next 3 years.

rx7roller02

God's honest truth, huh?? You cant even come up with new stories, youre reduced to reusing the same lines over and over again!! Wanna see?? Read on--

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=guitar

Supposedly thats how you bought the one with no title....so let me guess, it was an Ibanez Noodle that was thrashed all around with duct tape on it?? Cuz thats the BS you told in that thread two months back.....

how the hell does that matter?? The end result is the exact same--that he now has a truck that he didnt ever want for himself, that he's stuck with because of your dishonesty....and also, he is still out that money! The guy owed him cash, not a truck, and he could have spent that cash on anything he wanted.....but he chose to spend it on that truck to help you out, and you **** on that.

Here's a valuable piece of advice for you--if the best defense you can come up with in any situation requires the use of the word "technically" in that context, you dont have a valid defense.

Which is, to be honest, none of your friggin business. Just like it wouldnt matter how much he would have paid for the truck if he bought it from a stranger---the reason why that has no relevance is because you made a deal. You made an agreement. You gave your word. And that should have meant something more to you than it clearly did.

Well, I specifically asked him for the date as it appeared on your PM, and he told me it was 2/2. And, as far as credibility goes, yours is absolutely shot on here. Given the choice between believing your story that you sent that on the 20th and his that you sent it on 2/2, I would choose to believe him until I see differently. If you like, we can verify it with him and then we can ask a mod to drop in and verify it for the forum, whadaya say?

No he wont, indy--you see, he's got a little cash, and a guitar laying around that he can give ya to settle things up....