MuRCieLaGo

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This thread scares me. I always had good deals with Japan2LA (Even if he never gave a feedback on the iTrader system...).

Japan2LA

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Shipping will be >$250.00

Here you go again, performing for your internet audience.. The "Rusty Lemon" comments need to stop. There is no documented proof where the small amount of water you say you found came from. You have said there is a coolant leak into the front rotor housing, yet the pics do not show any coolant, only a small amount of water... and the source of this water has yet to be determined.. As I said earier the engine passed a compression test here before it was shipped.. My intent is to do a proper pressure test on that engine when it is returned to me.. The jury is still out on the 1st engine being a "rusty lemon" so stop with this already..

"I need to see clear photos of all sides, plus top and bottom. I'd like to see clear closeups of the turbo intake and exhaust blades. I also want to see clear closeups of all six rotor faces and apex seals through the exhaust ports and a shot of each rotor housing surface, similar to what I posted."

I will pull the turbo and exhaust manifold off for inspection on the replacement motor. I will document what I find. I will take pictures. I will take pictures of the turbo. I will take pictures of the longblock. I will email the pics prior to sending the motor out.

The replacement will have a manual flywheel

I will not be able to video the compression test.. I dont own a video camera, and I am not going to go out and buy one just for this..

I have already addressed the downpipe

Send the oil cooler with lines back with the engine. I will send you $50.00 back ( what I charged for oil cooler) I dont have another one to send, you source one from someone else on your own..

It will take me 1 to 2 days to look the 1st engine over once it has been returned to me.

There is no trickery here.. as long as it is all bolted together and is 100% as it was when shipped out, there will be no issue. No missing parts, no missing hardware..its simple... Based on these threads you have started, I doubt you will have trouble doing this.

Video, take pics do whatever you want. Do you need to send any of this to me? The answer is NO.

markusparkus

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More than $250? Or less than $250? I was expecting less than $250 since $250 was the original shipping price for the entire swap package.

I don't see where you've done that. Please restate....


As for the rusty/cooling issue. Seriously, where on earth could that much liquid have come from to generate that level of rust, if not the cooling system? As far as I know, there are only two ways for water to get into the compression chamber, the first would be through moisture in the air and the second would be from a leak in the cooling system. Since it's pretty much impossible for atmospheric moisture to do that level of rust, much less on only one of the chambers, that pretty much leaves a cooling system leak. I would love to hear another plausible option.

Don't blackberry's have a video camera in them? Don't all digital cameras these days have a video mode? I'm assuming you still aren't shooting pics on film, right? That would just be primitive.

Japan2LA

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>=less than
<=Greather than

Shipping will be less than $250.00, my mistake on the sign

downpipe will be sent with the 2nd engine

There are ways for water to get in....and I will just leave it at that..


Until a true pressure test is done, there is no proof of a coolant seal failure.

I have a digital camera..

I do not have a video camera.

Yes, I am primitive.

markusparkus

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You aren't suggesting that if the engine passes a pressure test, that you are going to change the agreement, are you?

I'm sure you can find a friend with a video camera (I too was living in the stone age until a couple of years ago when my brother took pity on me and bought me one). I want the compression test video. I want to KNOW that the additional money spent is spent well, and that when the engine arrives, that this transaction is complete.

Japan2LA

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Jesus Christ...

I said I am going to exchange the engine...

For the LAST TIME...

I dont have a video camera, nor do I have someone who I can borrow one from..

I am done going back and forth with you..

PM me when you have the engine ready to ship and when you are ready to deliver it to the terminal. I will then email over the shipping paperwork that you will need in order to drop it off at the terminal..

Nothing else needs to be talked about until then..

markusparkus

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Lol. Ok.

I forgot that you have the mazda digital compression tester so instead of a video, a photo of the numbers for each rotor will be just fine.

I'll start the packing process.

When you have the photos of the replacement and compression test, post them up here, or make an album and post the link or whatever works.

Looks like we are coming to a close on this issue. I'm glad.

Japan2LA

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^ This I can do...

texFCturboII

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Brian has always been and will always be a great guy to deal with. While it was unfortunate for the motor to show up in such a condition, the buyer needs to be realistic. You are dealing with 20+ year old USED engines, imported from Japan. The other side of the world.

The fact that Japan2LA is bending over backwards to photo document all this for you is a testament to his integrity. I have never, ever heard of any engine importer willing to take such steps.

It is well known amongst car enthusiasts that buying an imported, used motor is a roll of the dice. Especially a Wankel rotary. Most importers don't even offer warranties for them.

This is an obvious smear-campaign upon the good name of a pillar in the Rotary Community. If your complaint is that Brian was un-professional in his business dealings, then you should not complain un-professionally.

rx7roller02

First off, give this nonsense a rest. I dont want to hear anything about "20 year old used parts from the other side of the world"....none of that matters. The moment that a seller represents the condition of ANY parts to be a certain quality, regardless of the age, or where they come from, then that seller is 100% liable for their claims. When japan2la certifies to a customer that an engine has "above 100 psi on both rotors", there is no excuse at all for a dead motor arriving at the buyer's door. I completely understand japan2la being very busy, but when a seller tells a customer that they are going to do something, I expect them to do it. Period. No ifs, no ands and no buts. Its that simple.

Second, we're starting to see the same issue again with regards to shipping promises. Japan2la, I have no doubt that we as a community are fortunate to have you here offering these parts to our members. But this is really beginning to cause a problem here. WHEN YOU TELL A CUSTOMER THAT YOURE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO DO IT, AND YOU NEED TO DO IT WHEN YOU SAID YOU WOULD. You received payment on 5/25, and told him it would ship "in a few days". "in a few days" is NOT just over a month later! Again, I know youre busy, but when you tell a customer something, that builds an expectation that causes problems later when you dont follow through. You first told him "in a few days"....and you didnt follow through. You then told him on 6/15 that "I will have all your shipping info for you tomorrow"....and again you didnt follow through. You then told him a THIRD time, on 6/23, that you would have it shipped out no later than Friday, which was 6/25. From what he has posted, it did not actually ship until some days later than that. This is not the first time that I have spoken to you about this issue. And while I appreciate your usual habit of delivering good quality parts, I have an issue with something else here. One of the reasons why you kept this guy waiting was so that you could "find the motor with the best compression" for him. At one point, you told him that the reason for the latest delay was that you were in the process of testing the motors. But you sent him a motor with no compression on one rotor. If you had tested that motor before shipping it, wouldnt you have noticed the problem? That motor would not have gotten rusted out, filled with water, and lose all compression in the three days it took to get from your place to his, on a pallet. The only conclusion I can come to is that it was sent to him in that condition. Wouldnt a compression test have solved that before it found its way onto a pallet in the first place?

I am at a loss.....I dont know why you cannot seem to understand the importance of following through on what you promise, when you promise. While you have amassed a certain reputation here as a go-to guy, you are still required to abide by the rules of the forum and handle your business in an appropriate manner. It does not matter to this issue that you provide parts that others do not. You are still just as much responsible for these problems as any other seller would be. If, at some point, someone convinced you that its ok to conduct business like this on here because you get all these parts for our members, let me assure you here and now that this is NOT the case.

A final note to FCTurboII--this is NOT a "smear campaign". It is a buyer who dropped three grand to a seller, waited more than a month to get his order that was SUPPOSED to have shipped "in a few days", and when it finally arrived, it was not at all in the condition that it was promised to be in. How's about we try using a little honesty here, please? I have no doubt that Brian was not trying to send a bad motor to someone. However, he advertised one thing, and sent another. If for ANY reason you feel that this issue is the buyer's fault, think again.

Brian, I have every confidence in your desire and ability to provide quality parts to our members. But we need to figure something out about these issues. It will only help your business run more smoothly, and it will also help our members to get what they need in a more efficient manner. I am open to any ideas you may have and available if I can help you to get past this. Feel free to contact me if there is anything I can do.

Jon

texFCturboII

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No doubt Brian messed up. That's not an issue that I am contesting, the buyer comes off very childish to me, hence my statements about being realistic.

What makes this a smear campaign and really irks me is that instead of approaching Japan2LA about the issue first, the buyer creates a thread bad-mouthing the guy without giving Brian an opportunity to make good.

From what I understand, as soon as the buyer did contact Brian, he was offered a refund / replacement.

I agree that when somebody says something, they should do it and Brian was wrong to not communicate better with the buyer about the issues in selecting and shipping the engine. I also agree that when a vendor makes a statement as to the quality of their product that they are liable to back up those statements. Brian seems to have slipped there, but he backed up his claim by offering a refund or replacement.

The buyer should have handled this in a more professional manner, and Brian definitely should have been more professional himself. You don't just assume that somebody has maliciously screwed you over and start bad mouthing them to everyone without confronting the person first.

rx7roller02

Well, lets see here....your first post said NOTHING about Brian dropping the ball. What you did was talk about:

1--how he "always has been and always will be" a great guy to deal with....
2--how "20 year old imported wankel rotary engines are a gamble, thats why no one warranties them
3--this thread is an "obvious smear campaign" against "the good name of a pillar of this community".

Please, stop me when I get to the part where you were telling us about how Brian needs to handle his responsibilities. In other words, in one post he's a good name and pillar of the community. In your next, its obvious that he messed up. Why are you talking about integrity when you cant even stick to your own story?

Apparently, you have decided against practicing some integrity of your own. If you had actually read the thread he started, you would have seen him doing nothing more than asking questions. It was OTHER PEOPLE that told him the engine was toast. AT NO TIME did he "bad-mouth" Japan2la in that thread. So, please, if you dont care enough to actually read what has taken place, then dont post in these threads. There is enough to sort through as it is without people posting biased, half-educated claims. Brian is an asset to the forum, and he does not deserve to be unfairly trashed. But thats the thing--this buyer asked questions, and didnt put down japan2la at all.

And again, this is what you get when you dont read the whole story. The refund that was offered included the buyer having to pay for return shipping--not just a few bucks--and also to forfeit a $150 restocking fee....for what? He was sold a bad engine, filled with water and rust, and because it arrived that way at his doorstep, he was supposed to pay shipping charges and a restocking fee? Youre kidding, right?

See above. The refund was offered with conditions that would have cost this buyer a substantial amount, which he should not have had to pay since none of this was his doing.

At this point, I dont even know what thread you think youre reading. The buyer bought an engine and related parts, dropped THREE THOUSAND BUCKS. He was kept waiting for OVER A MONTH past when he was originally told to expect the engine to ship. And when it FINALLY showed up, it was wet and rusty inside. So he starts a thread which SPECIFICALLY said "I dont know if this means the motor's trash, please give me some opinions". he sought help from this community. He did so WITHOUT criticizing japan2la. And when several people, one of them a member of our moderating staff who also happens to have enough turbo swap experience that he helped to write a FAQ thread on the matter, told this buyer to suspect the engine, he took their advice. Once he was comfortable with what he thought was wrong, he then contacted the seller and informed him of the problem. He COULD have gone off half-cocked, insulted Brian up one side and down the other, cursed him out, and demanded his cash back on the spot...but instead, he kept his head, kept calm, asked for opinions from people that knew better than he does, and then presented his resulting thoughts to the seller. And even then, he didnt bad-mouth japan2la in any fashion...what he DID say was this:

if you think that he trashed Brian, you need some new reading glasses.

Tell you what--all this nonsense distracts from what this thread is here for. I'm going to ask nicely that you refrain from posting in this thread any more. Should you decide to continue this "obvious smear campaign" against a buyer who spent a chunk of cash in good faith, I'm going to ban you.....nicely....

texFCturboII

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Well I missed that thread, I was going on what I read here; I will humbly accept being owned.

markusparkus

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Hey Japan2LA,
Do you have pics of the replacement engine yet?

Keith13b

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Great...I was planing on doing a TII swap next year. This thread scares the hell outta me and brings out all my fears.

Hopefully the buyer and the seller can work out a deal. I'm not commenting at all, but it sucks for both parties; but really sucks for the buyer. I am curious as to how this pans out.

markusparkus

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got pics?

Rotaryrockstar

You're telling me it's been two weeks and you still haven't heard from him??

markusparkus

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No, he PM'd me saying that he was busy last week and would have them this week.

markusparkus

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Just to make sure that I haven't missed anything before I pack this on a pallet, here are some pics. Lemme know if you see anything out of whack.















And let me know if you want the bug.... I throw him (her? I'm not going to find out) in for free.

RotaryRocket88

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Japan2LA, time is ticking away, but still seems to be no progress in resolving this situation. Where is the replacement engine/pictures?

RedBaronII

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Hope this gets solve pronto.

Japan2LA

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FYI: I have been waiting since 7/12/2010 for Mark to tell me that the engine is ready to be shipped back.

I have not been the reason for ANY delay in getting him a replacement engine. By now, the 1st engine could have already been returned to me and inspected.. and the replacement engine in Mark's possession.

Japan2LA

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On 7/27/2010 Mark posted the above..

I sent him a PM saying that I would not have time to do this until this week 7/26/ thru 7/30. I have followed thru with that request. I took and emailed pics of this engine today which is during the time period I said I would do so..

Japan2LA

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MARK....

I want this RESOLVED NOW!


I have been waiting since 7/12/2010 for you to say the 1st engine is ready to be shipped back to me.

I am going to PAY the shipping cost and book the return shipping tomorrow morning.


Before 12pm pacific standard time, you will have an email with an attached document..

This will be the bill of lading required for the engine to be shipped back to me...


I can do nothing more to get this finalized until the 1st engine is back in my possession.

Japan2LA

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This sent to me after he has gotten the pics of the replacement engine:

"Ummm.... these pics don't really tell me anything as they are so blurry. The one that I can see sorta clearly looks just as rusty as the original engine. Where are the other pics: full frontal, rear both sides and top and bottom? Plus closeups of the turbo intake and exhaust blades plus the apex seals and rotor faces on each face of both rotors?"



I have 1 digital camera.. Is the pic quality great? The answer is no.. Regardless, its what I am working with.

I could pressure wash this motor, but I am staying away from water for a reason.. It is too easy for water to get in, and then we are back to square one.. You want it cleaner then it is right now, then You pressure was it on your own..

I have sent pics: front, left and right. I will gladly take a rear pic and a pic from below..

My camera does not do close-ups


The bill of lading will be in your email box tomorrow...

Please drop the 1st engine off at the terminal with the paperwork ASAP...

Until that 1st engine gets back to me, I can do no more...