12:31 Worst peopl ever... Teddyrx2 = super bad guy
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audio!!
This is the message he left me. Recieved at 7:03pm on 8/20/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHDx0_cvjI
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Audio Message from 12:31 West watch out
12:31 - Alex = Teddyrx2 - San Diego, CA
Took a part off my car. Did not put it back on. Did not let me know he kept it. When I find out 2 weeks later he will not mail it I must drive 200 miles to pick it up. Then when I do he said he threw it in a pile of garbage that came out of his house when he cleaned it out. this is what he had to say.
This is the message he left me. Recieved at 7:03pm on 8/20/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHDx0_cvjI
Bad guy Thread look here.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=681396
Just a heads up for those that don't cruise the bad guy theads.
Took a part off my car. Did not put it back on. Did not let me know he kept it. When I find out 2 weeks later he will not mail it I must drive 200 miles to pick it up. Then when I do he said he threw it in a pile of garbage that came out of his house when he cleaned it out. this is what he had to say.
This is the message he left me. Recieved at 7:03pm on 8/20/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHDx0_cvjI
Bad guy Thread look here.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=681396
Just a heads up for those that don't cruise the bad guy theads.
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That's some bullshit. Threads like these need to be made stickies or something. Customer service goes a long way, especially when there is a problem. On the bright side, I doubt that anyone reading this thread will give these clowns the time of day now that they've seen what kind of "business" they run, so you have quite possibly saved a lot of people time and money. Thanks for that!
Still no reply from the shop owners..?
Still no reply from the shop owners..?
Last edited by Rx-7Doctor; 08-26-07 at 07:40 PM.
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This is the message he left me. Recieved at 7:03pm on 8/20/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHDx0_cvjI
Sorry I can't have the audio play here. If someone knows how let me know and I can send the file.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHDx0_cvjI
Sorry I can't have the audio play here. If someone knows how let me know and I can send the file.
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hahaha. wow. I can vouch for teddy, and chris they are both nice guys, and do awsome work. just **** happens. and some times people **** up. they did work on my car, i paid cash up front too, big deal. im sure if you would have suggestetd like pay like 60% on pick up and they other 40% on finished arival it woulda been cool. but some times money is tight, and you need money to buy the stuff, let alone pay for gas and food. and so the **** what if they live with their mother, doesnt give you the right to rag on her. i dont care who you are, you should never rag on any ones mom. you can hate all you want but in the end what are you acomplishing? every shop has haters. mebe they wont get bizz nass because of this thread, mebe they will.
but what ever floats your boat and makes you feel like a bigger man i guess.
but what ever floats your boat and makes you feel like a bigger man i guess.
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hahaha. wow. I can vouch for teddy, and chris they are both nice guys, and do awsome work. just **** happens. and some times people **** up. they did work on my car, i paid cash up front too, big deal. im sure if you would have suggestetd like pay like 60% on pick up and they other 40% on finished arival it woulda been cool. but some times money is tight, and you need money to buy the stuff, let alone pay for gas and food. and so the **** what if they live with their mother, doesnt give you the right to rag on her. i dont care who you are, you should never rag on any ones mom. you can hate all you want but in the end what are you acomplishing? every shop has haters. mebe they wont get bizz nass because of this thread, mebe they will.
but what ever floats your boat and makes you feel like a bigger man i guess.
but what ever floats your boat and makes you feel like a bigger man i guess.
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well, it may not, im not say that teddy dealt with the situation the best he could have. but common **** happens. i cant speak for the guy who got "screwed" over, but i can speak for my self, and i have always been treated fairly and recieved good service by them.
and they dont they dont have all the time in the world to work on cars. they both have jobs and go to school. on top of trying to get their shop going.
and they dont they dont have all the time in the world to work on cars. they both have jobs and go to school. on top of trying to get their shop going.
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Yes he is. Your "Teddy" friend jerked him around and is withholding a part that is not his. Clearly illegal by the way. Then "Teddy" comes on here and acts like a junior high kid and calls everybody names. Get a clue dipshit.
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well, it may not, im not say that teddy dealt with the situation the best he could have. but common **** happens. i cant speak for the guy who got "screwed" over, but i can speak for my self, and i have always been treated fairly and recieved good service by them.
and they dont they dont have all the time in the world to work on cars. they both have jobs and go to school. on top of trying to get their shop going.
and they dont they dont have all the time in the world to work on cars. they both have jobs and go to school. on top of trying to get their shop going.
Not everybody gets along with everybody. However in these kinds of situations a business owner needs to look at the big picture, bite his tongue, and fix the problem. Not blow it off and insult his customer.
From what i could tell the quality of his work was decent. He seemed like he was starting to do well for himself. But look at where he is at now over what appears to be a couple hundred doller dispute.
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OK - so you have other jobs that make you money and go to school on top of all that - nothign wrong with that. But if you're going to book people in and alot time, then stick to it. I run a shop myself and there will be delays with some stuff, and some people leave open ended deadlines to work with - but if someone is dead set on X amount of days X amount of down time - YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN, THATS WHY THEY"RE PAYING YOU.
And if you can't make it happen for whatever reason (and 3 days into 6 weeks is unheard of - thats like a 6000% increase in downtime!) the LAST thing you do start givign the customer attitude and excuses - because there AREN'T any excuses. If there was real legitimate reasons for it then fine, but he didn't even get the work done after all that time!
Don't over promote. The key is - Under-promise and over-deliver.
The answering machine message souds like a pre-maddona 16y/o boy whining. Not a business MAN.
Edit: bottom line I'm getting at is the customer shouldn't have to suffer because the "shop" has more priorities. Thats not the way it works - the shop is there to serve the customer when the customer wants - not the other way around. Taking the job on and then saying your too busy is BS. Especially if the person is insistent on turn around.
For example, as a body shop I do collision repairs, insurance work as well as the fun stuff. If I ahvea customer who wants his '62 Nova painted, he's going to know how my schedule works and that I can't control when people get in accidents. If he's not OK with that and wants it in X number of days/weeks the price is adjsuted so I can allow myself the time (or overtime) necessary to make it happen in the time frame. I don't go 8 times over the deadline and then bitch at the customer that I've got bigger fish to fry.
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New Message.... includes lawyer threat.
This Message is from Chris. 1st off it's hard to understand. Not sure what he said but I did catch the jist of it. So 1st of all;
1. I called you and you said it was in a box (box WTF) and you would look when you got home. Ok fine
2. Then I get the call few hours later from your (posted up) and 2 PM messages from him. Both saying don't call don't message stop calling... well everyone heard it.
3. Then you call today. 4 calls. And say why don't I talk to you? Why didn't I call you. Umm... I did and your brother called me back. Why? Who knows.
So are you serious? You must have been the one who told your brother I called about the pan. I only call you and not him. What is wrong with these people?
Lawyer threat? How about I sue you. All I wanted was my part back after all the crap you put me through. And was even going to drive there to pick it up. But no.
And why keep calling and being upset. You want it to be over? SEND MY PART. Done. OVER.
I guess you want to sue me for something? I should start my list as well then to prepare for the counter lawsuit. And start making report to all authorities. Police, BBB, IRS, CCA ect...
Working out of the house, no permits.
Operating heavy machinery in a residential area.
Lost down time.
No business license.
Compensation for the time taken out to drive to the edge of SD
Messages left both on computer and VM. Rude, inappropriate language.
Stolen parts. Not willing to return.
damaged LSD bolt. (stripped, thanks for that Teddy)
IC damage and replacement costs.
Pipes I had to pay for and are the wrong size.
Cut hood support on the car.
No honoring the original deal and keeping more then half of my money.
Pain and suffering and distress.
Court and lawyer fee's
Falsely advertising. (Already printed all the pages out) Posting people's car on the forum as previous work done and collecting CASH. IRS know? I bet everything you don't file.
You think this is bad? I have much much more that has been left unsaid. Send me back my part and we will be done. Now I want YOU guys, 12:31 people to stop calling me and messaging me. You are blocked.
Stop talking, nothing else left to say unless you want me to keep posting and make things worse.
SEND ME MY UNDER TRAY AND BE DONE.
NEW VM: Volume up... someone tell me what he said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EVSmDG3moo
Why call your own brother fat?
1. I called you and you said it was in a box (box WTF) and you would look when you got home. Ok fine
2. Then I get the call few hours later from your (posted up) and 2 PM messages from him. Both saying don't call don't message stop calling... well everyone heard it.
3. Then you call today. 4 calls. And say why don't I talk to you? Why didn't I call you. Umm... I did and your brother called me back. Why? Who knows.
So are you serious? You must have been the one who told your brother I called about the pan. I only call you and not him. What is wrong with these people?
Lawyer threat? How about I sue you. All I wanted was my part back after all the crap you put me through. And was even going to drive there to pick it up. But no.
And why keep calling and being upset. You want it to be over? SEND MY PART. Done. OVER.
I guess you want to sue me for something? I should start my list as well then to prepare for the counter lawsuit. And start making report to all authorities. Police, BBB, IRS, CCA ect...
Working out of the house, no permits.
Operating heavy machinery in a residential area.
Lost down time.
No business license.
Compensation for the time taken out to drive to the edge of SD
Messages left both on computer and VM. Rude, inappropriate language.
Stolen parts. Not willing to return.
damaged LSD bolt. (stripped, thanks for that Teddy)
IC damage and replacement costs.
Pipes I had to pay for and are the wrong size.
Cut hood support on the car.
No honoring the original deal and keeping more then half of my money.
Pain and suffering and distress.
Court and lawyer fee's
Falsely advertising. (Already printed all the pages out) Posting people's car on the forum as previous work done and collecting CASH. IRS know? I bet everything you don't file.
You think this is bad? I have much much more that has been left unsaid. Send me back my part and we will be done. Now I want YOU guys, 12:31 people to stop calling me and messaging me. You are blocked.
Stop talking, nothing else left to say unless you want me to keep posting and make things worse.
SEND ME MY UNDER TRAY AND BE DONE.
NEW VM: Volume up... someone tell me what he said...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EVSmDG3moo
Why call your own brother fat?
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New message. Update on the bad guy thread. Please read... Thanks.
BG:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=1#post7257888
Message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EVSmDG3moo:
One last night, one this morning. So strang. Call, don't call...WTH
BG:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=1#post7257888
Message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EVSmDG3moo:
One last night, one this morning. So strang. Call, don't call...WTH
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New message. Update on the bad guy thread. Please read... Thanks.
BG:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=1#post7257888
Message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EVSmDG3moo:
One last night, one this morning. So strang. Call, don't call...WTH
BG:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=1#post7257888
Message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EVSmDG3moo:
One last night, one this morning. So strang. Call, don't call...WTH
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He doesn't have a leg to stand on, legally. I'm suprised he hasn't come here and defended himself...probably because there is no defense in this case. They f'd up...bad...and are unwilling to resolve the problem.
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I got yet another message. Seems like 12:31 is keeping tabs on this thread.
Ok Chris, if it's your brother being a Jerk and not you. Send me my part. And since you guys live together and he's your brother, you should tell him to stop calling and sending message. My feud is not with him, it's with 12:31 Motorsports which you are a part of. So, no you won't get off that easy.
I never brought up a law suit. You did. So stop calling about that. I never threatened you with anything. For the record I never said anything about your mom either. Only stated that you guys work out of your mom's garage which is a true statement. I would not dare say anything about someone's mother even after all this. There are just certain lines you shouldn't cross. Teddy crossed this line a long time. That's not why I am here, send my part.
All this crazy talk but no talk about my part being sent. Log on, post on here when you will send it. Post up a tracking number. Blame your bro if you want, it's not my deal, I just want what is mine.
Ok Chris, if it's your brother being a Jerk and not you. Send me my part. And since you guys live together and he's your brother, you should tell him to stop calling and sending message. My feud is not with him, it's with 12:31 Motorsports which you are a part of. So, no you won't get off that easy.
I never brought up a law suit. You did. So stop calling about that. I never threatened you with anything. For the record I never said anything about your mom either. Only stated that you guys work out of your mom's garage which is a true statement. I would not dare say anything about someone's mother even after all this. There are just certain lines you shouldn't cross. Teddy crossed this line a long time. That's not why I am here, send my part.
All this crazy talk but no talk about my part being sent. Log on, post on here when you will send it. Post up a tracking number. Blame your bro if you want, it's not my deal, I just want what is mine.
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hahaha. wow. I can vouch for teddy, and chris they are both nice guys, and do awsome work. just **** happens. and some times people **** up. they did work on my car, i paid cash up front too, big deal. im sure if you would have suggestetd like pay like 60% on pick up and they other 40% on finished arival it woulda been cool. but some times money is tight, and you need money to buy the stuff, let alone pay for gas and food. and so the **** what if they live with their mother, doesnt give you the right to rag on her. i dont care who you are, you should never rag on any ones mom. you can hate all you want but in the end what are you acomplishing? every shop has haters. mebe they wont get bizz nass because of this thread, mebe they will.
but what ever floats your boat and makes you feel like a bigger man i guess.
but what ever floats your boat and makes you feel like a bigger man i guess.
https://www.rx7club.com/questions-about-members-102/nairdalavodnas-where-you-678808/
Again I never ragged on anyones mom. Get your facts straight. Clearly from this post and the other you have made you're Teddy's pal. His good buddy. Call him for me and tell him to send me my part. And it can be over since you're so concerned and he is such a good guy.