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Old 01-06-10, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 680RWHP12A
please do

more lies again Thats on you

and there is no warranty on any hi performance or aftermarket parts of any kind .... ever!!!!
Thats what you need to proof on court ....


[QUOTE=680RWHP12A;9719491]please do

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i dot see my name or phone # anywhere

more bullshit to add to the pile .... happy new year
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when your as backed up as i am people have to wait and im sorry but it will be worth the wait guys if you want the best i guarantee
Mate... we stop taking in work when at critical mass. Part of "being the best" would be knowing when to refuse work.




On another note, guys please stick to the matter(s) at hand - i dont see how "home loans" fit into working out your differences.

Seems the two of your are not willing to move from your points of views - whats wrong with small claims court? Judge Judy can settle this in 5mins or less! :-)

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Originally Posted by Rx-7Doctor
Robert has been reinstated as a Vendor here and this thread is being opened so that he may tell his side of the story.

Robert and Tenaz and only the moderation staff are the only ones that are allowed to post in this thread.

If Anyone other than the above mentioned post in this thread you will receive a 2 week ban.
Just making sure that you know this.
Doc has posted this before. If you are not directly involved or part of the moderation staff, please stay out! It doesn't help anything and just fans the fire.

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Originally Posted by 680RWHP12A
i dot see my name or phone # anywhere

more bullshit to add to the pile .... happy new year

Why you don't call the number and give the report number...
So you will find out who made the report and to whom against...?
no more b.......

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Why you don't call the number and give the report number...
So you will find out who made the report and to whom against...?
no more b.......

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i will go to the police department today and make a report too.
you have made threats to me and that will not be tolerated. i had nothing to do with your car getting impounded. just like performance application not legal for street use with no warranty of any kind means exactly what it reads... get a clue man!!!

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Originally Posted by 680RWHP12A
i will go to the police department today and make a report too.
you have made threats to me and that will not be tolerated. i had nothing to do with your car getting impounded. im sorry to hear your loosing your house too. i guess the bank wasnt too flexible with your ignorance. interest only loan means just that interest only. just like performance application not legal for street use with no warranty of any kind means exactly what it reads... get a clue man!!!
had nothing to do with your car getting impounded. just like performance application not legal for street use with no warranty of any kind means exactly what it reads... get a clue man!!![/

?????????


What threats...?
what I'm doing is putting my experience that I had with you here ... No threats

Thats why we be ended up be in court to see who is right and who is wrong...

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yah, someone else did post them dumb *** , a happy customer, like many others do... they want to share their outstanding results with others .....
rxroller is out to get me so his opinion is bias, he himself has never bought anything from rotaryshackl so he has no personal experience to speak of.

according to what rx7 doctor stated earlier he should be banned. lets see what happens
First off, you dont have any business cursing someone out and insulting them here. You already know this, since you have been warned repeatedly in the past for the way you treat others.

Second, I am not out to get you. I am out to get rid of liars who jack people around and then try to claim it is good business. It is not my fault or doing that you happen to fall into that category. I came to you through another forum member, asking for YOUR SIDE---that is how much I "have it out for you". I only developed the attitude I have against you because I caught you lying all over the place in your account of this transaction. And like I said, I am not here to tolerate liars. You have challenged me at every turn ever since--you told me to show where you lied...and I showed plenty of lies. You challenged me to produce the email and called BS.....and so I posted it. And you strangely had not one more word to say about it. It's time for you to grow the hell up and stop trying to play like youre the helpless victim that the evil rx7roller, max power and tenaz are all out to get. YOU made this mess. No one else did. And the sooner you admit that the better off you'll be.

So now that everyone here has the REAL truth of my involvement, let's continue....

Third, show me where RX7Doctor said that I was to be banned! Now youre just messing with the moderating staff, and that stuff just aint tolerated round these parts. Aside from that, Doc has said no such thing, and let me assure you, I am not in any danger of going anywhere. You, however, are a different story at this point in time.
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first off i'd like to say i've had nothing but good help from rob, now i would like to add a few points here, tenaz 1. when you have a turboed car you produce more heat than when you have a n/a car so when robert said it would be smart to uprgrade your raidator you should have took that step but instead you kepted your stock one and you fried your motor, 2. if you had such bad luck with robert then why did you go back to him that makes no since to me, 3. you keep sayin he has your parts, he's clearly said you can come get them from the shop, but you wont are you scared hes gonna whip your *** or what frankly if i was in robs shoes i would be pissed myself, just go pick you parts up man robs not a ups delivery man so go pick them up puss, hes a busy guy that is working on customers cars that have already paid, oh and another thing you keep threating to put up these pics of his porting job...well lets see them pics already i want to see how"bad it is"

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Originally Posted by jd89
first off i'd like to say i've had nothing but good help from rob, now i would like to add a few points here, tenaz 1. when you have a turboed car you produce more heat than when you have a n/a car so when robert said it would be smart to uprgrade your raidator you should have took that step but instead you kepted your stock one and you fried your motor, 2. if you had such bad luck with robert then why did you go back to him that makes no since to me, 3. you keep sayin he has your parts, he's clearly said you can come get them from the shop, but you wont are you scared hes gonna whip your *** or what frankly if i was in robs shoes i would be pissed myself, just go pick you parts up man robs not a ups delivery man so go pick them up puss, hes a busy guy that is working on customers cars that have already paid, oh and another thing you keep threating to put up these pics of his porting job...well lets see them pics already i want to see how"bad it is"

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Originally Posted by Rx-7Doctor
Robert has been reinstated as a Vendor here and this thread is being opened so that he may tell his side of the story.

Robert and Tenaz and only the moderation staff are the only ones that are allowed to post in this thread.

If Anyone other than the above mentioned post in this thread you will receive a 2 week ban. Just making sure that you know this.
This has been said at least twice in this thread. And yet you not only chose to ignore the moderating staff, but you then chose to insult a forum member as well? So, since you cannot follow the instruction of moderators or the other forum rules, you can enjoy your vacation from this forum.

Have a nice day!
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ohhhhhhhhh brother...really?
I just read this entire post and saw at least several other guys hit Robert with harsh critics...they dont even know him....noone was banned!!!!!!!
why this guy gave good advice and had something good to say about Rob got banned?\
Makes me wonder if your not really bias....and I am just saying this to clear the air not to side..which the rules state..

NO POST THAT SIDES WITH EITHER PARTY....

If the MODS are not doing a fair job on htis then we need a new MOD or they should take it somewhere else...right
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first off i'd like to say i've had nothing but good help from rob, now i would like to add a few points here, tenaz 1. when you have a turboed car you produce more heat than when you have a n/a car so when robert said it would be smart to uprgrade your raidator you should have took that step but instead you kepted your stock one and you fried your motor, 2. if you had such bad luck with robert then why did you go back to him that makes no since to me, 3. you keep sayin he has your parts, he's clearly said you can come get them from the shop, but you wont are you scared hes gonna whip your *** or what frankly if i was in robs shoes i would be pissed myself, just go pick you parts up man robs not a ups delivery man so go pick them up puss, hes a busy guy that is working on customers cars that have already paid, oh and another thing you keep threating to put up these pics of his porting job...well lets see them pics already i want to see how"bad it is"

Josh the kid from kansas



i did not call anybody a puss or say Oh your scared hes going to whip your *** ... maybe if you did read his whole post maybe then you will see why he got banned , i probably didnt get banned because i acctually had something to add , and yes he is lying if you did read through most of the posts he made , he also trys to make make himself look good by posting videos of " the cars i massaged " btw if you are soo concerned about the rules then he should be banned and already is for being bias towards one party
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You guys can't read either, I guess??

The reason that the other's didn't get banned (yet) was because I (and others) cut them some slack since it was awhile since Doc posted that and maybe you didn't see it. I posted it agian on this page. roller also posted it again on this page and banned someone for not following directions.

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I personaly like the guys who talk about banning people who have been on this forum years before they ever became a mod sorry my 2cents.I know I might get banned for the comment
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i had nothing to do with your car getting impounded. just like performance application not legal for street use with no warranty of any kind means exactly what it reads... get a clue man...


how do you know my car got impounded..?
By the way it is not longer impunded its in my house.... Since you mentioned the impound of my car on this forum and because you delivered the car and left in the street without the ability to move I guess I add those impound charges to my complaint Thanks a lot Rob ... I was not thinking about that.Thanks again.

My house is not the topic on this threat.
Get your mechanic license,get your Licenses for the city and state,get your credit card machine instead of using your neighboors...So you can accept Credit Cards...
or your want to keep for ever your garage as The Flistones Rotary Shack..?


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Originally Posted by TENAZ
i had nothing to do with your car getting impounded. just like performance application not legal for street use with no warranty of any kind means exactly what it reads... get a clue man...


how do you know my car got impounded..?
By the way it is not longer impunded its in my house.... Since you mentioned the impound of my car on this forum and because you delivered the car and left in the street without the ability to move I guess I add those impound charges to my complaint Thanks a lot Rob ... I was not thinking about that.Thanks again.


Get your mechanic license,get your Licenses for the city and state,get your credit card machine instead of using your neighboors...So you can accept Credit Cards...
or your want to keep for ever your garage as The Flistones Rotary Shack..?


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read the thread!!! the BAR investigator told me your car got impounded. i said that already... your wife signed for the car releasing my liability , not to mention it was there sitting for weeks without moving. thats illegal in california. but you dont care, you blame someone else and expect them to pick up the bill like you always do.

the BAR was at the shop and you will have your copy of the report, bad news is so will i, and it will help me in court.. than you again!!

p.s. read this slowly. i dont accept credit cards and dont plan on it . paypal works fine for me
when are you comming to pick up your parts ivan?

this is not looking good for you ivan. if you do take me to court i will counter sue for the money you owe, you can count on it! instead of spending money on a lawyer you should make your house payment

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I personaly like the guys who talk about banning people who have been on this forum years before they ever became a mod sorry my 2cents.I know I might get banned for the comment
what is your malfunction? It makes no damn difference how long someone's been a moderator. That has NO impact whatsoever on the decision to ban someone. Whether or not that person can follow a moderator's instructions, however, DOES have something to do with it.

This isnt your fight. No less than three times, a member of the moderating staff has stated that no one is to post on this thread unless they are either a moderator or one of the involved parties. FOLLOWING THE FORUM RULES is what we're talking about when it comes to banning people, chief. I first became associated with this forum around the same time as you did, and youre obviously one of the old hands that relates some sort of seniority to time spent as a member or post count. Neither of those things gives someone the right to break the rules here or to ignore the instructions of the moderating staff. You have been here far too long to not know what the terms of service say.....this place is not a democracy. Moderators, NO MATTER HOW LONG ONE HAS BEEN A MODERATOR, have the right to direct that others leave a thread alone in the interest of getting the issue resolved. Several people got banned because they could not follow those rules, and apparently you think youre special because you've been here longer than they have? Or because you built a sweet looking FC and took lots of pics of it? With all respect to you, you could have been a member here a hundred years, at the end of the day you are required to follow the rules here like everyone else regardless.

And since you refused to do so, you dont leave me any choice but to give you the same as with anyone else.

As for anyone else that thinks that the moderators arent being fair on this, since it was restated, EVERYONE that has continued to ignore the mods has been dealt the same result. We didnt stop to look and see which side the person supported or criticized--pnoyrx7 is a perfect example of this, since he was speaking against Rotary Shack and got the same ban as everyone else. Before the next person whines and cries about how unfair it is, FOLLOW THE RULES OR DEAL WITH THE RESULT. As always, if you dont agree, feel free to contact me via PM, as well as any of the other moderators, about the issue. There isnt a damn thing unfair about requesting that all outsiders leave the thread alone--the rotary shack threads and issues have a rather large problem of getting clogged with all kinds of third parties trying to speak for someone else, and THAT is why the mods have dug into this one so much. At the end of the day, if you arent certain about whether or not to post here, read the terms of service again that you agreed to when you signed up here as a member. The bottom line is that you are not party to all of the facts in this issue. I have asked for, and received, Robert's own personal account of this transaction, from start to finish. In Robert's own words to me, he has repeatedly been caught lying--THAT IS NO ONE'S FAULT BUT HIS OWN. I dont personally care if you love him and his shop--the guy flat-out lied several times about what has taken place here. And he still claims that tenaz owes him all sorts of money--even though he has sent me a copy of every invoice that he charged tenaz, and has shown that tenaz has paid all but about $100 of the total. This is documented fact, and the problem here is that we have all sorts of people who do not know these facts, chiming in and going off half-educated on the matter.

I will say this one final time--IF THIS IS NOT YOUR ISSUE, STAY OUT OF THE THREAD. If you choose not to, NO MATTER WHAT SIDE YOU SUPPORT, you WILL be getting a ban for your efforts. Is that clear enough people? If someone has info to add, by all means, I am always happy to discuss the matter via PM's.
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Originally Posted by 680RWHP12A
read the thread!!! the BAR investigator told me your car got impounded. i said that already... your wife signed for the car releasing my liability , not to mention it was there sitting for weeks without moving. thats illegal in california. but you dont care, you blame someone else and expect them to pick up the bill like you always do.

as far as you being ignorant, who buys a house in the peak of the market with an interest only loan? LOL!!!! stupid!!!!!!! nuf said

the BAR was at the shop and you will have your copy of the report, bad news is so will i, and it will help me in court.. than you again!!

p.s. read this slowly. i dont accept credit cards and dont plan on it . paypal works fine for me
when are you comming to pick up your parts ivan?

this is not looking good for you ivan. if you do take me to court i will counter sue for the money you owe, you can count on it! instead of spending money on a lawyer you should make your house payment
Everything would look good in you if you had a license don't change things around ..
i will counter sue for the money you owe, lol No license... no honey $$
instead of spending money on a lawyer you should make your house payment
It makes me remember an e-mail you sent me :
From: robert < robert@rotaryshack.com
To: eiagc@yahoo.com
If you have money for a lawyer then you should be able to pay to fix your car the right way, with you no thank you

You have a history changing things around from the past .....Remember Mazdacom forum....? and you still doing it here.....
in top of it The moderator Catch you in contradictions in your side of your story.
an You still fighting back.....
I have it all ..... what you done is fraud ... for don't want to give me the copies of the work you get paid for .....
Getting in the school never is late to get license so you know how to operate a legit Business no a shaddy one.....like the one you own.


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[B]how do you know my car got impounded..?
By the way it is not longer impunded its in my house.... Since you mentioned the impound of my car on this forum and because you delivered the car and left in the street without the ability to move I guess I add those impound charges to my complaint Thanks a lot Rob ... I was not thinking about that.Thanks again.
tenaz, once the car is signed for, it is no longer his responsibility. It was up to you at that point to get the car where it needed to be in order to comply with the laws in your area. It isnt his fault that your car was impounded, you left it on the street. If you tried to add impound fees to what you say he owes you, a judge would throw it right out and tell you what I just said.

You don't have to be sorry I'm not losing my house ....
My house is not the topic on this threat.
and I'm not an ignorant ..why you don't ask youself that question..?
Get your mechanic license,get your Licenses for the city and state,get your credit card machine instead of using your neighboors...So you can accept Credit Cards...
or your want to keep for ever your garage as The Flistones Rotary Shack..?
Here's an idea, how about the two of you knock this crap off and work on resolving the issue? At this rate you two will drag it on another two years just with the insults youre tossing back and forth.


as far as you being ignorant, who buys a house in the peak of the market with an interest only loan? LOL!!!! stupid!!!!!!! nuf said
Robert--stop airing this guy's transactions that have nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that you botched this transaction. His house is none of your damn business, nor is it anyone else's. Stick to the topic at hand, another moderator already addressed that in this thread and specifically stated for you to leave this garbage out of your posts.

when are you comming to pick up your parts ivan?
You have told me on at least two occasions that you were going to return those parts to him on a certain date. You failed to do so on both of those occasions. I even caught you in a lie about that--you first claimed that every time you spoke to tenaz, he said that his witness wasnt available. When I asked you a second time why this wasnt done yet, you claimed that you kept trying to call tenaz and that he never answered his phone or returned your calls. Stop with the bull already and get the guy his parts.

if you do take me to court i will counter sue for the money you owe, you can count on it!
What money does he owe you? Thats just it--according to the very invoices you sent me, he doesnt owe you all this money you keep claiming he owes! You even stated to him in communication that you werent charging him for work that you now claim he never paid you to do! YOU DO NOT HAVE A CASE FOR ALL THIS MONEY YOU KEEP CLAIMING HE OWES YOU because your own numbers prove otherwise.

Why the hell dont you just get the guy his parts back and put this to an end already?
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tenaz, once the car is signed for, it is no longer his responsibility. It was up to you at that point to get the car where it needed to be in order to comply with the laws in your area. It isnt his fault that your car was impounded, you left it on the street. If you tried to add impound fees to what you say he owes you, a judge would throw it right out and tell you what I just said.


Thanks for the clarification...

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Why the hell dont you just get the guy his parts back and put this to an end already?

Because he doesn't recognize his own mistakes....


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Why the hell dont you just get the guy his parts back and put this to an end already?

Because he doesn't recognize his own mistakes....


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Do you think youre helping the matter when you fire back at him? Dont you think youve said it enough times that he runs an unlicensed shop?

There is only one reason why this is still unresolved, and that is because BOTH OF YOU have failed to work this out. how about a little less jaw-jacking at each other and a little more working to get things done? On both sides? If you guys had put half the effort into fixing this as you have into trying to one-up each other, this would have been over months ago. Let's knock off the crap and focus on a resolution
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why don't you close this thread too rx7roller.? you **** everywhere else!!!!!

YOU FAIL!!!!!!




FYI you are loosing the battle here guy take a vacation or your going down with the ship. you can ban my customers, delete posts , edit threads, close threads as you see fit,throw your dog **** around but forum members see this and are getting tired man!!!! chill out!!!!!

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why don't you close this thread too rx7roller.? you **** everywhere else!!!!!

YOU FAIL!!!!!!




FYI you are loosing the battle here guy take a vacation or your going down with the ship. you can ban my customers, delete posts , edit threads, close threads as you see fit,throw your dog **** around but forum members see this and are getting tired man!!!! chill out!!!!!

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=881147
Why dont you stop worrying about me and handle your business like a man already?

I made it 100% clear why I closed that thread, there were two reasons and both are legitimate. No other sellers around here either need or get the benefit of having the same people post multiple threads about the same transactions. The people who posted in that poll have already posted feedback threads about you, some of them even just did it last night! All I did was put you on the same level as every other seller on the forum, and youre actually crying about it?

Second, I pointed out that HONESTY matters here. We do NOT need anyone, and I repeat, ANYONE, posting how you have "always great service" when that same person has admitted in other recent threads that your customer service is lacking--and when YOU YOURSELF said that your customer service doesnt measure up! This feedback forum is for HONEST ACCOUNTS of transactions, not for heaping unwarranted praise upon a friend just to try to counter the negative threads that friend has going on right now!

You lied to me how many times? And you seriously dont get this yet? Between you, racerlinkfc, and kerebrus, so many things have proven not to be true. One of them insisted repeatedly that you are a licensed business, and you yourself admitted that you arent. You told me at one point that all of Ivan's parts were returned, that you WENT TO HIS HOUSE and POINTED EACH ONE OUT FOR HIM TO SEE.....and now you admit that you still have some of them! You claimed that he never got them back because he told you on the phone that his witness wasnt available....and THEN you claimed that it was because each time you called him he would never pick up the phone! You claim he owes you money for the engine tear-down, and then we see a pm or email where you told him that THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE A CHARGE FOR THAT WORK. You claim that it was HIS fault that it took you so long to get to his car--that he never paid you, but then an email is posted showing you APOLOGIZING TO HIM for MAKING HIM WAIT SO LONG. You called BS about the email I said I'd received showing you telling a guy that you would make him wait a long time for his parts if he talked trash about RS on this forum....and then I posted it, and you have nothing to say about it now, do you? I could go on literally all damn day about how much you have lied.

Its time for you to get this finished. STOP worrying about ME and get the guy his damn parts! HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS, and STOP trying to tell me how to handle MINE. It is my JOB to get involved when someone pulls the crap you've tried to lie your way out of in here. If you dont like my involvement, then CLEAN YOUR ACT UP, STOP LYING, and GET THESE GUYS WHAT YOU OWE THEM!
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