E85 Experience
I swear by E85/E98. For those out there, if the pump is near you, spend the money to upgrade your setup. You have to see what the motor looks like internally that's running on ethanol. I think it's the best thing out there and changed how I view my car. For years I would have to buy C16 for high boost, (I did have water/meth injection for years too) but I was always worried about that. Now the same fuel I drive on the street on (15psi), is the same fuel I use on 30psi.
I cant see the excuse why a guy with the kind of money in his car for a 600+hp set up cant have a cheap laptop that can swap out the map if he is going on a road trip and cant find E85, or run a EMS that can switch it easily.
Yeah...if you are serious and have a 600 HP gas powered car, you have to be running either water injection and or race gas. Might as well take the next step.
I have 2, 5 gallon fuel containers I take with me to the gas staion when I fill up. I keep these on hand so I don't have to go that often.
Taking her to the track Saturday. Hoping to make it in the 130 MPH club.
I have 2, 5 gallon fuel containers I take with me to the gas staion when I fill up. I keep these on hand so I don't have to go that often.
Taking her to the track Saturday. Hoping to make it in the 130 MPH club.
I will be running E85 in my shop Rex 3 rotor PPT. The benefits outweigh fuel consumption and the lack of stations carrying E85 
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Do you mean pump gas in addition to some sort of water/meth injection?
I swear by E85/E98. For those out there, if the pump is near you, spend the money to upgrade your setup. You have to see what the motor looks like internally that's running on ethanol. I think it's the best thing out there and changed how I view my car. For years I would have to buy C16 for high boost, (I did have water/meth injection for years too) but I was always worried about that. Now the same fuel I drive on the street on (15psi), is the same fuel I use on 30psi.
I swear by E85/E98. For those out there, if the pump is near you, spend the money to upgrade your setup. You have to see what the motor looks like internally that's running on ethanol. I think it's the best thing out there and changed how I view my car. For years I would have to buy C16 for high boost, (I did have water/meth injection for years too) but I was always worried about that. Now the same fuel I drive on the street on (15psi), is the same fuel I use on 30psi.
It's no doubt good fuel when you get good batches.
All of the above. Pump w/ Injection and without. theres many 500+ HP cars that use just pump. If i built a track only car it would be running it no doubt. Since i put mostly all my miles on the street, for me it's not worth it. I would have to A. order a drum of it, but that does me no good once i leave the house. B. when i "fill up" i have to remeber im only going to have a 1/2 tank by the time i get home so any time i go anywere i have to plan for half tanks. It's no doubt good fuel when you get good batches.
It's no doubt good fuel when you get good batches.I am fortunate I have E85 readily available to me and it is consistantly at least 90% ethanol. It has been of great benefit.
I will be running E85 in my shop Rex 3 rotor PPT. The benefits outweigh fuel consumption and the lack of stations carrying E85 ...
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in response to RXTASTY57 TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE...
I daily drive my 80mm turbo rx7 (meaning my only source of transportation)
My driving temps (highway) are 163F=72c
stop & go temps city wise on a hot day 170F=76c
run 28lbs of boost pushing 700hp.......
& what helps alot is the availability (16+ U-Gas stations around a 130mile radius north or south)
LOVE E85 & been using it since september 2009. no blown motor running a 5in intercooler & a koyo radiator with ONE oil cooler..... again.... ONE OIL COOLER WITH temps in the 70c...
The only time the temps get into the 80c is when i use the A/C
SCREW THE RX7 RUMORS... I STATE THE FACTS FROM BEING A 2 YEAR E85 USER
I daily drive my 80mm turbo rx7 (meaning my only source of transportation)
My driving temps (highway) are 163F=72c
stop & go temps city wise on a hot day 170F=76c
run 28lbs of boost pushing 700hp.......
& what helps alot is the availability (16+ U-Gas stations around a 130mile radius north or south)
LOVE E85 & been using it since september 2009. no blown motor running a 5in intercooler & a koyo radiator with ONE oil cooler..... again.... ONE OIL COOLER WITH temps in the 70c...
The only time the temps get into the 80c is when i use the A/C
SCREW THE RX7 RUMORS... I STATE THE FACTS FROM BEING A 2 YEAR E85 USER
I am only trying to convince people that are interested. It's not like I am some christian wacko trying to convince you to go to church!
If you don't or can't benefit from the information, don't try to tell me it doesn't work because I KNOW otherwise.
I am just spreading my experience which has been 110% positive.
Again.... I don't know why more people don't use it!
If you don't or can't benefit from the information, don't try to tell me it doesn't work because I KNOW otherwise.
I am just spreading my experience which has been 110% positive.
Again.... I don't know why more people don't use it!
I will be running E85 in my shop Rex 3 rotor PPT. The benefits outweigh fuel consumption and the lack of stations carrying E85 ...
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CHIP! more pictures man!!! bring them on! Who says **** isnt aloud in this forum
ChipsMotorsports, your engine bay and 3 rotor setup is so clean I could cry. lol, anyway I've heard some great things about e85...and this thread has made me a believer now, but I do have one question. I know the rtek (I obviously won't be running this) has the ability to load up different fuel and timing maps by a tap on the palm pilot, why can't you get a tune with gasoline and a tune with e85? I'm new to this so don't hate if I'm missing something crucial here, I mean these ID2000 injectors can idle a car so they can be retuned to run properly for gas am I correct? or can other EMS not do such a thing?
For long cruises, run your e85 dangerously low and fill up on gasoline...and if you want to turn up the boost come race day, hell, drain the gasoline and fill it up with e85?
For long cruises, run your e85 dangerously low and fill up on gasoline...and if you want to turn up the boost come race day, hell, drain the gasoline and fill it up with e85?
e85 has produced great numbers but so has 93 octane with h2o, meth, 50/50, and alcohol injection as well as all the race gases that im not going to name. It comes down to preference, tuner, setup and the amount of abuse your going to give the motor and some other factors that i did not add. And yes abuse does matter they say 1 drag race mile is equal to 1000miles put on the motor all of it adds up weather its a rotary or piston. No matter what fuel your using weather its race gas e85 and yes 93 octane but with a AI they are all safer and all will make roughly the same power. For a grocery getter street/ show car 500whp is plenty and easy to make no matter what fuel your running.
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Sorry for making two posts but I just wanted to elaborate on something.
Depending on where you live E85 may not necessarily be 85% alcohol. I live in northern Ohio and soon as temperatures get colder the amount of alcohol in E85 is adjusted. Racers that run it where I come from have to frequently test the E85 to make sure that the alcohol levels are correct. Last time it was tested in April it was only 70% alcohol and 30% gasoline. If your car is highly tuned this could cause a problem.
just startn is giving examples given that the car is going to see a fair amount of street driving. His examples are correct and you can make plenty of power on 93octane with auxiliary injection.
Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean that you have the right to insult them. If someone is not as knowledgeable as you on a topic then you should point out where their information is incorrect to help educate them. Part of what this forum is all about is to provide access to information on these cars/engines and senseless name calling will never help in educating the community.
Depending on where you live E85 may not necessarily be 85% alcohol. I live in northern Ohio and soon as temperatures get colder the amount of alcohol in E85 is adjusted. Racers that run it where I come from have to frequently test the E85 to make sure that the alcohol levels are correct. Last time it was tested in April it was only 70% alcohol and 30% gasoline. If your car is highly tuned this could cause a problem.
just startn is giving examples given that the car is going to see a fair amount of street driving. His examples are correct and you can make plenty of power on 93octane with auxiliary injection.
Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean that you have the right to insult them. If someone is not as knowledgeable as you on a topic then you should point out where their information is incorrect to help educate them. Part of what this forum is all about is to provide access to information on these cars/engines and senseless name calling will never help in educating the community.
I'm also thinking about converting to E85, Can u please tell what are the procedures/ tools/ insturments of finding out the concentration levels? Thanks
Just experienced a problem with E85.
I run a Walbro in my main tank that feeds a sump which has 2 Bosch 044's coming off of it.
My 044's started cavitating the other day. I thought it was due to the heat outside.
Took my fuel system apart and found the sock on the Walbro was all gummed up and wouldn't allow enough fuel to flow through it.
The fuel socks on Walbro or stock pumps were never mean't for E85.
My 044's developed air pockets and that caused them to cavitate.
I put a new sock in and put it all back together and it purrs like a kitten now. My pumps are quieter than they have ever been!
I am going to replace the Walbro with another 044 and use this sock.
http://www.jayracing.com/index.php?m...oducts_id=3458
I run a Walbro in my main tank that feeds a sump which has 2 Bosch 044's coming off of it.
My 044's started cavitating the other day. I thought it was due to the heat outside.
Took my fuel system apart and found the sock on the Walbro was all gummed up and wouldn't allow enough fuel to flow through it.
The fuel socks on Walbro or stock pumps were never mean't for E85.
My 044's developed air pockets and that caused them to cavitate.
I put a new sock in and put it all back together and it purrs like a kitten now. My pumps are quieter than they have ever been!
I am going to replace the Walbro with another 044 and use this sock.
http://www.jayracing.com/index.php?m...oducts_id=3458
I will be running the FUELAB stainless sock filter on my pump. I've heard of stories of filters getting gummed up over time. FUELAB also advises against using a standard after pump paper based filter. I purchased a fiberglass filter for this purpose.
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I suspect that the E85 was breaking down the glue used to hold the paper filter element in place. I would certainly suggest frequent replacement and inspection (read cut it open have a look).
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The difference between a Walbro and the 044s is pretty much like running water on a street curb after a drizzle and the Mississippi River.
Perhaps an exaggeration, but the 044s flow much more at much higher pressure than the Walbro can dream of.
And other than the obvious, what do you need to know about the injectors? You need more fuel. You can't touch E85 on 550/1600s. You'll never have enough.
Perhaps an exaggeration, but the 044s flow much more at much higher pressure than the Walbro can dream of.
And other than the obvious, what do you need to know about the injectors? You need more fuel. You can't touch E85 on 550/1600s. You'll never have enough.
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The difference between a Walbro and the 044s is pretty much like running water on a street curb after a drizzle and the Mississippi River.
Perhaps an exaggeration, but the 044s flow much more at much higher pressure than the Walbro can dream of.
And other than the obvious, what do you need to know about the injectors? You need more fuel. You can't touch E85 on 550/1600s. You'll never have enough.
Perhaps an exaggeration, but the 044s flow much more at much higher pressure than the Walbro can dream of.
And other than the obvious, what do you need to know about the injectors? You need more fuel. You can't touch E85 on 550/1600s. You'll never have enough.