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Old 06-12-18, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Turblown
No features would be disabled -

I did not mention the Rx8 forum.. I guess you cannot read.. I was saying that Andy has been using the traction control features with success on the Rx8 ECU. The actual functions of the features do not change between any of the ECU's. I was explaining that the Rx8 gets its speed readings over the CAN communication thus the real-time Module is not required for that particular ECU.

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Deleted your copy and paste crap so I can get to the simple facts of this...

You are mentioning an Rx8 ECU Functioning properly with a system on an Rx7 Forum. Whatever that PnP ECU gains in functionality won't magically appear on the M2000/6000 as you'd hope. We've already seen that backwards compatibility isn't a thing Adaptronic does. Look at the E440d, WARI and E1200 w/ Sekuku... Running WARI on a M6000 might help, until you start logging and realizing it hiccups like we were shotgunning Redbull and Champagne.

Features Lost:
  • You CANNOT Combine DBW + Traction Control + Proper Amounts of I/O on the M2000, which means that you must go M6000.
  • M6000 with all Modules comes out to $3835.00 with 2m Loom. HAHAHA, You could get an Emtron KV12, Haltech Elite 2500 with I/O Box and other CAN modules, or MoTec M150 w/ GPR Package for that and have a software that isn't junk.
  • Your DBW Configuration is still crap.
  • Fuel Model is still crap.
  • Software is absolute crap.
  • Investing in Marketing instead of Engineering is always crap.
Check my comprehension again, see what happens.

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Old 06-12-18, 09:37 PM
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Ah yes Ryan you continue to impress me with your ignorance! Generally you show it on a more public place like facebook for everyone to see and put you in your place but never the less I will be happy to educate you.

I am not sure where you are getting your data logging opinion from but I do 2-3 remote tune adjustments a day with these "hiccuping ECU logs" at they all show the correct data every single time... just this weekend spent at the track taking Internal logs from my friends car without skipping a beat!

I guess I will say it again. The traction control function works on all modular ecus (With the associated hardware minus the m1200 which is designed this way "budget ECU" other manufactures follow this same structure lol). The current example of it working is with Andy dialing it in for the Rx8 Modular PnP ECUs. The explanation was just an example that it does work and anyone can choose to use it if they please.

You obviously do not understand how the modular Module System works... Just because there is extra slots you do not have to fill them with anything.... IE if you need Traction control + DWB it is simply only $100.00 more to upgrade to the m6000 from the m2000. Yes you do have the purchase both of the modules $150.00 + $240.00.

So let me get my math right here... $1450.00 + $150.00 + $240.00 and hell lets throw in an additional analog input module for $150.00 this equals $1990.00 ok lets add the loom and the extra connector set $225.00 + $70.00 and when we add this all up its $2,285.00 not $3835.00

Now granted I know since you are such a genius and going for 3000hp in your amazing FB build you are going to need 24 injectors right? because adding the two large output modules are really only for individuals using more than 8 injectors... IE 3/4 rotor with 3 stages. Also since you will only need 4 ign outputs there is an additional 32 Aux outputs because I am sure you will need all of that!

I don't seem to have any issues setting up the Drive by wire cars.. You obviously do not understand how it works... which is kinda surprising for the amount BS you like to spew out!

Why don't you ask Paul Yaw about Andy's fuel model and then get back to me.

Id like to also say this... Adaptronic is a small team... 5 people... Andy - software/firmware engineer, Frank - software engineer, Mark - Technical support Senior, Teskoy - Technical support Advisor - and lastly Larry - the accountant.

So they do accomplish as much as they can as fast as they can... It will be nice once the company is large enough to meet everyone needs and requests. But for now there are obviously certain priorities that need to be met before the next thing can be added to the list. The "Self Learning" function is going to be released soon along with the Arbitrary logic which will allow individuals to create their own functions granted this will def be a higher learning curve.

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Old 06-12-18, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Turblown
Ah yes Ryan you continue to impress me with your ignorance! Generally you show it on a more public place like facebook for everyone to see and put you in your place but never the less I will be happy to educate you.

I am not sure where you are getting your data logging opinion from but I do 2-3 remote tune adjustments a day with these "hiccuping ECU logs" at they all show the correct data every single time... just this weekend spent at the track taking Internal logs from my friends car without skipping a beat!

I guess I will say it again. The traction control function works on all modular ecus (With the associated hardware minus the m1200 which is designed this way "budget ECU" other manufactures follow this same structure lol). The current example of it working is with Andy dialing it in for the Rx8 Modular PnP ECUs. The explanation was just an example that it does work and anyone can choose to use it if they please.

You obviously do not understand how the modular Module System works... Just because there is extra slots you do not have to fill them with anything.... IE if you need Traction control + DWB it is simply only $100.00 more to upgrade to the m6000 from the m2000. Yes you do have the purchase both of the modules $150.00 + $240.00.

So let me get my math right here... $1450.00 + $150.00 + $240.00 and hell lets throw in an additional analog input module for $150.00 this equals $1990.00 ok lets add the loom and the extra connector set $225.00 + $70.00 and when we add this all up its $2,285.00 not $3835.00

Now granted I know since you are such a genius and going for 3000hp in your amazing FB build you are going to need 24 injectors right? because adding the two large output modules are really only for individuals using more than 8 injectors... IE 3/4 rotor with 3 stages. Also since you will only need 4 ign outputs there is an additional 32 Aux outputs because I am sure you will need all of that!

I don't seem to have any issues setting up the Drive by wire cars.. You obviously do not understand how it works... which is kinda surprising for the amount BS you like to spew out!

Why don't you ask Paul Yaw about Andy's fuel model and then get back to me.

Id like to also say this... Adaptronic is a small team... 5 people... Andy - software/firmware engineer, Frank - software engineer, Mark - Technical support Senior, Teskoy - Technical support Advisor - and lastly Larry - the accountant.

So they do accomplish as much as they can as fast as they can... It will be nice once the company is large enough to meet everyone needs and requests. But for now there are obviously certain priorities that need to be met before the next thing can be added to the list. The "Self Learning" function is going to be released soon along with the Arbitrary logic which will allow individuals to create their own functions granted this will def be a higher learning curve.

Thanks,
Shawn Christenson
There is NO definition on how any of this **** works and its all just hearsay on facebook and youtube, none of which is current to whatever attempted version of functional the software is at this week. Any and all trace disappeared on the adaptronic forums, and you people completely ignore this forum entirely these days. This ecu platform founded itself on customer support and now the best it can offer is your ******* biased salesman opinion on your own product once every 3-4 months and you think that earns you credibility. You have no idea how any other products work or any experience with them, you just pitch this because its what you're selling.

Maybe if you know so much you should write the goddamn manual that the ecu platform is missing, and explain to everyone how this mysterious box of **** works since nobody actually knows.

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Originally Posted by Turblown
Id like to also say this... Adaptronic is a small team... 5 people... Andy - software/firmware engineer, Frank - software engineer, Mark - Technical support Senior, Teskoy - Technical support Advisor - and lastly Larry - the accountant.
And you consider this a rival product and company to Haltech, Fueltech or Motec? When they have multiple people with experience working to produce a refined product as opposed to 5 people worked half to death? There is no check and balance, no second set of eyes, no second opinion, no alternative experienced professional other than Andy. This is precisely why the new software sucks ***** 2+ years after release and people are reverting back to using wari instead, which even in its final version was heavily flawed. But...it doesn't matter as this ecu is marketed towards the uninformed consumer who you proceed to politely screw into thinking they'll have an equivalent product and actual customer service, but their money is long gone by the time they realize that its bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Turblown
Ah yes Ryan you continue to impress me with your ignorance! Generally you show it on a more public place like facebook for everyone to see and put you in your place but never the less I will be happy to educate you.

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See it and put me in my place. Okay, here's some of that then.

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Shawn,

Adaptronic is not a NEW company.

I wonder how many sweaters, sweatpants, and salesmen dollars it would have taken to hire another software engineer or three...
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Its ironic that calculator is on his own sales page. Maybe its a torque to yeld calculator that doesn't account for yung's modular, that may explain the discrepancy
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I think his point was that you only need the large modules if you're running a 12 rotor engine or similar craziness. If you look only at the small modules, the price is more reasonable
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Originally Posted by SirLaughsALot
Shawn,

Adaptronic is not a NEW company.

I wonder how many sweaters, sweatpants, and salesmen dollars it would have taken to hire another software engineer or three...
Once again you impress me with your ignorance.... I bought the sweatshirts with my own money.... I did this to get money for my own car build... my mom helped me out by getting them at her cost for me. So no it would not of paid for any engineer

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Originally Posted by $lacker
I think his point was that you only need the large modules if you're running a 12 rotor engine or similar craziness. If you look only at the small modules, the price is more reasonable
Thank you sir!

Ryan likes to flex his ignorance on the product thinking that he has to purchase one of the large output modules.. I love that he even proved it by taking a screen shot and posting it on this page. I know his build does not have more than 8 injectors and based on what he just posted I am pretty sure he does not need 34 Aux outputs with 8 of them being High/low and 26 being low only.

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Well, thankfully I pay $0 for an incomplete software.

Good Luck!
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