dvs71990

Searched with no results. Is it a uncommon thing for the fc? I just want to see pictures so I can get an idea.

Battle Cat

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search a little harder, ive started a thread on this along with various other ppl.

Battle Cat

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here ya go,, made it easier for ya.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=vmount

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=vmount

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=vmount

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=vmount

dvs71990

Thank you

Battle Cat

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heres some pics...

Battle Cat

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np, theres various ways of doing this, justin pawlak has pics on the forum of his v-mount as well as TTT(love his set up)

Good luck on yours...

dvs71990

Those pics were very helpful, I appreciate them. I'll eventually make a thread of the build up when I get my car pulled of a ditch.

Battle Cat

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np, its always good help out any way possible....

sweet, keep me up dated when you get your project going.

btbaus

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hey guys im new to this. what are the advantages and disadvantages between v-mounts, front mounts and top mounts??????

dvs71990

v mount allows the radiator to get air, shorter pipes call for better response. Front mounts block the rad and oil cooler and is also an alarm for theieves to rip your car off. The only benefit of the front mount i see is, its easier to put together.

TitaniumTT

Biggest problem with FMIC is the cooling air needs to go through the intercooler, then the oil cooler, then the condensor (if so equiped) and then through the rad. Howard Coleman did some testing on his SMIC on his FD and found that the air speed exiting his intercooler at highway speeds was between 3-5mph. To me that's incredible but makes sense. FMIC's rob the other exchangers of fresh air with decent velocity causing them to be MUCH less effective. My setup was planned from the start to allow every single heat exchanger, and even both front brakes, to have it's own source of ducted (which is also key) unmolested ambient air. It's just WAY more complicated and most people lack the tools to really do it right in my eyes.

The ducting sucks. I'm on day 7 of mine and still not finished with JUST the ducting

btbaus

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ahhhh. seems as if v-mount is the best way to go. a bigger turbo means a bigger intercooler right? is that why u dont see many aftermarket top mount intercooler setups? smic? side mount intercooler???

TitaniumTT

You don't see too many aftmkt tmic becuase there's not much more to be gained with a tmic. You're limited by two things, size of the duct (you really want to buy a new hood just becuase you have a bigger intercooler) and placement/size constrictions. Personally I think all aftmkt TMIC are kind of a waste.

TitaniumTT

[quote=zerox7;8828954]heres some pics...




I really like the one above. I would like to see pics of how it's supprted at the "V" though.



I hate this one. A structural piece, albiet weak, but still plays a part, was cut out, I can't see any re-enforcement, the mounting is pisspoor in my eyes, angle iron welded on the frame rails? It doesn't look like it runs across, it's not gussetted and I bet I could break that entire setup with one shot from my 3lb deadblow. I was able to STAND on the end of my setup and I saw no visible deflection.

This also really isn't a true VMIC, it's more of an HMIC like mine and BlueTII's who was an after-inspiration for mine

CyborgRyu

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[QUOTE=TitaniumTT;8865048]
Thanks, that one is mine; built by Defined Autoworks. I requested that my V-mount setup actually setup as a V and not an acute angle "L" which I often see. How does air pass through the intercooler if its laying horizontal? That didn't make sense to me.










There was very little cutting required which is great if I decided to go back to stock. The ducting is pretty much created by its own setup, battery on my right, intake/piping on the left. I'm still running stock under body panel.

jdmsuper7

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The same way that it goes through it on a more "V" setup, pressure differential. That is why you pretty much have to run a vented hood in order to effectively gain a low pressure area above the intercooler, regardless of the angle of the V.

edit: P.S. SEAL THAT FREAKING GAP IN FRONT OF THE IC. You would shudder if you could see all the air that escapes through there without cooling anything.

CyborgRyu

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You mean the radiator panel? Like the one laying on my windshield in this picture?

TitaniumTT

Cool. One word to answer the question above - ducting. I'll post some pics of my ducting if I EVER get it done. It'll be self explanatory when you see it's layed out

I would drop a piece of sheetmetal from the intercooler strait down to the rad to keep the air contained as opposed to just spilling out. I think you'll gain some effeiciency.

Yeah..... tell that to BlueTII and myself I don't have any actual data as of yet and I do plan to dropvent my hood to gain a little bit of effeicency but a dropvented hood is by no means MANDATORY. I plan on proving this by running a few blasts down the highway & logging IAT's. Then going home and bolting on my STEEL non vented hood and making the same blasts down the highway and logging the IAT's. Well see just how much you pretty much have to run a vented hood then

drftwerks

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^^^^
i will love you for this test, i want to run non vented na al hood on my car.

jdmsuper7

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Yup, that's the one.

BLUE TII

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In my set up it is a duct that is formed from the front rubstrip to the intercooler.

This is why I say mine is a Horizontal Mount IC, it has a completely separate duct from the radiator and its function has no bearing on radiator position. I agree on a "traditional" V-mount with no ducting it is important to position the intercooler and radiator for the best compromise in airflow through the respective cores.








This vented VS non vented hood data is probably going to be enough to push me over the edge and run a vented hood now that my car is no longer my daily driver. Don't do the test man, LOL.

Battle Cat

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DAMN ******* SICK SET UPs, im still having a hard time finding out how ima gonna do mines, i originally planned on doing my own, but that fell throug. so now im stuck trying to find some one who can do my set up. but seeing cyborgryu's setup and seeing and following TTT, and doing some more research, its just a matter of time lol.

TitaniumTT

I should really start calling mine an HMIC now that you posted that. Our setups are ridiculously similar. When mine is finally worthy of completed pictures, I'm going to start a thread dedicated to HMIC's and proper ducting. I'll poke you when the time is right seeing as how I pulled a few parts directly from yours

I'm not so sure. Howard Coleman put a wind speedometer after the core on his SMIC and measured 3-5mph of airflow exiting the core while driving @ highway speeds. By venting the hood and ducting it to the intercooler as I plan to do, there will be a vaccuum created which will help pull air through the intercooler. But 5mph of air passing through the core without a vented hood I don't think will have enough resistance to alter the IAT's that much. But.... we'll see. All speculation until I actually have the time and the ***** to take a plasma cutter or a Jigsaw to a perfectly good AL hood.

I WISH Atihun would return e-mails. I'd buy their hood in a heatbeat

Turbo II Rotor

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I would also try to seal the area between the intercooler and rad support.

CyborgRyu

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I'll pick up some cardboard and read some AIT's, I'll try to get some better pictures, but as it is right now, my battery and filter fills the gap.