Can someone explain DTSS?
Can someone explain DTSS?
Can someone please explain DTSS to me?
I've done some searching, and what I've come up with leads me to believe they are a sort of bushing, and I've heard they aid us in cornering. But that might just be me talking out my ***....
So will someone explain what DTSS is, and what exactly it does, for me?
I've done some searching, and what I've come up with leads me to believe they are a sort of bushing, and I've heard they aid us in cornering. But that might just be me talking out my ***....
So will someone explain what DTSS is, and what exactly it does, for me?
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Originally Posted by mazdamark.com
As all the Japanese automotive manufactures were playing with rear steering in the mid -eighties, the RX-7 followed suite with an independent, Dynamic Tracking Suspension System with trailing arms, Triaxial floating hubs, camber control links, coil springs, and a 12 mm anti-roll bar (14 mm with the Heavy Duty suspension). Mazda claims to have applied for more than 100 patents on their Dynamic Tracking Suspension System independent rear suspension. With DTSS, the rear wheels become an active component of the steering system, changing from toe-out during low lateral force cornering to toe-in for extra stability during high lateral acceleration cornering situations and to reduce lift throttle over-steer which had been a problem on the 1st generation[RX-7]. Similar systems were soon found on Porsche and other German manufactures vehicles. In addition, toe changes during extreme breaking situations also "activated" the system resulting in shorter and more controlled stopping distances
So a set of linear and positioned bushings with compliant mounting, allowed specific toe control in high cornering and high braking situations.
With most drivers, they never even get to the point DTSS kicks in in 99% of their driving.
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For your purposes, it probably does nothing since the bushings are likely old and worn out by this point. To replace them involves brand new hub assemblies which is very expensive.
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they basically keep you from oversteering. like if you have the stock bushings and you try to start a drift i noticed that the car will start to slide but the drift will end prematurely and its very unpredictable in the way it handles while sideways.
racing beat makes dtss eliminators which are just a solid derlin replacement. they work great and make the car handle so much better in my opinion. way more predictable.
racing beat makes dtss eliminators which are just a solid derlin replacement. they work great and make the car handle so much better in my opinion. way more predictable.
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get eliminators and a thick rear swaybar if you don't wanna be oversteering.
You shouldn't even need the swaybar, have you ever noticed how drift/grip suspension setups are basically the same? Just learn to drive.
You shouldn't even need the swaybar, have you ever noticed how drift/grip suspension setups are basically the same? Just learn to drive.
Originally Posted by Sideways7
For your purposes, it probably does nothing since the bushings are likely old and worn out by this point. To replace them involves brand new hub assemblies which is very expensive.
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Originally Posted by bryanfc
get eliminators and a thick rear swaybar if you don't wanna be oversteering.
You shouldn't even need the swaybar, have you ever noticed how drift/grip suspension setups are basically the same? Just learn to drive.
You shouldn't even need the swaybar, have you ever noticed how drift/grip suspension setups are basically the same? Just learn to drive.
WHAT? Do you know how swaybars work? To reduce oversteer, you want a softer rear swaybar. This is basic stuff, people.
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Download SUSPENSION. It's a small file and won't take long. It MIGHT help. Might not. I didn't read any of the posts above.
Download SUSPENSION. It's a small file and won't take long. It MIGHT help. Might not. I didn't read any of the posts above.
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Originally Posted by bryanfc
get eliminators and a thick rear swaybar if you don't wanna be oversteering.
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Originally Posted by MmSadda
But with new hub assemblies, it would handle even better, right? as in more predictably, and better for grip?
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Look at these..Toe eliminators..(by the way,they "are Fun" to put in!) http://www.mazdatrix.com/rmounts.htm
Look at these..Toe eliminators..(by the way,they "are Fun" to put in!) http://www.mazdatrix.com/rmounts.htm
FUN!! like cancer!
i had a shop press mine in. only the 3rd thing i havent done on my car myself (1st was rotor bearings, 2nd is flywheel machining) so, they are indeed a pain to install, but, if yours are worn badly, as mine were, you WILL feel a significant improvement (mostly the "predictablility" of the car, once in a hard corner, it wont be all crazy, itll be more stable, and there wont be that strange 'break away' point as with the DTSS)
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