freddyrx3

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Who, on here can help me with knowing how durable or good are xs-power's wastegates and BOVs

XxMerlinxX

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Not very. When it comes to stuff like wastegates, you really need to stick with namebrand products.

arghx

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Wastegates will stick closed, BOV will leak under boost.

Miata_mx5

http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=180833

Say no to SS Autochrome, XS Power and other junk.

rossc

I had dual XS power BOVs on my 300zx, and they sounded fanstastic. I leak tested them before putting them on the car and had neither vaccuum or pressure leak.

I don't know if I would trust their wastegates though.

4CN A1R

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agreed

if you are looking for quality xs is not the way to go

R33Skyline

i has XS turbo mani on my skyline and it was excellent, never had a problem with it, the quality of the welds were excellent

grimple1

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it's really a crap shoot. some of their products are decent but some are definate no-nos. Stay away from their turbos at all cost!


the ICs are pretty good and a lot of guys run them. The single mani sees to be ok, also. A few run them.

Never heard of anyone complain or praise their BOVs or WAstegates. just my .02$

FASTorBUST

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I've seen thier manifolds crumble on my friends miata

0110-M-P

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It doesn't matter whether they work or not.....Don't buy knockoff ****. It just hurts the aftermarket industry. If you can't buy the real stuff, save your money until you can.

Everybody should do yourself a favor and read this...
http://datruthcometh.blogspot.com/20...-holidays.html

smog-guy707

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i have their exhaust... it came with the car but it sounds real good and doesnt leak or anything, i like it

XxMerlinxX

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It's pretty hard to screw up an exhaust. Pipe + Cannister = Exhaust

grimple1

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you do know that xspower is part of that "aftermarket industry"... right?

i don't know about everyone else but if it works, then use it. That goes for ALL products from EVERY company. So for me, it is about whether it works or not. That kinda seems important to me.

zanthrax

anyone who has worked in the aftermarket industry can tell you that many 'real stuff' items are from the exact same factories as the 'knockoffs'. I suspect fluidyne radiators of this for example.
Also, many of those factories even sell their merchandise to OEMs. Rota Wheels is a goed example of this.

But still, a lot of XSpower products are a-ok, others aren't worth a damn.

XxMerlinxX

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I don't know about XS Power getting products from the same factories as the Namebrand stuff, but I think they've found a Chinese contractor who can come close with most of it. Exhausts, intercoolers, and intakes are hard to get wrong, but there are other parts that they make, like wastegates, that can completely FUBAR your car. And for what? Saving $100 isn't worth it in this case.

ArmitageGVR4

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+1 I'll use a knock-off intercooler because there are no moving parts and if it fails, the worst thing that will happen is you'll have a massive boost leak. If a knock-off wastegate fails to open, you'll blow your motor.

0110-M-P

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Sure, they are a part of the aftermarket industry, but they are the part that is destroying it from within. Undercutting the companies who spend tons of money in R&D, by taking their product, copying it, and selling it for less. I would have to think that this makes the "good" companies less inclined to continue spending all their money on R&D, just to have it copied and renamed. (Have you seen some of the cars manufactured in China? They are ripoffs of entire cars made by another company....so as long as it works you support this?)

Not to mention that bad name that these companies give to other legitimate companies in the industry. XS Power and XS-Engineering is the best example of this. You would be surprised at how many people think that these two companies are one in the same, when clearly they are not.

So yeah...sure it works just fine, blah blah blah...but just remember, at the end of the day you are still contributing to the failure of good businesses who make quality parts.

finnicky7

Just pony up and buy Tial. They are the best out there, and they are 100% made in USA! When it comes to WG's and BOV's going cheap will cost you in the end.

Oliv

Received this week end their exhaust. Didn't install it yet so no comment on the install but it looks damn good !!!
I can't believe I spent so few for this quality and look!

Now exhaust is no bov nor wastegate. Would I have to invest on these I'd go for brands for sure!

DCrosby

Doesn't leak ? What do you call that big opening at the end ? No wonder it doesn't leak it has no reason to.... there's plenty of room for exhaust to go.... but I nderstand what you mean... no leaks that you can tell by the mounting flange to the mipipe

Marshall

or chunks of (the very sparsly populated) cooling fins/ "turbulators" (I use the term extremely loosly for these intercoolers) could break off and get injested into your motor. You think the dude in the cave making $100/mo gives a rats *** about the quality or technique of the brazing process?

Miata_mx5

screw a gym membership, lets all lift knockoff 46 lbs bar and plate xs power intercoolers.

Anyone who cares enough about the Research and Development they do, will charge for it. If a company does not give a damn, then sure you can get cheap 100 dollar exhaust manifolds that will fall apart after a 1 year of use. If no body did any damn development for the chinaman junk, they would have no where to turn to/or no idea how to build a damn thing.

Its real enthusiasts/companies, whether the parts are good or not, that give the foundation for scam-artists.

stonehac

The bar a plate intercooler are heavier period we all know that. Mine 12X24X4 weighs 22 lbs not sure where the 43 lb BS is coming from.

Spearco sells bar and plate and the one I have looks identical to a core a friend of mine had a couple years ago.

The 60mm waste gate has worked flawlessly at 22PSI and made 600rwhp on my built rb26. The blow off is also working fine with no leaking.

I would not run this waste gate or any other waste gate for that matter without a boost limiter setup just for safety’s sake. They all break sooner or later.

Manifolds falling apart??? Let’s talk about that. I have a greddy manifold right now that has been welded up at least 3 different times for cracks since new (less then 10 years). So let’s add it up. Greddy manifold 1000+ labor to tig weld it 3 times + 500.....knockoff manifold that lasts 1-2 years 150 bux. It cracks buy another.

I’m stony from fresh ******** I mean alloy. I did not go there or anywhere else to promote the knockoffs just share my experiences/luck.

Miata_mx5

So i take it you troll around on forums, and register to promote the stuff you choose to run, get a life. I said 46 lbs, i guess reading comprehension is not your friend. 1 post, nice. If all your knockoff companies do so much research and development, why do not they make a proper intercooler that is not an archaic bar and plate..thats right...the only reason they can knockoff is because real companies make products to copy.

You got your *** kicked by sean morris and eric hsu from XS engineering on freshalloy once already. You own an RB26 powered nissan, why are you on Rx7club just to "share your experiences" with 1 post?

stonehac

Comprehension???? How bout reading my post again and the one at fresh ********... I guess that includes you.... never promoted anything just shared my experiences. Never once did I tell anyone to buy the crap.

How bout you get off Sean and Erick’s ***** long enough to stop acting like one of there wannabe *** guzzlin homo’s and come up with some of your own words. 43lbs 46 lbs it’s still BS…..