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Old 05-25-04, 09:54 PM
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Ok guys check this car out... I have been lookin at it for a while and it used to be 16,500 obo 2 hours ago and now i just check it and its only 8k..... but he also added that it has a blown seal and will need a rebuild. How much will it cost for me to get this car running perfectly again? http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rd...or=&cardist=20

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Since it needs an engine and you have no way of testing the turbos, assume you have to replace both. Are you doing the work yourself, or do you have to have someone r&r this? It makes a difference. I will let someone else give you amounts as I haven't had to replace an engine (knocks on wood) or turbos at this point.
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BTW, aren't you glad you didn't bite at 16500.
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Single turbo and a engine would still be total 16,500 or less but know knows what else that car has gone though. What if the paint job is half assed. If you can take a look at it in person with someone who knows a lot about the cars then it might be a good buy.
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Well 2 hours ago the car was 16,500 obo and he is on a team that i will be joining. Im pretty sure the cars turbos fine and i know for sure the body is in perfect condition with a new paint job
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What was the seller doing. raging the **** out of the car cause he was selling it and blew the motor. If so what a f!@#ing pice of $hit.
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he was running 11.8 with a different turbo and since he is selling it he put alot of stuff back on (like the stock twins) I have a ton of inside sources on this car cause of Team Advancement. BTW more pics of his car at www.teamadvancement.com
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In that case.... headache... find a car with one or maybe two previous owners who are older and dont beat their cars.
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if its a coolant seal he probley didnt blow the turbo. but since hes reinstalling everything , its going to run like **** and take lots of time De-tuning i guess you could call it lol
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so are you guys saying its not worth 8500 obo?
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Whats being said is that its going to be such a huge headache you are better off buying a car that runs from the get go for more instead of paying for something that will require countless hours of labor to get running correctly. And are you 100% positive the turbos are good?? Unless you are, its better to plan for them being bad instead of hoping they arent.
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How much trust would you put into a guy selling a car with the e-mail like xcivicboyx@hotmail.com ....
very iffy to me
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the thing is that the guy is a friend of a friend. therefore i have people telling me how nice his car is that are real close to me. Well anyways ima check it out 2morrow and if I think it will be too trouble restoring it then i wont get it...he says it will run but coolant will rush out of the recovery tank
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A RX-7 will run on one rotor.... thats not the point. If you are interested in buying it and your going to check it out by yourself you will probably be too excited about owning the car then actually looking at potential problems.

So people think the car is nice... well I have a VW Golf which people think is nice and I bought it for 400$. The point is any car can be talked up, if you want to make a "perfect" RX-7 (if there is such a thing) you need to find a car from some old guy who keeps it garaged and wouldn't touch the car from it's stock condition.

If he has swaped parts back and fourth who knows what kind of dog **** it is put together with. First off look at the way the bumper lines up with the car... I mean did he put it on himself??? "Rage" rims WTF?? Whats up with the black gas cap???

If you have the kind of patients and know how to fix this car up, more power to you. I dont mean to bitch but I would hate for another RX-7 owner to come and go because they can't get their car "perfect."
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Ok well say the turbos and the motor are completely shot how much am I looking at? And no i wont be doin in myself....
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I disagree.

I think this is about as good as your going to do for a car with a shot engine.

It looks like it needs:

Some reliability mods: $1,500
Engine: $2,900
PFC: $1,300
Labor (if you can't do it yourself): $2,000
miscellaneous $1,000

Your looking at $15,700 for a car you know most of the maintenance on. Your turbos' may be bad....have them pulled, get a professional opinion. If they look bad prior to the reinstall pick up a used set of stock turbos (again, pending your goals) and your shop will most likely install them for near nothing.

You may be able to do a lot of this yourself or through resources a lot less expensive. That's your call, but how confident are you that you, or your friends can do it right?

I believe for a refurb, it's best to pay a professional. I've seen a LOT worse cars for $8,000. If your comfortable with how the car has been cared for, and the interior, I'd say it's a good deal.
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5000 for engine rebuild (a good one) and say another 1000 for turbos maybe 7000- 8000 total with labor and some rad upgrade etc. etc., which is not bad because it has 36000 miles which is excellent.

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Question

P.S. Why are we all so "practical" in our reasoning for such an "impractical" purchase. It's an FD, your GOING to put a lot of money into it. The difference between $6500 and $8500 will be negligible in the long run.

Then again. I've got WELL less than $30K in my car, and I can't think of anything else I would rather have.

And the above post...it's not complete, only budgetary. There are a lot of different ways to do things, based on your goals.
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Originally posted by wRxTaCy
Ok well say the turbos and the motor are completely shot how much am I looking at? And no i wont be doin in myself....
Just parts, you would be looking at around $2100 for a remanufactured engine (cheap route), $1000 for a turbo rebuild if the core is useable.

The miscellaneous stuff will run you probably another $1000 or so. Add in labor and you would be looking around $6000 or so (just guessing). You would be better off talking to some shops and getting quotes from them.
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That thing looks like ****. Bumper and light fitment is horrible.. And the paint doesn't look to match. He's on a team you'll be joining? I HOPE that's not a determining factor...
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Originally posted by wRxTaCy
he was running 11.8 with a different turbo and since he is selling it he put alot of stuff back on (like the stock twins) I have a ton of inside sources on this car cause of Team Advancement. BTW more pics of his car at www.teamadvancement.com
Never says anything about him ever having the T51R KAI installed.. It was listed as a "future" mod. YAY.
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I think you have your answer - replacing an engine with a stock reman costs about $5K including labor. Any engine upgrades are extra.

after that you already know the car, so no-one here can give you help there. And you must know that these cars are very expensive to own.

So if you are willing to mess with replacing the engine, and willing to find stuff that is broken (there always is) and pay for it to be fixed yourself then its just a matter of deciding whether you like the mods on the car. If you do then this will be a cheeper way to go then getting another car and moding to this spec. If you are looking for something different - or are looking for something that is already working perfectly, then go another route.
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With the bumper like that I would also be leery of the paint. "Just got a new paint job 3 months ago." If he was planning to unload the car he might have cut corners and got a cheap spray instead of paying $5000-8000 for a good one. Look very closely and find out who did it and the details. And what's going on with the gas door?
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http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rd...or=&cardist=16 lol we waited to long to check it out and its sold. some guy bought it for 10k. anyway does this one above look any better. were goin to check it out today.
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