Will I need more fuel mods?
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Will I need more fuel mods?
OK guys, my car will finally be done tomorrow. I did the full non-sequential conversion along with some other goodies and got a question. With my mods will I need new injectors to run 14psi on stock twins professionally tuned on my Apexi PowerFC?
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3" downpipe, 3" gutted high flow cat, 3" catback exhaust, Apexi intakes, Greddy elbow, Greddy M-Spec FMIC, stock twins running fully non-sequential with ported wastegate, PowerFC.
As you can see from my list I have NO fuel mods done at all. I can have a Denso Supra TT fuel pump tomorrow if I need it but I'm wondering if I'd need at least larger secondaries to safely run this setup on 14psi. I've searched extensively and some threads argue that the stock fuel system will easily be able to handle it even with 100% duty cycle (wtf??), which just doesnt seem right. Others say at least 1300cc's in the secondary rail. Looking to get the car back up and running ASAP because it has a paint appointment so I'd like it if it can be done at least w/ the new pump.
MODS:
3" downpipe, 3" gutted high flow cat, 3" catback exhaust, Apexi intakes, Greddy elbow, Greddy M-Spec FMIC, stock twins running fully non-sequential with ported wastegate, PowerFC.
As you can see from my list I have NO fuel mods done at all. I can have a Denso Supra TT fuel pump tomorrow if I need it but I'm wondering if I'd need at least larger secondaries to safely run this setup on 14psi. I've searched extensively and some threads argue that the stock fuel system will easily be able to handle it even with 100% duty cycle (wtf??), which just doesnt seem right. Others say at least 1300cc's in the secondary rail. Looking to get the car back up and running ASAP because it has a paint appointment so I'd like it if it can be done at least w/ the new pump.
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i ran a setup similar to yours previously, i had the fuel pump though. I saw 85-90% duty at 14lbs on the stock injectors.
Just get the fuel pump and u should be good
Just get the fuel pump and u should be good
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You'll be fine with the supra pump. People are going to disagree though. I will somewhat agree with them too as it's not the "smartest" idea to max out your duty cycle. Adding 850's to your primary slot is simple as you use the factory lines and it will surely give you more than enough fuel. If you want a modified primary rail with fresh 850's installed I have them done and in stock. My units are acid dipped and brushed to a sparking shine. I could have you one by the weekend... PM me if you're interested.
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You'll be fine with the supra pump. People are going to disagree though. I will somewhat agree with them too as it's not the "smartest" idea to max out your duty cycle. Adding 850's to your primary slot is simple as you use the factory lines and it will surely give you more than enough fuel. If you want a modified primary rail with fresh 850's installed I have them done and in stock. My units are acid dipped and brushed to a sparking shine. I could have you one by the weekend... PM me if you're interested.
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I'm getting 90% duty at 14 psi with stock twins and the usual bolt-ons with the stock fuel sysem. AFRs are 11:1ish under boost. I'm about to upgrade the pump but have no plans to upgrade injectors until I swap out the stock turbos.
People have happily run 90% duties (and higher) for years on these cars. Running 100% is looking for trouble though.
People have happily run 90% duties (and higher) for years on these cars. Running 100% is looking for trouble though.
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It's my personal opinion, but if you are wondering if you should, then almost always the answer is yes. Rebuilds aren't cheap, so why risk it. When it comes to building a car, patience truly is a virtue.
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OK I got the Supra pump today so I'll see what the duty cycles are looking like after it gets tuned, if theyre alittle too high I'll probably go with stock injectors and rail modded to 1300cc. I'll let everyone know next week or so what the cycles looked like after the tune. Thanks to everyone who answered in the thread, I appreciate the time you took to help me out.
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i'll be removing my OEM enlarged 1300's this weekend, they still work but i'm going for 500hp so i need 1600's. If you are interested pm me, they will be going for sale shortly for $250 shipped, i will also offer to have them cleaned and flow-tested by KG but will raise the price $50 to do that.
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i'll be removing my OEM enlarged 1300's this weekend, they still work but i'm going for 500hp so i need 1600's. If you are interested pm me, they will be going for sale shortly for $250 shipped, i will also offer to have them cleaned and flow-tested by KG but will raise the price $50 to do that.
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