Where will you and your FD be in a Decade?
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I've had my FD almost 3 years already. It's only been driven about 500 miles since then, and has been a royal pain in the ***, but I still love her. In 10 years, I'll hope to have completely restored the interior, gotten her painted a better color, and stuffed a better engine in her. 500rwhp on pump gas shouldn't be too difficult it's the time and $ that's holding me up right now.
There's no way I'm getting rid of the FD though. Might sell the C5 down the road, but it would get replaced with a ZR1(ha like that'll happen anytime soon). But the FD is the sexiest car on the planet as far as I'm concerned.
There's no way I'm getting rid of the FD though. Might sell the C5 down the road, but it would get replaced with a ZR1(ha like that'll happen anytime soon). But the FD is the sexiest car on the planet as far as I'm concerned.
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That's a very good point. It won't surprise me to see the U.S. follow a similiar pattern now that Obama and his crowd are in office. Expect to see more restrictions on, and regulation of, automobiles and some punative taxation too.
It's unlikely many owners will still have their same car a decade from now.
How do I know?
From looking at the ownership patterns of other cars. When you look at the registries of other marques, or the owners listed in the sale records of collector cars, it's suprising how often they change hands. And these are collector cars. The 3rd generation RX-7 is far from obtaining collector status. So far, it's just another used car.
I know of one original owner of a 289 Cobra. I met him once at Lime Rock. And the Cobra was a legend in its own time. I'm sure there must be a few more original Cobra owners, but not many...a literal handfull. Sorry, but our FD's don't carry the same rep either new or now that a Cobra did from day one. So, if Cobras and other classics change hands over time, FD's will as well. That is, if enough survive. Reading this Forum over time, the crash, and or, burn rate seems rather high.
I had researched the history of one exotic car I owned. It occurred to me I wasn't really an "owner." The car was like a work of art, and I was a "custodian." That is,
the car would go on beyond my ownership and I was just part of a chain.
I'm the original owner of a '95, so I look at most other posters here as short-termers. And it surprises even me that I've kept it this long. Like many things in life, it's always subject to change.
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No it's not Turbo'd
I plan on owning it until Someone Crashes into me or I crash it.... once the frame is done / fubar, it's over... but that doesn't mean I wouldn't own another... it's already happened once... although age is supposed to make you wiser, it did make me more careful, and I know these cars are money pits, but I'll probably switch if I get into another crash...
But so far I've been an FD owner since 2002, so seven years already.... damn ! how time flies !
But so far I've been an FD owner since 2002, so seven years already.... damn ! how time flies !
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I think the next decade the appeal for the FD will dwindle and later grow like crazy
This is my take on the FD purchase history:
1993-2004:
Badass car original/second/third owners getting older having other responsabilities sell it off.
2004-2012:
Kids who grew up wetting their pants for an FD can actually buy one (but not afford one) get them. I expect this trend to last another 2-3 years with the new broke *** kids who bought them end up selling them due to financial strain.
2012-2018:
As our FD's get even older the newest generation won't care for them as much and the FD will be be in cool car limbo. Think mid to late 80's and a 1969 camaro (insert GTO, charger whatever muscle car). Cool car but for the majority it wasn't hotness
2018 and beyond:
The FD will be like just like most muscle cars of the late 60's early 70's, by the mid 90's to today they are pure porno! (as FDSeoul would say lol)
That's my prediction for the FD and it's collectible status. I think it will comparable to what muscle cars are now.
This is my take on the FD purchase history:
1993-2004:
Badass car original/second/third owners getting older having other responsabilities sell it off.
2004-2012:
Kids who grew up wetting their pants for an FD can actually buy one (but not afford one) get them. I expect this trend to last another 2-3 years with the new broke *** kids who bought them end up selling them due to financial strain.
2012-2018:
As our FD's get even older the newest generation won't care for them as much and the FD will be be in cool car limbo. Think mid to late 80's and a 1969 camaro (insert GTO, charger whatever muscle car). Cool car but for the majority it wasn't hotness
2018 and beyond:
The FD will be like just like most muscle cars of the late 60's early 70's, by the mid 90's to today they are pure porno! (as FDSeoul would say lol)
That's my prediction for the FD and it's collectible status. I think it will comparable to what muscle cars are now.
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I know of one original owner of a 289 Cobra. I met him once at Lime Rock. And the Cobra was a legend in its own time. I'm sure there must be a few more original Cobra owners, but not many...a literal handfull. Sorry, but our FD's don't carry the same rep either new or now that a Cobra did from day one. So, if Cobras and other classics change hands over time, FD's will as well.
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I sorta agree montego but not really.
As the innovation of cars happen in a decade, technology triples in that time.
Look at cars from the 80s and cars of today.
Cars @ 2020 will make cars of the 90s look like cars of the 50s to us now.
I think all the FD will have in a 10-15 years is good looks, THATS IT IMHO.
Cause the powerplant will be like LOL to people @ 2020 with the super advanced automotive technology.
lol idk thats how i see it.
As the innovation of cars happen in a decade, technology triples in that time.
Look at cars from the 80s and cars of today.
Cars @ 2020 will make cars of the 90s look like cars of the 50s to us now.
I think all the FD will have in a 10-15 years is good looks, THATS IT IMHO.
Cause the powerplant will be like LOL to people @ 2020 with the super advanced automotive technology.
lol idk thats how i see it.
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I'll probably be rebuilding the motor.
Seriously though ill be getting older and and so will the car, i've had mine since I was 17 so i guess we'll be growing old together.
Who knows maybe Mazda will start reproducing chassis and engines like Ford did with the 60's era Mustangs...
Seriously though ill be getting older and and so will the car, i've had mine since I was 17 so i guess we'll be growing old together.
Who knows maybe Mazda will start reproducing chassis and engines like Ford did with the 60's era Mustangs...
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The E-Type isn't the proper analog. The 240Z, as you later suggest, is. And we're not seeing real collector price appreciation there. And when is this takeoff for the FD gonna happen? Some posters keep predicting it, but it's been more than 15 years now for most of these cars and they're worth less than they were 3 or 5 years ago. It's getting to sound like the promised second coming of Jesus. Always promised, but it never arrives.
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Yes, prized, but not collectible (in the generally accepted meaning of that term in the collector car world.)
If you read something such as Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine you can get a feel for how these things go. There are cars, such as say a Triumph TR6, and MGC, some Alfa roadsters that people treasure. They may even do full restorations on them. But they're not worth a whole heck of a lot, especially when you adjust the price for inflation.
Then there are other cars, Shelby Mustangs, some of the European brands, etc. that you can take one that's been completely trashed, pay the cost of a restoration, and still make money on the sale, or break close to even.
Taking a trashed FD and restoring it to showroom condition is a recipe for a financial reaming.
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I wasn't trying to make a direct comparison between the Cobra and the FD.
My point was this: When the Cobra was new it was generally acknowledged to be exceptional and highly desirable. In the performance doldrums of the '70s people thought we'd never seen such high performance again. Still, these cars changed hands rather frequently. Relatively few original owners were left.
So, when this thread poses the question of how many will still own their FD's 10 years from now? I say if people didn't hold on to their Cobras it's likely we'll see FD's continue to go through numerous owners.
In fact, a question that interests me is what is the median number of owners for these cars? From reading this Forum, I'd guess it's at least 3. Could be even higher, for all I know. Original owners has to be a relatively small group. Even the number of 2 owner cars is probably on the rare side.
My point was this: When the Cobra was new it was generally acknowledged to be exceptional and highly desirable. In the performance doldrums of the '70s people thought we'd never seen such high performance again. Still, these cars changed hands rather frequently. Relatively few original owners were left.
So, when this thread poses the question of how many will still own their FD's 10 years from now? I say if people didn't hold on to their Cobras it's likely we'll see FD's continue to go through numerous owners.
In fact, a question that interests me is what is the median number of owners for these cars? From reading this Forum, I'd guess it's at least 3. Could be even higher, for all I know. Original owners has to be a relatively small group. Even the number of 2 owner cars is probably on the rare side.
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uhhh..... i firmly believe i will sell it.
what? well if blasting through corners in a 4 door sedan constitutes a driving style change then yes.
obviously it will become rare. they're more ending up in junkyards than being built.
no its not going to be worth more.
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I think the next decade the appeal for the FD will dwindle and later grow like crazy
This is my take on the FD purchase history:
1993-2004:
Badass car original/second/third owners getting older having other responsabilities sell it off.
2004-2012:
Kids who grew up wetting their pants for an FD can actually buy one (but not afford one) get them. I expect this trend to last another 2-3 years with the new broke *** kids who bought them end up selling them due to financial strain.
2012-2018:
As our FD's get even older the newest generation won't care for them as much and the FD will be be in cool car limbo. Think mid to late 80's and a 1969 camaro (insert GTO, charger whatever muscle car). Cool car but for the majority it wasn't hotness
2018 and beyond:
The FD will be like just like most muscle cars of the late 60's early 70's, by the mid 90's to today they are pure porno! (as FDSeoul would say lol)
That's my prediction for the FD and it's collectible status. I think it will comparable to what muscle cars are now.
This is my take on the FD purchase history:
1993-2004:
Badass car original/second/third owners getting older having other responsabilities sell it off.
2004-2012:
Kids who grew up wetting their pants for an FD can actually buy one (but not afford one) get them. I expect this trend to last another 2-3 years with the new broke *** kids who bought them end up selling them due to financial strain.
2012-2018:
As our FD's get even older the newest generation won't care for them as much and the FD will be be in cool car limbo. Think mid to late 80's and a 1969 camaro (insert GTO, charger whatever muscle car). Cool car but for the majority it wasn't hotness
2018 and beyond:
The FD will be like just like most muscle cars of the late 60's early 70's, by the mid 90's to today they are pure porno! (as FDSeoul would say lol)
That's my prediction for the FD and it's collectible status. I think it will comparable to what muscle cars are now.
Cudas, Road Runners,Chargers, Prestine examples go for 100k and more in a booming economy.
The kids playing video games now with this car will be 30 or 40 in 10-15 years with the money to pay big. If the economy allows.
But like it was said before, The Obama crowd could spoil this prediction.