Where was the FD designed?
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
The new Viper was designed by an asian guy who works for Chrysler, which is owned by the Germans...
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At one point of the development, I was told by engineering that an outlet for the engine room was not necessary and we had to take this feature off the clay model.
If they had only known what kind of heat problems we would have...
If they had only known what kind of heat problems we would have...
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Originally Posted by jimlab
"A Chinese guy"?? How does his race have anything whatsoever to do with his abilities as a designer?
I said bordering on being racist, by the way. The comment was not intended to be derogatory, I assumed, but could have been offensive to someone of that race. Referring to someone as a "Chinese guy" could easily be offensive.
Think about it... if you're able.
I said bordering on being racist, by the way. The comment was not intended to be derogatory, I assumed, but could have been offensive to someone of that race. Referring to someone as a "Chinese guy" could easily be offensive.
Think about it... if you're able.
Chinese people are proud of their heritage. I have spend a lot of time around Chinese people. One Chinese family in particular are among my closest friends. They treat me like family even though I am not Chinese. There is no way that any of the Chinese men would be offended by being called a "Chinese guy". They are proud to be Chinese. To think differently is ridiculous.
Maybe you should think about it.
Huy gee (misspelled Chinese)....... look it up
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You can tell that americans designed it....... look at the ford probe. Everytime I see a probe coming towards me, I think it's a RX7. I know I'm not the only one.
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Originally Posted by PVerdieck
The front of the 2nd gen Probe looks similar to a BMW 8 series to me.
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Originally Posted by Gargamel
You can tell that americans designed it....... look at the ford probe. Everytime I see a probe coming towards me, I think it's a RX7. I know I'm not the only one.
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Originally Posted by adam c
You are not the only one. The other day, a red FD was coming toward me on the other side of the freeway. I thought it must be a Probe, as I never see FD's around here. I was surprised when it turned out to be an FD
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They defintley fixed it up nice. Our car could have looked like something from the jetsons.
The 3rd pic down with the rear wheels covered looks like a dragster. all it needs is the wheelie bar.
The 3rd pic down with the rear wheels covered looks like a dragster. all it needs is the wheelie bar.
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"Anyone ever heard of the mazda DISC-II rotary. (direct injection stratified charge) It has a pretty cool looking rotor and some neat economic advances."
A stratified charge rotary!!??? I would be intrested in learning more about that, was it 6-port? Power might not be so good, but the fuel economy and emissions must be way better.
A stratified charge rotary!!??? I would be intrested in learning more about that, was it 6-port? Power might not be so good, but the fuel economy and emissions must be way better.
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Originally Posted by adam c
To think differently is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by akiratdk
It was designed by a Pasadena Art Center College of Design student in Cali. I'm a car design major in this school so that is what the upper term students told me....
i went there, grad TRANS 97.
bah going back, i wanted to clear some stuff up. there are 4 major places designers go to school.
US west coast, US detroit/midwest, England, Germany. there is a scholo in Korea, but people go there first so that they can get into the schools in the US. in my graduatuing class there were only 3 US students. if i remember right, it was 8 koreans, 3 french, 1 luxembourg, 1 japanese, 1 turkish, 2 germans, 3 US
so most car designed today are based on American taught designers.
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Sure. The next time I need something from Srinivas, Anil, or Arun, I'll have to remember to say "hey Indian guy, come here".
"Thats right designed by a ___________ guy" Fill in the blank. Chinese, White, Black, Japanese, Hawaiian, German ........... it doesn't matter. It wasn't racist or derogatory. Would you have felt insulted if this referred to your nationality or ethnic background?
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i could care less what race someone is. but you have to admit that color is one of the easiest ways to identify someone.
and we all know about the reputation of non-japanese asian cars...
btw - my parents are from taiwan.
anyway i just saw the rx-01 top gear video. that and the prototype pictures of the FD scare me A LOT. i really do hope if they make an FE, that its not disgusting.
and we all know about the reputation of non-japanese asian cars...
btw - my parents are from taiwan.
anyway i just saw the rx-01 top gear video. that and the prototype pictures of the FD scare me A LOT. i really do hope if they make an FE, that its not disgusting.
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Originally Posted by adam c
"Thats right designed by a ___________ guy" Fill in the blank. Chinese, White, Black, Japanese, Hawaiian, German ........... it doesn't matter. It wasn't racist or derogatory.
Originally Posted by blueskaterboy
that's right designed by a chinese guy!
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Originally Posted by adam c
"Thats right designed by a ___________ guy" Fill in the blank. Chinese, White, Black, Japanese, Hawaiian, German ........... it doesn't matter. It wasn't racist or derogatory. Would you have felt insulted if this referred to your nationality or ethnic background?
That's a statement which has no negative connotations regarding race. It can't be misunderstood or misinterpreted. The use of "Chinese guy" is insulting and demeaning. To me it says "he wasn't important enough to refer to by name, so I'm just going to use an ambiguous descriptor like race".
Regardless, this debate is over. I really don't expect you to understand, so why don't you spend another 100 hours analyzing your intake or something, you "Ram Air guy".
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Originally Posted by blueskaterboy
i could care less what race someone is. but you have to admit that color is one of the easiest ways to identify someone.
and we all know about the reputation of non-japanese asian cars...
btw - my parents are from taiwan.
anyway i just saw the rx-01 top gear video. that and the prototype pictures of the FD scare me A LOT. i really do hope if they make an FE, that its not disgusting.
and we all know about the reputation of non-japanese asian cars...
btw - my parents are from taiwan.
anyway i just saw the rx-01 top gear video. that and the prototype pictures of the FD scare me A LOT. i really do hope if they make an FE, that its not disgusting.
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Originally Posted by adam c
You are not the only one. The other day, a red FD was coming toward me on the other side of the freeway. I thought it must be a Probe, as I never see FD's around here. I was surprised when it turned out to be an FD
To me, there aren't any cars that look like a 3rd gen FD. Although, the body of the current Miata and front of the C5 have some slight resemblance. Would be cool if the 3rd gen FD designer, designed the next gen FD. Wonder if it will be an evolution of the 3rd gen or if he would go with a new design altogether?
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I also mistake probe's for fd's and fd's for probes!
I have always found it interesting where cars were designed and by whom. Many British roadsters in the 60's and 70's were designed by Italians or Germans. Go figure...
And I didn't pick up any racism from "Chinese guy".
Just Jimlab refining his e-arguement skills I guess
I have always found it interesting where cars were designed and by whom. Many British roadsters in the 60's and 70's were designed by Italians or Germans. Go figure...
And I didn't pick up any racism from "Chinese guy".
Just Jimlab refining his e-arguement skills I guess
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Originally Posted by jimlab
The articles that were linked to supplied the designer's NAME. From that point on, it would have been appropriate to refer to him BY NAME. There was no need to make ANY comment about his RACE after that point. The only appropriate statement mentioning his race would have been something like "Wow, isn't it ironic that the designer of the FD was Chinese?"
That's a statement which has no negative connotations regarding race. It can't be misunderstood or misinterpreted. The use of "Chinese guy" is insulting and demeaning. To me it says "he wasn't important enough to refer to by name, so I'm just going to use an ambiguous descriptor like race".
Regardless, this debate is over. I really don't expect you to understand, so why don't you spend another 100 hours analyzing your intake or something, you "Ram Air guy".
That's a statement which has no negative connotations regarding race. It can't be misunderstood or misinterpreted. The use of "Chinese guy" is insulting and demeaning. To me it says "he wasn't important enough to refer to by name, so I'm just going to use an ambiguous descriptor like race".
Regardless, this debate is over. I really don't expect you to understand, so why don't you spend another 100 hours analyzing your intake or something, you "Ram Air guy".
Maybe the debate isn't over just because you say it is.
BTW, I'm not "Ram Air guy". That would be ZB. You could call me "Cheap Bastard guy", or "Airbox Mod guy". Either way, I won't be offended.
Now, what shall we call you................